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Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« on: June 07, 2018, 10:34:17 AM »
In today's world everyone wants in on the latest & greatest trends. It's no different in the sport of bowling. Everyone flocks to the big name brands without ever giving the little guy a chance. To those people, let me ask these few questions.
1. Wasn't every company at one time a new and unproven product until tested by the bowlers?
2. Aren't all balls tested by the same standards and regulations?
3. Doesn't everyone wanna be at the forefront of change and evolution, especially for the betterment of what they love?
If you answered Yes to all these questions I only ask what is holding you and others back from trying these 4 great brands from a relatively unknown company in
California Bowling LLC. Most will say they've never heard of them before. Well now you have. A revitalization in the ball industry needs to happen now, especially with the changes coming in the next few years, and this is where it starts.
Please comment on why you or others won't give these smaller brands the opportunity and attention to impress you that they deserve. Thank you.
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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2018, 12:27:23 PM »
To each their own. I don't disagree with the comments made but if your going to market as swag you might want that as your website and not California Bowling and you might want a 800 number listed on the site.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2018, 12:29:26 PM by amyers2002 »

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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2018, 12:39:52 PM »
You're not helping the company you represent by doing this.

You can't tell someone their opinion is invalid on why it's not selling because they haven't thrown a ball from the company.

You want me to try one? Send me one. I'm not going to waste my money when I know what works for me. The companies you represent have some unique core designs and my best success has been with balls that are simpler. I've tried a few balls from Lane Masters that I thought could work for me. They didn't work for me no matter what I tried.

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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2018, 12:50:30 PM »
If anybody wants to try these brands go to the Website.Several balls in 15# for 35$ to 65$.Older stuff but can maybe give you a feel for what the brands are like.https://www.californiabowlingllc.com/index.php/closeout

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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2018, 01:01:58 PM »
Milo. No belittling here. Just stating facts. You can't judge a book by its cover is what I'm saying. Just because something looks good for someone else doesn't always mean it translates to success for you.

Yes, I CAN "...judge a book by it's cover..." when I'm spending my own money. In fact, I do it all the time.
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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2018, 01:17:31 PM »
If anybody wants to try these brands go to the Website.Several balls in 15# for 35$ to 65$.Older stuff but can maybe give you a feel for what the brands are like.https://www.californiabowlingllc.com/index.php/closeout

Great. I just bought 8 more balls for no freaking reason.

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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2018, 01:33:37 PM »
In my area, we seriously have a good 4-5 new "staff members" for this company. It's like they came out of nowhere. I'm not a pro by any means and know everyone has different talent levels, but this local "staff members" aren't exactly the cream of the crop in my area. I've seen them throw the new equipment and nothing has stood out that impressed me or wowed me in any way. I'm all for a new company to grow and survive, so I'll report back if I see anything eye-popping.

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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2018, 01:44:22 PM »
SVstar. I'm not saying anybody's opinion is invalid. I'm saying your selling yourself short by not looking at ANY other companies equipment besides what you've seen thrown. Also Milo, if you wanna buy something because it works good for someone else go ahead by all means. I'm trying to open people's eyes and minds to think outside the box. Everybody has opinions and that's great, this is mine. Seems today nobody likes constructive criticism unfortunately. I appreciate and welcome everyone's opinions, but it doesn't mean I have to agree. Have a great day!

« Last Edit: June 07, 2018, 01:47:35 PM by Jammer299 »
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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2018, 01:44:35 PM »
If anybody wants to try these brands go to the Website.Several balls in 15# for 35$ to 65$.Older stuff but can maybe give you a feel for what the brands are like.https://www.californiabowlingllc.com/index.php/closeout

Great. I just bought 8 more balls for no freaking reason.

Those yeah baby balls would be tempting if didn't already go on Visionary buying spree.  Interesting core in those pieces lol.  Do like 2 piece balls but pushy reps not so much.

The original Yeah Baby was a fantastic ball, one of the better balls of that time. I've tried the current one and wouldn't pay to drill it even if I got the ball for free.
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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2018, 02:05:20 PM »
Ahem.

As a representative for 900 Global (self appointed for a decade), allow me to speak on this issue.

You can not force someone to like your brand.

Certain people like certain ball motions that a company has to offer. Some people look at 900 Global and may be intrigued by a particular piece. They ask my opinion (which I'm ready to give an honest one) and try to work a ball into their ball based off of what they're looking for. Chances are, I can get almost any reaction a person wants from our line.

