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Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« on: July 25, 2017, 08:02:56 PM »
One of the new USBC rule changes for 2017-2018 season is leagues can now cap handicap scores.

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5. A handicap game or series shall not be capped unless otherwise provided by league rule. If a league adopts such a rule, a game or series cannot be capped below the highest possible scratch score.
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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2017, 10:37:15 PM »
Seems like that would go without saying. Apparently not.
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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2017, 04:27:46 AM »
Seems like that would go without saying. Apparently not.

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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2017, 07:23:16 AM »
I guess a bunch of scratch bowlers got upset they couldn't win scratch AND handicap awards. 

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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2017, 07:39:21 AM »
Seems like that would go without saying. Apparently not.

Why would that go without saying?
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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2017, 09:33:15 AM »
Handicap scores should never have been allowed to go over the maximum scratch score. It makes no sense, yet you see it all the time. That should actually be a rule.

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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2017, 09:39:02 AM »
Seems like that would go without saying. Apparently not.

Why would that go without saying?


Because if high games and series are set at (imaginary) numbers that scratch bowlers can't reach why would they bowl?

If it's a tournament where leading singles score for 3 games is 907 and you have 0 handicap you have zero chance to win.  If capped at 900, you have a .0000001% to at least tie.

Or if high game is 317 etc.

It will depend on the league or tournament.
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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2017, 11:54:01 AM »
Handicap should be capped at max 300 a game. Give scratch bowlers a chance if bowling against someone else playing the game of their life

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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2017, 12:04:39 PM »
Seems like that would go without saying. Apparently not.

Why would that go without saying?


Because if high games and series are set at (imaginary) numbers that scratch bowlers can't reach why would they bowl?

If it's a tournament where leading singles score for 3 games is 907 and you have 0 handicap you have zero chance to win.  If capped at 900, you have a .0000001% to at least tie.

Or if high game is 317 etc.

It will depend on the league or tournament.

Which is why they put this rule in, so there was a option to set a limit on handicap scores if a league so chose because there wasn't one before.



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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2017, 12:07:31 PM »
Why not cap it at 299?  A perfect score of 300 should only be had with a perfect 12 strikes in a row. 
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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2017, 12:27:44 PM »
This rule doesn't do anything different than before.  Leagues could have capped the scores before or let them run as high as they liked.  This rule simply identifies a situation seen in leagues.  It does zero regulating.

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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2017, 01:28:13 PM »
I don't have a big opinion on this. In my mind I've always felt felt it should be capped at 300 since that's the highest score score anyone can get

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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2017, 01:31:34 PM »
I would agree with this rule, you shouldn't be able to go above the max score possible. For example this is from a very popular tournament and the leader with handicap score is above max score.

MEN’S SINGLES:
1 ED SOBLESKIE - MILTON, FL – 916 (PENDING)
2 KEVIN RORKE - BELLE VERNON, PA – 892 (PENDING)
3 RONALD SUAZON - COURTICE, ONT - 866
4 CHAD NOLAN - NORWOOD, ONT - 857
5 JASON BEAUDOIN - OMEMEE, ONT - 854
6 RONALD B MANN JR - ASHEVILLE, NC - 852

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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2017, 03:13:58 PM »
Yeah... I've lost doubles plenty of times to scores over 600. When you shoot 670 and don't even get 3rd cause the 3 highest scores are above 600, it's time to save your money

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Re: Handicap scores can be capped now (USBC rule change)
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2017, 03:56:58 PM »
I would agree with this rule, you shouldn't be able to go above the max score possible.

Just to be clear, the rule says,

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A handicap game or series shall not be capped unless otherwise provided by league rule.

So the rule is you can go over unless the league says otherwise.  So if no rule is in place, handicap scores can go over 300 or 900 (or however number of games).