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machine35

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household products
« on: January 26, 2015, 06:50:36 PM »
I just bought two bowling balls from the thrift store and i was wondering was the best household product i can use to restore it or just make it clean as new?
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Re: household products
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2015, 06:58:02 PM »
Simple Green and Rubbing Alcohol works pretty well.
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Re: household products
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2015, 07:05:46 PM »
What balls? I'm curious
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Re: household products
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 12:38:23 AM »
Simple Green, alcohol and water
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Re: household products
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 11:04:16 AM »
Quote from: TDC57 on January 27, 2015, 12:38:23 AM
Simple Green, alcohol and water

yes.  33% of each will do a nice job.  Get one of your wife's old hair spray bottles.  Makes for a good cheap applicator
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Re: household products
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 02:53:41 PM »
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Re: household products
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 04:27:20 PM »
The original simple green & alcohol mix is 50/50.

Adding water isn't really needed.
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Re: household products
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 04:54:51 PM »
Quote from: Aloarjr810 on January 27, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
The original simple green & alcohol mix is 50/50.

Adding water isn't really needed.

Exactly, if you use rubbing alcohol, it usually contains a % of water already.
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Re: household products
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 06:36:23 PM »
Quote from: milorafferty on January 27, 2015, 04:54:51 PM
Quote from: Aloarjr810 on January 27, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
The original simple green & alcohol mix is 50/50.

Adding water isn't really needed.

Exactly, if you use rubbing alcohol, it usually contains a % of water already.

I've said that until I'm blue in the face. No one listens. None are so blind as those who will not see.

Simple Green, even the concentrated version,  has water in it. Rubbing/household alcohol also has water in it. Why, once you have mixed the two, add more water?? Use a greater percentage of alcohol, yes. More water, no!
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Re: household products
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2015, 06:51:56 PM »
Quote from: charlest on January 27, 2015, 06:36:23 PM
Quote from: milorafferty on January 27, 2015, 04:54:51 PM
Quote from: Aloarjr810 on January 27, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
The original simple green & alcohol mix is 50/50.

Adding water isn't really needed.

Exactly, if you use rubbing alcohol, it usually contains a % of water already.

I've said that until I'm blue in the face. No one listens. None are so blind as those who will not see.

Simple Green, even the concentrated version,  has water in it. Rubbing/household alcohol also has water in it. Why, once you have mixed the two, add more water?? Use a greater percentage of alcohol, yes. More water, no!

Yea, but common sense isn't so common here.

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Re: household products
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2015, 01:34:43 PM »
Quote from: Aloarjr810 on January 27, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
The original simple green & alcohol mix is 50/50.

Adding water isn't really needed.

Because those of us who have tried different mixtures have determined that 33% mix of each works best.  Especially when using SG concentrate, and 94% isopropyl alcohol.  I guarantee you that most of your prebottled cleaners have more water content than the above formula.

Common sense with experience.  Try it sometime. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2015, 03:48:36 PM »
As for me I am one of those of us who have tried different mixtures (probably more than most on here, except maybe charlest) and been doing it for quite awhile so I have the experience.

 Simple green has a 84% content of water, the water in the alcohol would depend on alcohol%. So just mixing those two it's mostly water and alcohol to begin with.

But if adding more water to the mix and diluting it works for someone, I won't say not to use it.

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Re: household products
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2015, 06:13:29 PM »
Are you talking Simple green already in a spray bottle or the concentrate like I am talking about.
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2015, 07:56:33 PM »
Quote from: BMFOBR on January 28, 2015, 06:13:29 PM
Are you talking Simple green already in a spray bottle or the concentrate like I am talking about.

That would be the spray bottle, But the concentrate still has water in it also (I don't have the info sheet for it to get the percentage.)

By using the water in the other mix, your diluting the alcohol a lot. that's why you have to use the higher 94% alcohol. (the alcohol helps with residue removal & evaporation)

Given if you wanted to use concentrate, you should mix the concentrate separately as per the SGC instructions first. Then use that mix to make the 50/50 mix of SG & Alcohol.


As I said if you or or anybody wants to use a different mix, that's fine.

This whole 50/50 or 1/3rd mix debate has been going on for a long time and I'm sure will continue. As long as whatever mix someone uses cleans their ball to their satisfaction that's what counts.




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Re: household products
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2015, 10:05:09 AM »
Quote from: BMFOBR on January 28, 2015, 06:13:29 PM
Are you talking Simple green already in a spray bottle or the concentrate like I am talking about.

Simple Green concentrate is 84.8% water, and the 'ready to use' version is 92.8% water. You can have fun looking at the MSDS sheets in the following link:
 
http://simplegreen.com/data-sheets/
 
Focusing on the SG concentrate, there is roughly 90% combined water and alcohol. So with your 33% SG/Water/Alcohol mix, there is a total of about 3% of some unknown degreasing agents left to get the job done.
 
For those who don't want to spend the money for superior industrial strength specific ball cleaners that can only be used before and after USBC competition, these home brews are fine. In my own years of using different solutions of SG and F409, I didn't find any miraculous difference in minor mixture percentages. Be it 33% or 50% mixes, whatever makes you feel better, go for it.   
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