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northface28

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How much do pro bowlers really make?
« on: February 27, 2015, 08:16:54 PM »
Seriously, if you aren't ALWAYS on tv, you have to be doing pretty bad out there. Even these international events, you cash for a few thousand. Factor in travel and lodging, that paltry money is gone. Not to mention, you haven't eaten yet. I admire these guys, not for their bowling prowess, but the fact they are working for peanuts and go all over the world doing so.
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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2015, 11:05:14 AM »
Without a name I will assume your numbers are exaggerated like everything else on the internet.  There are very few people that make $30-40k a year bowling while holding a regular job.

Ken De Beasto

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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2015, 12:02:34 PM »
Yea woo local amateur tournaments are where the moneys at :P

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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2015, 12:40:55 PM »
I believe tkkshop on the numbers. I also can see from looking at the money leaders how quickly it falls off. Tells you everything
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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2015, 03:08:50 PM »
 . . It has been several years since the exempt format was used on tour. 

don't players who are exempt get some kind of paycheck from the pba?
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avabob

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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2015, 11:45:29 AM »
I go back 40 plus years as a scratch bowler.  If I had a dollar for every person who asked me over the years why I didn't go on tour, I would have more money than most of the guys on tour.  There has never been a point where more than the top 5 or 10 guys were making more than a hand to mouth living.  Most of the rest were guys who managed to find a sponsor, and had not other options above minimum wage jobs.

A good friend of mine found a sponsor and went on tour in the mid 70's.  For two straight seasons he was in the top 20 money winners ( less than 30k, but not bad in those days ).  The third year he bought out his sponsors, had two bad seasons and was off the tour.  I doubt whether there are more than 15-20 guys in history who made enough throwing a bowling ball to be set for life even with endorsements.

You would need a 30 stop tour paying 100k for first in every stop to entice anyone who had any other job options to want to try to make a living with a bowling ball.  A lot of the young guys with college degrees who are bowling now can afford to try it for awhile, but sooner rather than later most will find better options to feed themselves than with a bowling ball.

Ironically, as an amateur I have been able to pursue bowling as a lucrative hobby that came close to paying for itself while I pursued a good living outside the game.  Best of all I was still able to test myself against the best in venues like the Masters anytime I wanted.   

 
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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2015, 12:15:53 PM »
It's not a living and hasn't been a living for a very long time.  There is a reason the top 10 pros are the only ones that travel outside of the US. Win or go broke.  The best thing the tour did was go with the world series and summer swing so that you could work a real job and bowl as a secondary income or hobby. Also helped give some talented folks a chance to prove they had the chops to complete but not the desire for poverty. 

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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2015, 02:39:37 AM »
The PBA, for all of its good and bad, has always been about bowlers whose talent and game is better than 98 to 99 percent of the bowling population pursuing a competitive dream -- and perhaps, mission -- of finding out just how good they are. Most do it knowing they are not likely to reap any appreciable return on investment. Yet it is a 'life' most do not understand, or have any reason to appreciate.

The same could be said for most, if not all, athletic pursuits.
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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2015, 12:22:15 PM »
I don't know personally, never will.

I know people that had their card at one time, they have told me they make more money overall through league brackets, sweepers, local tournaments that what they did on tour.

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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2015, 12:25:56 PM »
Yea after all PBA is a tournament. Not a league like football where your team pays your big o salary. On TV we see the winners or people who cashes, but when there's a winner there has to be a loser.

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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2015, 10:14:10 PM »
I will not divulge his name. He works a regular middle class job and bowls all of the major stops. He makes roughly 20-30 a Year bowling regional and national events alone. He makes another 10 bowling local amateur events. He makes double what he has spent a year, over the last 5 years. And ALL of his equipment is free and entries paid.

BJ Moore is pretty good.

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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2015, 08:01:47 AM »
I will not divulge his name. He works a regular middle class job and bowls all of the major stops. He makes roughly 20-30 a Year bowling regional and national events alone. He makes another 10 bowling local amateur events. He makes double what he has spent a year, over the last 5 years. And ALL of his equipment is free and entries paid.

BJ Moore is pretty good.
BJ doesn't quite make that much. You can look the up for yourself.

Maybe I'm wrong, but he made 10,600 at the world series (you said just under 11k), just moved to the National Staff, from the Carolina's (pretty sure that's your area...if its texas not NC, then Shawn Maldonado). 

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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2015, 09:15:58 AM »
Honestly, why is his name a big secret?  Is this an "i know and you don't nananana boo boo" moment?

Anyway, if his name has to be a secret then he's not as good as you say.  If I was good enough to pull in that much from bowling, I would want my name out there to get noticed and get sponsors and such. 

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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2015, 11:28:05 AM »
Tackett didn't make anywhere near 11k at the WSOB (and earned well over the 20-30 a year estimate you gave...., and Pickford made a show.  So that eliminates them.

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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2015, 01:28:03 PM »
This whole topic has me coming up with one question...Are we truly seeing the best bowlers in the PBA?
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Re: How much do pro bowlers really make?
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2015, 01:37:59 PM »
That is an excellent question.  I remember when I went to my first ABC nationals in 1975 just prior to nationals week.  A team mate told me that I would be shocked how many really good bowlers weren't on tour and how many mediocre guys with sponsors were.  This was back in the day when tour stops were drawing 128 entries and they had rabbit squads. 

I think the top 30 guys, give or take, are really good.  I also think there are a lot of guys you have never heard of who would be competitive out there if the money was worthwhile.