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Moving your line after oil moves
« on: March 16, 2013, 10:12:25 AM »
Hello,

Just watched a video with Chris Barnes.  He said a typical (good?) bowler will need to move 8-10 boards during league play (5 man team).  I'm not arguing, but I hardly ever move that much....Does that sound about right?  8-10 boards?  Is their some kind of guideline for 200 avg folks?

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Re: Moving your line after oil moves
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 10:22:33 AM »
hes also taking into account the generally higher rev rates of higher level bowlers in scratch leagues.

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Re: Moving your line after oil moves
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 10:39:03 AM »
Before my house changed the oil pattern/oil I moved from 20 to 40 because of how bad it broke down. Then back to 20 with my Taboo Spare. So 40 boards of moving. Now I barely move 2 boards because of the oil.
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Re: Moving your line after oil moves
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2013, 11:10:46 AM »
Conditions and equipment being used are what always dictates move and how much you move. You the bowler need to watch ball reaction and whether it's coming in high or light make your move from that, if it's in the pocket you don't need to make a move.
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Re: Moving your line after oil moves
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2013, 12:39:20 PM »
It all depends on where you play the lane, how much oil exists where you play and what equipment everyone else including you are throwing in that area.

The modern coverstocks remove oil each time they roll down the lane, and on a typical house shot, most of your consistent higher average bowlers know where the shot is and play in that area so everyone is removing oil every shot.

Another example is for the team event at nationals last year, which is a sport condition, many bowlers posted that they were moving in every 2-3 frames.  Now at nationals, a lot of teams have discovered that 10 bowlers playing the exact same line as close as possible is the best way to score so the oil is removed faster creating a THS type of dry or bump.

On a normal THS, that bump is already provided so everyone tends to start at the oil line and as that oil is removed by the cover stock, you have to move in to find new oil to allow the ball to skid.

Now if your particular release is such that you require minimal head oil then you would not need to move as often.

Hope this makes sense.


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Re: Moving your line after oil moves
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2013, 01:02:36 PM »
Better bowlers "should" be more accurate, and given using the ball that gives you the best chance to score at all times, whether it's pearl or solid, and making only lateral moves, that doesn't sound like a bad number.  The more accurate you are, the faster you burn up your line.  The more aggressive the ball, it burns it up that much faster, and when you have several people on the same line, it disappears pretty quickly.  There are a lot of ways to avoid this, but when he says typically, he means typically, and I'd say it's an accurate statement. 

To combat this, I usually start out with a ball that's not quite hooking as much as I would prefer so that when the shot starts drying out by the end of the first game, I can ride it the rest of the night and move as little as possible.  The other thing I do is to play where nobody else is playing.  Got a lot of crankers on the pair, I'll go straight down 2nd arrow, lot of strokers, I'll get in deep.  I don't like moving or especially changing balls (just because I don't like taking a couple frame hit every game while I'm dialing everything back in) if I don't have to, so if you apply a little strategy, you can avoid going 250-150-250 in favor of 230-230-230. 
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Re: Moving your line after oil moves
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2013, 04:59:37 PM »
Before my house changed the oil pattern/oil I moved from 20 to 40 because of how bad it broke down. Then back to 20 with my Taboo Spare. So 40 boards of moving. Now I barely move 2 boards because of the oil.

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Re: Moving your line after oil moves
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2013, 06:51:39 PM »
I would say Mr. Barnes estimates are right on point. If you are trying to play the lane successfully and average 220+ then 8-10 boards is simply a minimum of boards to move. All of the above descriptions are accurate ways of initiating proper lane play.

I tend to watch all equipment being thrown on the lanes as I bowl, as well as the lines each person is using. Funny thing about this....I was talking to a friend of mine about this very thing last week. He told me that this was wayy too much effort to put out, just to bowl well. My reply to him was, "  bowling is about discipline and execution. Since you have been in a two year funk, you obviously have neither". I can say stuff like this to my friend without him blowing an absolute gasket, because we have known one another forever......and, deep down, he knows it's true.
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