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Richlynn27

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oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« on: November 07, 2017, 09:06:32 PM »
After a game and 3 frames, Our lanes broke down and we had to be moved.  The lanes we were moved to were open bowled on all day and not oiled for leagues.  I asked at the desk if they could oil the lanes, and they were. No one one either team involved  objected, nor did anyone in the league complain at the time.  After the league was over the president of my league text me and very rudely said I had no right to request these lanes to be oiled ( He was not present at the time.)  Evidently someone complained.   Was I in the wrong to get the lanes oiled with the same shot put down for the league???  OMG it was a frigin mixed league!!!!!!
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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2017, 09:44:51 PM »
You can request anything you want, it was up to the league and the house to approve and grant the request. Tell the president to take it up with whoever approved the request and not you.

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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2017, 10:54:45 PM »
Wow why would anyone ever think league is a hassle?
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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 01:02:41 AM »

Why would the house ONLY oil the league lanes?  Why not an extra pair or two, in the event teams need to be moved?  Kind of short-sighted in my opinion.

After all, the machine is out, the mechanic is out, the cost of oiling an extra pair is nearly nothing.  However, if the machine is put away and the mechanic has to be pulled off another job, such as repairing pinsetters, then labor costs are increased a little.


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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 08:44:04 AM »
We have 40 Lanes. There are a couple of nights with one or two pairs open. We always oil them all. If for some reason we had open bowling on a pair that we needed to move to and the request was to dress the lanes again we would.
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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 08:48:12 AM »
Our house always has a breakdown pair which is freshly oiled.  Moving to a fresh shot isn't always necessarily a good thing either as most of the time you have to get re-lined up on the new pair.  People just want something to complain about is what it amounts to. 
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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 08:55:38 AM »
Would have told him to f*ck off that you have every right to request the new pair be oiled with the same pattern as the rest of the league. House should always have a breakdown pair ready to go and oiled with the rest of the league pairs. Someone with a little power and a little d*ck had to get involved it sounds like.
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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 09:13:47 AM »
Well and that's one of those situations too where if anybody else in the league would have been forced to bowl on a destroyed shot, they'd have been screaming too. 

Would have told him to f*ck off that you have every right to request the new pair be oiled with the same pattern as the rest of the league. House should always have a breakdown pair ready to go and oiled with the rest of the league pairs. Someone with a little power and a little d*ck had to get involved it sounds like.
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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2017, 09:56:21 AM »
Well and that's one of those situations too where if anybody else in the league would have been forced to bowl on a destroyed shot, they'd have been screaming too. 

Would have told him to f*ck off that you have every right to request the new pair be oiled with the same pattern as the rest of the league. House should always have a breakdown pair ready to go and oiled with the rest of the league pairs. Someone with a little power and a little d*ck had to get involved it sounds like.

Right. I already don't like the concept of changing pairs without some practice when you're the only ones in the league that has to do it, so at least start it fresh.
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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2017, 10:41:14 AM »

Why would the house ONLY oil the league lanes?  Why not an extra pair or two, in the event teams need to be moved?  Kind of short-sighted in my opinion.

After all, the machine is out, the mechanic is out, the cost of oiling an extra pair is nearly nothing.  However, if the machine is put away and the mechanic has to be pulled off another job, such as repairing pinsetters, then labor costs are increased a little.



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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2017, 01:21:08 PM »
I think every house/league is different in how they would handle the OP's situation.  My team was pre-bowling last season and instead of bowling unopposed we got paired up with another team (not the team we were bowling against).  This added extra time and we couldn't finish on those lanes (league coming in and they had to oil the lanes), so they moved us to another pair (not fresh oil) and gave us 5 minutes of practice and let us finish our set.  I was already fuming because of a previous problem (not getting into that), but not bowling on fresh for the original lanes and then getting moved to another used pair of lanes put me over the edge.  I called the secretary and talked with the manager and the only they said was I could file a protest if I wanted to.

IMO the OP was not wrong to request that they oil lanes, the house could have easily said no and instead given them 5 minutes of practice to figure out the lanes.

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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2017, 07:30:13 PM »
Thanks for all of your replies. I really did not feel I was out of line making that request.

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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2017, 05:05:43 AM »
 I did the same thing a few weeks back when my team was moved to a new pair after 5 frames. I made them oil the new pair. Usually our league has a breakdown pair but on this night they were not oiled.

USBC rules do state that league officers can
authorize the game and series to be completed on another pair of certified lanes. So if they move you reoiling would be easiest solution to make sure they are certified or you have the option of finishing on one lane if a pair is not available. League president could of solved this complaint without getting you involved by just telling the complainant lane had to be oiled to be certified.
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Re: oiling of lanes when original pair is broke down
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2017, 09:27:42 AM »
League president could of solved this complaint without getting you involved by just telling the complainant lane had to be oiled to be certified.

The lanes didn't have to be oiled to be certified, being a certified house they already are certified for league play.

While the the L.Pres. could have just told the complainant that to placate them, it could cause problems later on.

Because if teams have to move or had had to move in the past and the lanes aren't oiled or had not been oiled in the past.

People could complain that those games don't count because they were on uncertified lanes, because the L.Pres. said the lanes had to be oiled to be certified.

In the OP's situation nothing was particularly done wrong.

The OP's team and their opponent made a request and it was granted. If the L.Pres. had a problem with it, he should take it up with whoever granted the request.

As for the person that complained, while they might not like it. It has no bearing on the conditions that they (the complainer) are playing.

Because as long as the two teams (playing head to head) are bowling on the same pair, it doesn't matter if they are used or not or what the conditions on the other lanes are it's considered fair competition.

Look at this way, if the lanes hadn't been oiled and they proceeded to shoot 300's or 800's someone would probably complain about how they should have been oiled like the league lanes were..

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