However, I do not cram my ideas down one's throat. I'll trumpet new releases, say where current releases fit in an arsenal, work with each individual until I believe I may have developed a small bleed in my brain from thinking so hard.

Nothing drives away potential paying customers more than being told that they are incorrect right off the bat.

You wanna talk about bowling company x and how a ball from my line can fit? Let's go! It's what I'm made to do! I'll take you to the lanes and do work until they're asking us to leave! At the end of the day, you may not match up with my suggestion (heaven known I haven't matched up with some balls), but I am not going to leave you with a bad taste in your mouth.

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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2018, 02:17:36 PM »
OP, what is your response to ME being fine with "selling myself short" by sticking with Storm/Roto Grip and being happy with my variety of shapes in my current arsenal?

Do you find it sad?   :-\
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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2018, 02:37:51 PM »
OP, what is your response to ME being fine with "selling myself short" by sticking with Storm/Roto Grip and being happy with my variety of shapes in my current arsenal?

Do you find it sad?   :-\

My response is I'm glad you found what you like. Go tear it up. I'm not cramming anything down anyone's throat. If it works for you that's great. I'm tapping into the group that has no favorite brand or preference. Humans are creatures of habit. You'll stick to what you know and that's fine. If you wanna explore and try new things that's great too. All I'm saying is if you only try something because someone else uses it, are you doing yourself a favor or a disservice?
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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2018, 02:44:00 PM »
OP, what is your response to ME being fine with "selling myself short" by sticking with Storm/Roto Grip and being happy with my variety of shapes in my current arsenal?

Do you find it sad?   :-\

My response is I'm glad you found what you like. Go tear it up. I'm not cramming anything down anyone's throat. If it works for you that's great. I'm tapping into the group that has no favorite brand or preference. Humans are creatures of habit. You'll stick to what you know and that's fine. If you wanna explore and try new things that's great too. All I'm saying is if you only try something because someone else uses it, are you doing yourself a favor or a disservice?

Fair enough. 

I can't answer the last part, as I don't throw Storm/Roto because someone else does.
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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2018, 02:48:57 PM »
Ahem.

As a representative for 900 Global (self appointed for a decade), allow me to speak on this issue.

You can not force someone to like your brand.

Certain people like certain ball motions that a company has to offer. Some people look at 900 Global and may be intrigued by a particular piece. They ask my opinion (which I'm ready to give an honest one) and try to work a ball into their ball based off of what they're looking for. Chances are, I can get almost any reaction a person wants from our line.

However, I do not cram my ideas down one's throat. I'll trumpet new releases, say where current releases fit in an arsenal, work with each individual until I believe I may have developed a small bleed in my brain from thinking so hard.

Nothing drives away potential paying customers more than being told that they are incorrect right off the bat.

You wanna talk about bowling company x and how a ball from my line can fit? Let's go! It's what I'm made to do! I'll take you to the lanes and do work until they're asking us to leave! At the end of the day, you may not match up with my suggestion (heaven known I haven't matched up with some balls), but I am not going to leave you with a bad taste in your mouth.

This is all you need to know. I get the OP's point he's trying to make but he's doing it very poorly. Sales and marketing is a lot more in depth than just saying you should give this a shot

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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2018, 03:25:30 PM »
The problem with LM/LF/CB & Swag :( is they have very,very little distributor help. SO. If you live on the East coast it costs a lot to get equipment shipped. They have also alienated a lot of the original staffers and in doing so they left.

The staff positions are not a great benefit at the lower levels because of shipping cost. They have way too many balls in there catalog for small companies. I don't know who does there covers but they are behind in the back end technology game. There stuff doesn't finish like the big boys stuff, so this makes them just a meh company to a lot of people when they see there stuff being thrown. I just don't know if this "be at the forefront of change and evolution" as you stated can be achieved by LM/LF/CB/Swag..

I could go on but I think this is enough.

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Re: Lane Masters, Legends, Lord Field & Swag
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2018, 03:37:34 PM »
Our 2 piece balls (which hardly anyone produces nowadays) are mainly from our Legends line and are designed to last longer, keep pins low and elevate your carry percentage. We use high quality resins like any other company and have developed some exotic cores to give a wide range of ball motions to help enhance anyones game. I'm not a chemist nor do I try to sound like one, but the science that gets put into our equipment is on par with everyone else. We have an awesome range of equipment (Solids, Pearls and Hybrids) for any bowler starting at entry level and going all the way up to high performance pieces.
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