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strikeordie

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hard decisions
« on: September 24, 2016, 08:44:06 AM »
With so many new releases coming out, how does one decide? I am so tempted to pull the trigger on the mission unknown. I think I am going to hold out for the columbia impulse. What will be your next ball purchase?
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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2016, 08:46:22 AM »
It's not as simple since every company is coming out with good stuff. Just got to do some research
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Impending Doom

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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2016, 09:22:17 AM »
Honestly, this is why I stick with one company's products. I've been thinking about trying some Motiv, and if I like it, I'll be switching from 900 Global (since 07) to all Motiv. When you keep it in a single product line, it's easier to choose something that they've designed for that purpose, instead of trying to cross brands and guess.

Note: Only reason I am considering a change is because I hate Storm covers, which is what the high end Global products have now.
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Steven

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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2016, 09:32:48 AM »
Quote from: strikeordie on September 24, 2016, 08:44:06 AM
With so many new releases coming out, how does one decide?

 
The most important thing is to first identify what you need. Where is the gap?
 
If you end up just buying the shiniest trinket on the shelf, all you end up with is a lot of overlap.
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AlonzoHarris

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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2016, 09:55:23 AM »
At the moment the only purchase I know is 100% happening is the Motiv Primal Fear. The Scandal Pearl and Cyborg Pearl are certainly interesting pieces though.
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Impending Doom

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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2016, 10:13:10 AM »
Quote from: AlonzoHarris on September 24, 2016, 09:55:23 AM
At the moment the only purchase I know is 100% happening is the Motiv Primal Fear. The Scandal Pearl and Cyborg Pearl are certainly interesting pieces though.

Yeah, after some consideration, I've decided to try a Tag, Shock, GT, Fear, Revolt, and Trident.
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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2016, 10:30:38 AM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on September 24, 2016, 10:13:10 AM
Quote from: AlonzoHarris on September 24, 2016, 09:55:23 AM
At the moment the only purchase I know is 100% happening is the Motiv Primal Fear. The Scandal Pearl and Cyborg Pearl are certainly interesting pieces though.

Yeah, after some consideration, I've decided to try a Tag, Shock, GT, Fear, Revolt, and Trident.

Sounds like a very good arsenal to me.
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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2016, 12:01:55 PM »
Depends on how you bowl of course.
For someone like me with few revs and with a path that is close to the holes (think that's a high axis tilt), then balls like the ones I use is good.
If you got lots of revs and an axis tilt, like one of the guys in the club, then balls like the Freakshow and such, or balls for less oil is good for you. The Freakshow didn't do much for me on the pattern I usually play on, so I'll only play with it when the oil has almost dried up :P
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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2016, 01:15:41 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on September 24, 2016, 09:22:17 AM
Honestly, this is why I stick with one company's products. I've been thinking about trying some Motiv, and if I like it, I'll be switching from 900 Global (since 07) to all Motiv. When you keep it in a single product line, it's easier to choose something that they've designed for that purpose, instead of trying to cross brands and guess.

Note: Only reason I am considering a change is because I hate Storm covers, which is what the high end Global products have now.

Good advice.  I have stuck with MOTIV for this reason.  Their Ball Guide really has helped me make choices that fit what I am needing. 
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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2016, 01:30:35 PM »
Quote from: todvan on September 24, 2016, 01:15:41 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on September 24, 2016, 09:22:17 AM
Honestly, this is why I stick with one company's products. I've been thinking about trying some Motiv, and if I like it, I'll be switching from 900 Global (since 07) to all Motiv. When you keep it in a single product line, it's easier to choose something that they've designed for that purpose, instead of trying to cross brands and guess.

Note: Only reason I am considering a change is because I hate Storm covers, which is what the high end Global products have now.

Good advice.  I have stuck with MOTIV for this reason.  Their Ball Guide really has helped me make choices that fit what I am needing.

 
There is more simplicity in staying exclusively within one line. But the flip side is that you might not be getting the best ball for a specific purpose.
 
I was exclusively Motiv up to 3 years ago. I got hooked when I threw two 300s in a row with an Ascent to win a big money sport shot tournament, and decided to go crazy with Motiv. It was a good overall line-up of balls, and I threw a couple of sanctioned 300s with different Venoms, but found other Motiv balls lacking, especially in the heavier oil category.
 
I'm not picking on Motiv in particular. I'm not sure there is any company top to bottom that has the best of breed in every category. But if you're willing to do the research and watch closely what other good bowlers are having success with, you can probably do better with a hybrid company line-up.
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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2016, 01:59:16 PM »
Well, IMO, Motiv has grown in leaps and bounds when it comes to more than one ball reaction. Like I said, I was happy with 900 Global, but their Storm influence has now turned me off. If I wanted to throw Storm, id be a Storm guy and my nibs would be of higher value. I'm not getting rid of my Global stuff (well, not all of it) but it's been 9 years exclusive with them, and it's time to try something new.
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strikeordie

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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2016, 02:07:41 PM »
I really like the venom panic and rebel tank. The forza redline was a bust for me.
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Bowlaholic

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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2016, 02:43:07 PM »
Impending Doom
If you switch to Motiv, I'm sure you won't have buyers remorse.  Motiv has a great lineup who's balls can compete with any mfg. out there.
I quit Storm/Roto for a different reason.  All my Storm/Roto balls (5) since 2013 have cracked completely around the ball.. The last one being the Crux.
I have never had a Motiv ball crack.  Good Luck to you throwing Motiv.
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Steven

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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2016, 02:59:42 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on September 24, 2016, 01:59:16 PM
Well, IMO, Motiv has grown in leaps and bounds when it comes to more than one ball reaction. Like I said, I was happy with 900 Global, but their Storm influence has now turned me off. If I wanted to throw Storm, id be a Storm guy and my nibs would be of higher value. I'm not getting rid of my Global stuff (well, not all of it) but it's been 9 years exclusive with them, and it's time to try something new.

 
I don't dispute your assessment. But for instance, if you're looking for a high performance asymmetric pearl in the Motiv line-up, you're going to come up empty. For me, I wouldn't go to a high level longer format tournament without one.  This season, I'll be carrying two -- one from Columbia and one from Radical.
 
I think it's great that you're willing to try something new, but go easy at first. If you slowly find Motiv fills all your expectations, congratulations.
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Impending Doom

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Re: hard decisions
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2016, 03:59:09 PM »
Quote from: Steven on September 24, 2016, 02:59:42 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on September 24, 2016, 01:59:16 PM
Well, IMO, Motiv has grown in leaps and bounds when it comes to more than one ball reaction. Like I said, I was happy with 900 Global, but their Storm influence has now turned me off. If I wanted to throw Storm, id be a Storm guy and my nibs would be of higher value. I'm not getting rid of my Global stuff (well, not all of it) but it's been 9 years exclusive with them, and it's time to try something new.

 
I don't dispute your assessment. But for instance, if you're looking for a high performance asymmetric pearl in the Motiv line-up, you're going to come up empty. For me, I wouldn't go to a high level longer format tournament without one.  This season, I'll be carrying two -- one from Columbia and one from Radical.
 
I think it's great that you're willing to try something new, but go easy at first. If you slowly find Motiv fills all your expectations, congratulations.

Granted, there is no high end assym pearl, but I really don't match up with them. Usually too much off the spot. Last assym pearl I matched up with was the Nuts Pearl. Network was good, but so much midlane. If I ever get to the point where I need an assym pearl, I could probably subbing another ball.
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