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lsf_21

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Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« on: May 15, 2018, 08:21:14 PM »
So I have a question. Our house has put what they say is Bourbon st out this summer. The shot plays super tight to me. Inside and the ball checks super early and goes through the face or Brooklyn. Anything outside of 5 and I am more likely to get 3 than get anywhere near the headpin.

I have tried urethane, weak pearl, strong pearl, weak solid. Have a terrible look with everything.

Is this really bourbon st? And if so why is this a recreational pattern?

 

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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2018, 08:27:11 PM »
The only time I've bowled on it was subbing in a 4 game scratch doubles summer league and shot 813/1050+ with my Brunswick Absolute Nirvana. If I remember correctly, I started at 10-5 and just kept moving my feet left with the same target of 5 at the breakpoint

If it really plays how you said you need to figure out how far right you can get the ball with something that is smoother so small misses left dont go through the nose
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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2018, 08:35:26 PM »
I tried every ball I own. Best look I had was with an old twisted fury. The lack of oil in the middle confuses me. Hopefully they don't stick with this long term.

I just don't understand any kind of recreational shot that plays like a reverse block.

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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2018, 09:03:49 PM »
On reverse blocks, I used to go with a totally benign ball.....basically a weak piece that does little or nothing and then play the middle with a lot of hand!

I would also play out at 5 with a very  strong piece, if there was an out of bounds, and let the ball fall into the pocket area.

Using the weaker piece gave me more control however!
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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2018, 09:33:50 PM »
It is not a reverse block, it is a short psttern.  I wouldn't call it a recreational pattern however.  You have to square up and move out without going away from the pocket.

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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2018, 09:50:48 PM »
Why is it that anytime there’s no swing or hold it’s a “reverse block”?
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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 12:00:44 AM »
Why is it that anytime there’s no swing or hold it’s a “reverse block”?

Has to be if it's "reverse" of what we're used to. Duh. Swing and hold.
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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2018, 07:50:28 AM »
Why is it that anytime there’s no swing or hold it’s a “reverse block”?

Because for some people it's hard to imagine that from 10 right isn't in play. Them 10 to 1 ratios ruin ya!

In terms of what I've bowled on, last time I bowled on something similar, from 10 right was 45 feet of oil, and the middle was like 25. Don't remember the ratios, but really, when you get left of 10 and your ball hooks before the arrows, it doesn't matter much. I had to be soft handed with some decent surface and play up 8, and thread the needle. Only time I've ever bowled to Valpo to bowl one of Shaun's tournaments and I almost made the cut shooting 470.
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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2018, 08:01:25 AM »
One thing to keep in mind, as all lane machines are not created equal, Bourbon Street utilizes drop brush at 32 feet of a 40 foot pattern (I have to be very selective with  pattern choices for my sport league as the center won't put the drop brush upgrade on their machine). If the machine they are using doesn't have drop brush, it won't lay down properly, and play correctly.

 Also, 23ml is probably more volume than you are used to seeing. Means you need something with surface to slow down and read the lane, and not dart dive off the spot. And to echo what others have said, you need to start off out and chase it in.
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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2018, 08:53:20 AM »
Bourbon St is a 6:1 ratio pattern - it is far from a reverse block.  It's also not an easy house shot.  After bowling on it twice in the last month, my opinion is that it's the perfect gateway to tougher/flatter patterns.  I like the challenge of it.  It's still very easy to shoot par but you have to work for anything over 230.  Overall, I believe this is the type of pattern that those who are frustrated with the current high scoring environment would love to have as the THS... 

Anyway, if you are able to move your feet, change your launch angles, and have faith that you can score doing something different than what you do on the normal house shot, you will score.  Bourbon St is very hittable.  You just have to be open to trying something outside your normal comfort zone.

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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2018, 09:16:04 AM »
Why is it that anytime there’s no swing or hold it’s a “reverse block”?

Because the majority of bowlers do not understand bowling theory and they do not understand the definition of terms.

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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2018, 11:35:42 AM »
For heaven's sake, ease up on the guy. Reverse block is just a generic term indicating a general lack of oil in the middle, which is reversed from the typical house shot, where there's more oil in the middle... Jeez.

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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2018, 12:48:53 PM »
I’ve typically kept tighter angles as the pattern plays slicker up front with less back end taper requiring me to use equipment that reads heavier up front and doesn’t hit the corner as hard down the lane.
Sanded, more even rolling balls like my xeno, Freakshow solid and hooligan taunt have been my best looks but it has been a little while since I’ve last bowled on this pattern
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 12:50:26 PM by Brandon Riley »
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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2018, 12:50:42 PM »
For heaven's sake, ease up on the guy. Reverse block is just a generic term indicating a general lack of oil in the middle, which is reversed from the typical house shot, where there's more oil in the middle... Jeez.

While there is plenty of snark and attitude, most of the posters on this website are about educating the masses about bowling.  Calling a 6:1 shot a reverse block is just ignorant.  A 6:1 shot still has a puddle in the middle - there's just less of a wall than there usually is.  To say anything else is just flat out wrong.  Why is it wrong to call that out?  Can it be called out with less attitude?  Sure, but where's the fun in that?

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Re: Is Bourbon st the worst house shot ever?
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2018, 01:14:40 PM »
The shot is indicative of the real Bourbon St. While the flood in the middle has been drastically reduced, when your veer off to the sides of Bourbon Street, you typically don't come back to the middle of the street and all.

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