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Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« on: October 31, 2014, 11:17:40 AM »
Our pro Shop Owner, Steve Mullan has just had his lease cancelled by Bowlmor/AMF in all 3 of his Virginia Pro Shops.  I believe Bowmor is bringing in their own pro shops.  Sucks, especially since all 3 of Steve's Pro shops were very successful.  Richmond, Fredericksburg, and Charlottesville all given 30 days to vacate.
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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2014, 11:30:57 AM »
Bowl New England did the same thing but for a different reason. They wanted the space in order to expand their recreational environment (more video games) and NO pro shop.
They figured the space was more profitable as recreation then from the rent of the pro shop.
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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2014, 11:44:16 AM »
Bowlmor house I bowl at doesn't have a proshop any longer and the space where the shop and the lockers were located is now a game room area. With some video games, pool table, and stuff animal thing.

If all Bowlmor centers will no longer have a proshop, it'll suck really bad for those who have no access to shops in their area. Owners will have to work out of their garage or rent a place in a strip mall......sad

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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2014, 02:17:49 PM »
They kicked out the shop that my driller had for 20+ years.  Even worse, it was a very high-volume pro shop as well.  But Bowlmor/AMF gave her an insane increase of $20k/month in rent and she basically told them to go do something to themselves.

Since that point, she moved her shop to an independent bowling center only a few miles away that still does high-volume.  Word of mouth reputation helps and she kept almost all customers with the move.
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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2014, 03:14:38 PM »
They kicked out the shop that my driller had for 20+ years.  Even worse, it was a very high-volume pro shop as well.  But Bowlmor/AMF gave her an insane increase of $20k/month in rent and she basically told them to go do something to themselves.

Since that point, she moved her shop to an independent bowling center only a few miles away that still does high-volume.  Word of mouth reputation helps and she kept almost all customers with the move.

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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2014, 03:26:02 PM »
There were plenty of choice words.  Even worse for Bowlmor/AMF, this is a 60 lane house that has been featured over the years in several PBA tournaments shown on TV.  On top of that, they were trying to keep machinery and inventory that she purchased without funds used by Bowlmor/AMF.  Needless to say, she cleaned house with the shop at the end of that month and relocated to a smaller 36 lane place only about 2-3 miles away that sees its share of tournaments locally and isn't having those problems anymore.

The people that replaced her shop are a complete joke.  They're now using a junior coach who I actually heard say "Umm...this will work really well."  When questioned on cover, and the technical stuff, the coach had absolutely no clue and was just trying to sell a ball.  Sad thing is that I actually talked to the person when the guy left the counter and went over everything and steered them to the person that drills my stuff at the new shop. 

Big difference from someone who would take you on the lanes, see your game, give you 2 or 3 recommendations based on what was seen, specific layout information, and then watch to see if any adjustments needed to be made with a weight hole or surface.  And they wonder why there was a huge exodus of customers that went to the smaller 36 lane place.  Word of mouth and a good reputation go a long way.
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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2014, 03:31:02 PM »
There were plenty of choice words.  Even worse for Bowlmor/AMF, this is a 60 lane house that has been featured over the years in several PBA tournaments shown on TV.  On top of that, they were trying to keep machinery and inventory that she purchased without funds used by Bowlmor/AMF.  Needless to say, she cleaned house with the shop at the end of that month and relocated to a smaller 36 lane place only about 2-3 miles away that sees its share of tournaments locally and isn't having those problems anymore.

The people that replaced her shop are a complete joke.  They're now using a junior coach who I actually heard say "Umm...this will work really well."  When questioned on cover, and the technical stuff, the coach had absolutely no clue and was just trying to sell a ball.  Sad thing is that I actually talked to the person when the guy left the counter and went over everything and steered them to the person that drills my stuff at the new shop. 

Big difference from someone who would take you on the lanes, see your game, give you 2 or 3 recommendations based on what was seen, specific layout information, and then watch to see if any adjustments needed to be made with a weight hole or surface.  And they wonder why there was a huge exodus of customers that went to the smaller 36 lane place.  Word of mouth and a good reputation go a long way.

This wouldn't happen to be in the Buffalo, NY area, would it?

