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CincyBowler82

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Good ball for a dry house shot
« on: March 02, 2015, 10:35:51 AM »
So I started a new league this year at a local house. The lanes are pretty dry compared to other leagues I've been in. It was suggested by someone I know well in bowling to pick up the Arson Low Flare Solid for a dryer shot. So I bought it. I told the guy at the pro-shop I needed it to be non-aggressive so it won't hook that much on a dry shot. This is the pro-shop in the bowling alley I am bowling at so he knows how dry the lanes are. He drilled it with the pin centered above the fingers. I threw it on that shot and can't seem to keep it on the lane. I rev it quite a bit but my speed only stays around 15-15.50. So I'm about average or just below in speed. So I actually resorted back to my old Storm Eraser and I'm hitting the shot quite well. The problem is, the Eraser is old as dirt and has been resurfaced many times. I really need to find a ball that will react the same. I'm standing about 25 and throwing it around 16. It's hitting out to about 10 and coming up nicely. Anyone recommend a ball that would react about the same? I've considered the Storm Pitch Black but I don't want to buy another ball that isn't going to work for me. Any suggestions? Any make is ok with me honestly. I've always bowled better with Storm products but I'm not committed to Storm by any means. Thanks guys!
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2015, 05:26:03 PM »
Get yourself a urethane ball. Don't get it with the expectation that it will be a hook monster on the lanes. If your able get yourself a ball made in the 90"s get it. Those balls create a lot more friction on the lanes. They tend to start up earlier. As opposed to the newer urethanes that look like pearls that will skid down the lane further than what you are expecting. The older balls will be much easier to surface to your liking. I purchased a couple of New vintage Columbia Sting Rays 9 years ago. Like you I am rev dominant. It is the first ball out of the bag and pretty much of the time the ball I finish with. The  first one out is 500 grit green pad surface no weight hole for lanes with some oil to 36". The second is polished to 1200 with weight hole on super dry backends.
If your stuck on storm stuff look for an old Dark Thunder. It's a resin urethane blend way too strong for me on dry.
Or look for a discontinued Motiv Tank on EBAY. Good strong ball on dry lanes until the carry down makes you move
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2015, 06:55:58 PM »
Quote from: Ratt_bowling on March 14, 2015, 04:49:38 PM
I did test a Super Natural this afternoon, and it allowed to me stand where I wanted on a dry lane but it had very little power. 

Ah, a dangerous word, "wanted".
If I might suggest, you should stand where you need to stand, not where you want to stand. The oil pattern and the lane surface determine where your style needs you to stand.
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2015, 07:34:29 PM »
Sorry cincybowler82 was not ginkinht htiw ftel niarb mentality. Go buy yourself a new Storm Crux Pearl and stand left gutter cap and launch to 10 board. I forget that ftel niarb gnikniht is to combat the lanes with harder hooking balls when they are drier. Or change hand position. Or play where there is less traffic on the lanes that dictates using the same ball with less hand or a lesser hook potential ball that can achieve the same entry angle from a lesser used part of the lane. Stand where you are comfortable and hcnual.
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2015, 09:04:04 PM »
I meant I was standing at my usual starting spot when the oil is fresh and before I would have to move left.  I'm okay going left two at a time until I reach about 10 then I want to go back with a weaker ball.  The SN let me stand in the same spot and hit the pocket solid when the lanes were now dry.  It just didn't have much power with a solid hit.  I experimented some and that was definitely the right place to stand and throw to.  I'm working on it.  Obviously it a big challenge for me. 
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2015, 10:00:30 PM »
Sorry wasn't trying to be mean. Try knocking off some cover from the SN to a lower grit below stock then repolish to get some of the pop from the back end.

 I've had a few friends whom have had surgeries to repair their right wrists and left knees because of the way they bowled. Yes they were touring pros who are not able to participate at that level or even as regional players. One of whom had switched to bowl left handed and released the ball the as he had with right hand. Bad for him. Surgery to repair left wrist and no longer bowling.
It had been at their insistence to be competitive to use stronger equipment when the shot gets burned to move more left throw it harder. I see the same with league scratch bowlers burning up the shot so quick inside they can't even put up a decent 3rd game.
Food for thought. Over the last 15yrs. there has been maybe 4 pros with 15 or more tour wins. Walter Ray Williams 21 regular tour, Norm Duke with 17 regular tour titles Chris Barnes 15 and Poor Mika at 15. All three can grip it n rip it. Play straighter is greater. And still be consistent inside or outside the shot of other players.
Good Luck play smarter not harder
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2015, 11:53:52 AM »
If you use 16 pound equipment look into the visionary Blue/Green Centaur. Bowlerscellar.com was just selling nib 16lbers on ebay for $75.00....they don't list it on their website, but they listed them on ebay which recently ended and they haven't relisted yet...check with them.....Although back when I had the ball it wasn't the right match for me, several Posters here....Namely Charlest and Scotts33 will swear by the ball on lighter drier conditions. One thing I remember well about the ball was that it did hit extremely hard.

Brad
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2015, 08:31:51 PM »
Quote from: bcw1969 on March 15, 2015, 11:53:52 AM
If you use 16 pound equipment look into the visionary Blue/Green Centaur. Bowlerscellar.com was just selling nib 16lbers on ebay for $75.00....they don't list it on their website, but they listed them on ebay which recently ended and they haven't relisted yet...check with them.....Although back when I had the ball it wasn't the right match for me, several Posters here....Namely Charlest and Scotts33 will swear by the ball on lighter drier conditions. One thing I remember well about the ball was that it did hit extremely hard.

Brad

For those that know the Arson Low Flare; the BG Centaur will roll pretty similar to that though the cover may not be quite as strong.  But it will be close.  Out of the box is rolls very even.  However; if it has polish; it will become more angular on the backend if you have decent rev rate.  The cover on the Centaur is fairly strong.  So if the backends are pretty fresh, especially on a higher friction surface, the ball can pop a little.  It wont be a true skid/flip ball.  But it can have some pop.
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2015, 11:46:22 AM »
Well I picked up a SD Super Natural for $40 from a local bowler. I took it today to have the thumb hole plugged and redrilled. It was a tad off for me. Took it down to Hitt's Pro Shop near Walt's in Newport. Josh was very helpful. If this ball doesn't work out, he wants me to come back and let him see me throw so he can suggest some equipment for me.
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #54 on: March 19, 2015, 10:04:45 PM »
Well, first night with the Super Natural and shot a 698. Can't complain. I like it so far!
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #55 on: March 20, 2015, 10:49:19 AM »
Quote from: CincyBowler82 on March 19, 2015, 10:04:45 PM
Well, first night with the Super Natural and shot a 698. Can't complain. I like it so far!

Great news my friend!  Glad to hear that you had success with it.  Hopefully it will continue.
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #56 on: March 20, 2015, 12:56:49 PM »
I should have shot higher but the first game I was doing a lot of adjusting and getting used to how the ball was reacting. I only had a 207 first game. Came back the next 2 with 240 something, 240 something. I got used to it really quick.
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2015, 07:56:46 PM »
Bowlerscellar.com just relisted the Blue/green Centaur on ebay $75.00  ...  They only have 16, buts if that's your weight here's a very hard hitting light oil ball.

Brad
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