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storybook123

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Fast Trail leg
on: July 17, 2017, 06:05:15 AM
I have a problem with me swinging my trail leg too fast, which causes me to actually pull the ball. I know I need to slow down my feet, what tips do you guys do to help keep your feet slow or make your trail leg have a smooth transition behind you so you dont jerk your whole body. TIA.

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Re: Fast Trail leg
Reply #1 on: July 17, 2017, 11:46:55 AM
it would be really helpful if you can post a video so the guys on here can see what exactly you are doing.

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Re: Fast Trail leg
Reply #2 on: July 17, 2017, 12:04:01 PM
I can definitely get one to put up here, I wasn't sure if one was needed. I know when I do it, I can hear my trail leg squeaking like the noise on a basketball court.

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Re: Fast Trail leg
Reply #3 on: July 17, 2017, 12:14:21 PM
A video would help, but for what it's worth....  When my timing gets out of whack and my feet start moving to fast I move up on the approach and shorten my steps and make sure I don't start dropping the ball into my downswing until after my second step has started.  I have a five step approach.  I purposely throw it a little slower than usual just so I can get a good delivery and hit my intended mark.  After timing gets sorted out I'll gradually increase to normal ball speed.

What usually starts getting my timing out of whack is when I'm fighting a tough lane condition.  I get frustrated and start slowly moving back on the approach and lengthening my steps trying to add speed and overpower the lane.  It rarely works lol.  I bowl in two houses, one with tough over under THS conditions and the other house is an easy forgiving THS.  I have to make a mental note to not carry over bad habits from the bad house to the easy house.
Last Edit: July 17, 2017, 12:49:14 PM by rocky61201
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Re: Fast Trail leg
Reply #4 on: July 17, 2017, 01:30:21 PM
"Timing" is very individualized. 

The "pace" of the arm swing and the "pace" of the feet should match.  If you have a free (faster) arm swing and slow feet you'll struggle to repeat shots, and the opposite (slower arm swing, fast feet) is also true. 

The free, un-muscled arm swing is generally something to strive for.  If you subscribe to that theory, then slightly faster footwork will help you rather than hinder your ability to repeat shots.  Fred Borden used to teach that "motion is power" and personally, I do believe that most people are better off being "fluid" and slightly faster in order to tap into their own athletic ability. 

Pulling the ball left can be a symptom of other things.  Just my .02.


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Re: Fast Trail leg
Reply #5 on: July 17, 2017, 02:07:01 PM
"Timing" is very individualized. 

The "pace" of the arm swing and the "pace" of the feet should match.  If you have a free (faster) arm swing and slow feet you'll struggle to repeat shots, and the opposite (slower arm swing, fast feet) is also true. 

The free, un-muscled arm swing is generally something to strive for.  If you subscribe to that theory, then slightly faster footwork will help you rather than hinder your ability to repeat shots.  Fred Borden used to teach that "motion is power" and personally, I do believe that most people are better off being "fluid" and slightly faster in order to tap into their own athletic ability. 

Pulling the ball left can be a symptom of other things.  Just my .02.


what I have noticed is my trail legs swings fast so it jerks my body to the right more which makes me throw the ball more towards the gutter than my intended line. I am going to try and get a video after I am out of work.

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Re: Fast Trail leg
Reply #6 on: July 17, 2017, 02:27:07 PM
Notclay hit the nail on the head. A free, unimpeded armswing will get the feet going a little faster but gravity swings the ball pretty fast too. For bowlers who muscle the ball excessively, freeing up the swing takes a little trust and "courage" but once your muscle memory hard -wires it, a free swing is the way to go. You will become much more consistent shot after shot. Again though, without a video of your approach, it is difficult to pinpoint for sure what exactly is causing your flying trail leg.

A very common error I notice with a lot of bowlers is their tendency to rush the downswing as they are entering their slide step. Many good bowlers
will often pull the ball down from the top of their backswing instead of waiting for gravity to allow the ball to descend . This alone, will often result in an off-balanced delivery. I believe it was the great Carmen Salvino who said it best (about pulling down on the ball). He said that when a bowler pulls down (using muscle) on the ball, what they are really doing is attempting to bowl before it's TIME to bowl.

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Re: Fast Trail leg
Reply #7 on: July 17, 2017, 03:11:24 PM
Bowlers need to realize that feet are NEVER fast as they are stabilizers for the upper body and the swinging of the bowling ball, which is dictating motion...if you perceive your feet to be fast this generally translates to the weight of the ball is in the improper position of the swing sequence, causing the feet to rush to stabilize the upper body
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Re: Fast Trail leg
Reply #8 on: July 17, 2017, 03:27:04 PM
Nice.