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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2014, 03:38:39 PM »
Yes it would be.  Rumor has it that Benderson may buy out the building to add additional retail.
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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2014, 03:41:06 PM »
There were plenty of choice words.  Even worse for Bowlmor/AMF, this is a 60 lane house that has been featured over the years in several PBA tournaments shown on TV.  On top of that, they were trying to keep machinery and inventory that she purchased without funds used by Bowlmor/AMF.  Needless to say, she cleaned house with the shop at the end of that month and relocated to a smaller 36 lane place only about 2-3 miles away that sees its share of tournaments locally and isn't having those problems anymore.

The people that replaced her shop are a complete joke.  They're now using a junior coach who I actually heard say "Umm...this will work really well."  When questioned on cover, and the technical stuff, the coach had absolutely no clue and was just trying to sell a ball.  Sad thing is that I actually talked to the person when the guy left the counter and went over everything and steered them to the person that drills my stuff at the new shop. 

Big difference from someone who would take you on the lanes, see your game, give you 2 or 3 recommendations based on what was seen, specific layout information, and then watch to see if any adjustments needed to be made with a weight hole or surface.  And they wonder why there was a huge exodus of customers that went to the smaller 36 lane place.  Word of mouth and a good reputation go a long way.

This wouldn't happen to be in the Buffalo, NY area, would it?

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It sure does sound like Sue's shop....Hmmmm....and there is now a new independent shop at another AMF in the "Buffalo airport" area. But that shop has others , and heve a great knowledgeable staff.
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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2014, 03:55:49 PM »
That would be AMF Airport, which replaced the prior independent shop with National Bowling Store.  That place does have a good staff, including Ryan Ciminelli.  AMF Thruway is where Sue had her shop which moved to Broadway Sports Center.
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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2014, 04:10:16 PM »
They kicked out the shop that my driller had for 20+ years.  Even worse, it was a very high-volume pro shop as well.  But Bowlmor/AMF gave her an insane increase of $20k/month in rent and she basically told them to go do something to themselves.

Since that point, she moved her shop to an independent bowling center only a few miles away that still does high-volume.  Word of mouth reputation helps and she kept almost all customers with the move.

$20k in rent? I would've given who ever told me that a bag of dildos and some choice words.

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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2014, 04:22:48 PM »
They kicked out the shop that my driller had for 20+ years.  Even worse, it was a very high-volume pro shop as well.  But Bowlmor/AMF gave her an insane increase of $20k/month in rent and she basically told them to go do something to themselves.

Since that point, she moved her shop to an independent bowling center only a few miles away that still does high-volume.  Word of mouth reputation helps and she kept almost all customers with the move.

$20k in rent? I would've given who ever told me that a bag of dildos and some choice words.

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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2014, 04:54:48 PM »
That would be AMF Airport, which replaced the prior independent shop with National Bowling Store.  That place does have a good staff, including Ryan Ciminelli.  AMF Thruway is where Sue had her shop which moved to Broadway Sports Center.

I thought this sounded familiar. I was talking to her this summer when we were up there for youth open.  She was telling the tale to owner of BowlerX. Nice little set up where she's at now. Little being the operative word, but it didn't take a long time to figure out she was the goods. Hope she continues to do well.
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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2014, 06:18:01 PM »
That would be AMF Airport, which replaced the prior independent shop with National Bowling Store.  That place does have a good staff, including Ryan Ciminelli.  AMF Thruway is where Sue had her shop which moved to Broadway Sports Center.

I thought this sounded familiar. I was talking to her this summer when we were up there for youth open.  She was telling the tale to owner of BowlerX. Nice little set up where she's at now. Little being the operative word, but it didn't take a long time to figure out she was the goods. Hope she continues to do well.

That is exactly who I was thinking of and wondering if it was her. Sue is one of the best out there, and I'd trust anything she says. I'm glad she has another spot, ans should definitely do well, especially if Ryan and Liz are there.

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Re: Bowlmor/AMF kicking out Independent Pro Shops
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2014, 09:32:59 PM »
Liz is over at Broadway Sports a lot and actually have gotten to talk with her several times.  Great person.  Ryan is at AMF Airport but also bowls in league Tuesday nights over at The Edge Bowling (a 12 lane wood house that Sue's family bought a while back).  Tuesday nights are when they use PBA patterns and Ciminelli shot 300 on Badger a few weeks back.
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