Quote from: Eddie M on June 16, 2017, 06:54:02 PM"Keeps the pins low"Completely BS term. Every ball hits every pin at the same height. Pins don't magically shoot up in the air or stay low because of your core/cover combination.Sorry to disagree, but yes, they do. Mostly it's milder balls that do not throw the pins with massive force; they seem to keep the pins low because they hit less hard. BUT nevertheless, they seem to move the pins enough so they fall quite well. The old Visionary Blue/Green Centaur is an example of that.When it hits the pins, it barely seems to touch them and they fall as if they can't get out of the way fast enough. Its hit is nothing like the really strong balls, Locks and No Rules; yet the pins fall with surprising efficiency. I cannot say that I know why this happens; it just does. This is the result of watching this ball do this for almost 15 years now.
"Keeps the pins low"Completely BS term. Every ball hits every pin at the same height. Pins don't magically shoot up in the air or stay low because of your core/cover combination.
Quote from: charlest on June 15, 2017, 07:37:43 PM"But that hit the pocket"when they leave a 5-7 or an 8-10 or a 4 pin or weak 10 pin.How could I forget this? Some people think it's their god given right to strike because they hit the pocket.
"But that hit the pocket"when they leave a 5-7 or an 8-10 or a 4 pin or weak 10 pin.
Quote from: charlest on June 16, 2017, 07:03:35 PMQuote from: Eddie M on June 16, 2017, 06:54:02 PM"Keeps the pins low"Completely BS term. Every ball hits every pin at the same height. Pins don't magically shoot up in the air or stay low because of your core/cover combination.Sorry to disagree, but yes, they do. Mostly it's milder balls that do not throw the pins with massive force; they seem to keep the pins low because they hit less hard. BUT nevertheless, they seem to move the pins enough so they fall quite well. The old Visionary Blue/Green Centaur is an example of that.When it hits the pins, it barely seems to touch them and they fall as if they can't get out of the way fast enough. Its hit is nothing like the really strong balls, Locks and No Rules; yet the pins fall with surprising efficiency. I cannot say that I know why this happens; it just does. This is the result of watching this ball do this for almost 15 years now. I'll just quote Mo Pinel... "The balls doesn't keep the pins low; GRAVITY DOES!!! The rest is BULL PUCKY!!!!!"
Quote from: Eddie M on June 16, 2017, 07:11:26 PMQuote from: charlest on June 16, 2017, 07:03:35 PMQuote from: Eddie M on June 16, 2017, 06:54:02 PM"Keeps the pins low"Completely BS term. Every ball hits every pin at the same height. Pins don't magically shoot up in the air or stay low because of your core/cover combination.Sorry to disagree, but yes, they do. Mostly it's milder balls that do not throw the pins with massive force; they seem to keep the pins low because they hit less hard. BUT nevertheless, they seem to move the pins enough so they fall quite well. The old Visionary Blue/Green Centaur is an example of that.When it hits the pins, it barely seems to touch them and they fall as if they can't get out of the way fast enough. Its hit is nothing like the really strong balls, Locks and No Rules; yet the pins fall with surprising efficiency. I cannot say that I know why this happens; it just does. This is the result of watching this ball do this for almost 15 years now. I'll just quote Mo Pinel... "The balls doesn't keep the pins low; GRAVITY DOES!!! The rest is BULL PUCKY!!!!!"But then Pinel is an a**hole, in any case. I'll take my 15 years of observation over that drunken arrogant fool any day.
Quote from: charlest on June 16, 2017, 07:44:42 PMQuote from: Eddie M on June 16, 2017, 07:11:26 PMQuote from: charlest on June 16, 2017, 07:03:35 PMQuote from: Eddie M on June 16, 2017, 06:54:02 PM"Keeps the pins low"Completely BS term. Every ball hits every pin at the same height. Pins don't magically shoot up in the air or stay low because of your core/cover combination.Sorry to disagree, but yes, they do. Mostly it's milder balls that do not throw the pins with massive force; they seem to keep the pins low because they hit less hard. BUT nevertheless, they seem to move the pins enough so they fall quite well. The old Visionary Blue/Green Centaur is an example of that.When it hits the pins, it barely seems to touch them and they fall as if they can't get out of the way fast enough. Its hit is nothing like the really strong balls, Locks and No Rules; yet the pins fall with surprising efficiency. I cannot say that I know why this happens; it just does. This is the result of watching this ball do this for almost 15 years now. I'll just quote Mo Pinel... "The balls doesn't keep the pins low; GRAVITY DOES!!! The rest is BULL PUCKY!!!!!"But then Pinel is an a**hole, in any case. I'll take my 15 years of observation over that drunken arrogant fool any day.I'll concur on this one. Smart ball designer, yes. Anything more, no.
Mo is great…… but it depends on if he is informative Mo or salesman Mo. The line stays blurred to the point it's sad.
My least favorite buzz words, in no particular order (I hope I don't come across as too much of a grump )<grump>Mop - In no other hobby/sport do house cleaning items become nicknamesPill - Someone else said this, and I 100% agree. People who say this should take a few doses of nopeAlmost every coverstock name I've ever seen - In the grand scheme of things, how much more aggressive have coverstocks gotten in the last 10 years? Sure, probably a board or two, but to me it's all marketing bullshit and that hurts the bowlers because now we have no clue how much more aggressive one coverstock is vs. the next. I like Global's numbering system for covers - it's simple, and relative. Like Albert Einstein.</grump>
Thank you great lefties on my pair for blending out the extreme wet/dry I often face for 2 1/2 games of a 3 game set.
It is about an old particle ball hit with polish with the intention of solving side to side wet/dry the version I see with harsh side to side barriers and bounce area.
Around our area the smooth and weakish Match Pearl has really shined on our Super Extreme side to side Wet dry.. Stronger covers like the Punch out leap off this sameharsh wet dry like encountering Cement!
Picked up these two older pieces and finally got to roll.Looking forward to compare to my never miss 1960s rubber ball on my local wet dry!
While I am a fan of my Pancake rubber ball which I can pour into the pocket like slow Syrup ball after ball after ball on my local harsh harsh wet dry house shot. Anyone tried a Scout reactive Solid on an extreme wet dry house shot here?
So yesterday I had a frustrating carry day with my can't miss Rubber orb, on my harsh wet dry fresh shot!
