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Prize funds
« on: May 20, 2008, 09:47:15 AM »
I did a search and came up empty.  I thought there was a similar post recently, but I didn't find it.

What are some good formulas for coming up with a prize fund?  I volunteered to help with our summer league.  It's 16 weeks for 12 teams of doubles, $2016 total, so not looking for anything too wild.

I guess one suggestion is go by points(easiest and my favorite - the better you bowl, the more you can win).  Nine points available each night for each team (two per game, three for totals), so 865 points for the league.  $2.33 per point minus any individual awards, which I plan to keep simple for a small league.

Another way is by percentages, again ignoring individual awards for now.  A few small tweaks for the odd amounts can help differentiate for the teams that have the same percentages.

1 = 14% = $282.24
2 = 12% = $241.92
3 = 10% = $201.60
4 = 10% = $201.60
5 = 9% = $181.44
6 = 9% = $181.44
7 = 8% = $161.28
8 = 7% = $141.12
9 = 6% = $120.96
10 = 6% = $120.96
11 = 5% = $100.80
12 = 4% = $80.64

The last place won't get much ($40/person), but would end up the same place if the averaged 2 points a night.  I want to make sure first and second make out decent so everyone doesn't end up with the same money; otherwise what's the point?

Any other suggestions, please?
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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 06:31:26 PM »
I wrote a program for generating prize distributions.  You tell it how many teams, how many per team, and list the special awards.  Then there's a knob for changing how top-heavy or evenly the team payouts are distributed.

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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 06:41:30 PM »
Might take a look at this also-

Click Here for Bowling Stuff Page

 The PrizeList Generator (SS)  is is a spreadsheet for making a bowling league prize list.

With the team payouts are based on position (1st place, 2nd place etc..).and payouts for individual mens and womens awards and Team awards.

Updated 12/22/07 to Ver.2.1

Now has sheets for 6, 8,10,12,14,16,18,24 and 32 team leagues.
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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2008, 06:45:14 PM »
In all our leagues there is also prize money for
high game (men)
high handicap game (men)
high game (women)
high handicap game (women)
high series (men)
high handicap series (men)
high series (women)
high handicap series (women)
high average (men)
high average (women)
and sometimes most improved...men and women

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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 09:11:35 PM »
Thanks for the link Aloarjr810.  That's pretty helpful for fine tuning the percentages.  Makes it very easy to adjust a league from top heavy to very evenly paid.  Atochabsh, I was intending on putting in the individual awards.  I just didn't want to clog up the general discussion with them.  Even though, I'm pretty much where I started.  Points and a percentage break down.  Since a split season isn't really worthwhile for a summer league, is there another system that can be used for the distribution?
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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 09:26:04 PM »
I usually make up about 3 different prize funds and have the league vote on the one they want. That way no one can b!tch about it.
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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 09:34:02 PM »
That's what I'm doing.  A point system which, unfortunately doesn't tell people exactly what they'll get back, and a percentage system are good, but I was hoping to have a third choice to vote on.  If nothing else, I can give them a point system, a top heavy pay out, and a more even distribution.  As far as the individual awards, I hate having too many for a small league.  Personally, I've never been a big fan of both scratch and handicap awards, but I know it's what most people expect.  Also, there are only a handful of women in the league.  If I don't have separate awards for each gender, I know it won't be popular with the women.  But if I do scratch and handicap for the women, it pretty much guarantees that they will all get something, which is kind of unfair to the men.
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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2008, 12:13:47 AM »
Generally in most handicap leagues all the individual awards get the same amount.  So let's say $15.  That would take 10 or 12 more awards.  So take away from the general prize fund of $150 to $180.  So then you have $1836 to divide for the team wins.  

Now some leagues also give our high team game and high team series.  

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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2008, 01:19:58 AM »
quote:
Personally, I've never been a big fan of both scratch and handicap awards, but I know it's what most people expect.  


In the centers I bowl if the league is scratch, they have individual and team scratch awards only.  If the league is hdcp, then the individual and team awards are hdcp only.  

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Also, there are only a handful of women in the league.  If I don't have separate awards for each gender, I know it won't be popular with the women.


It depends on how many women and the size of the league.  Two summers ago there were 4 women in a 10 team league (5 menmbers/ team)  There was no separate women's awards.  There was no problem.

Also some leagues do not even have Individual or Team awards for the summer due to the short season.
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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2008, 07:50:14 AM »
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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2008, 10:12:09 AM »
You could instead of seperating male female individual awards (since you have few women) you can create divisions. Let's say two divisions 150 and under and 151 and over.  It would depend on what the overall average is in the league.

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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2008, 10:33:43 AM »
Paste and copy the following link, this has a prize fund generator which
may make your chore a little easier.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~litefrozen/index.htm

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Re: Prize funds
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2008, 12:10:02 AM »
Here's an example of bad prize fund.  

32+ weeks of bowling at $13/week.  16 5 person teams.  League champions got $15 a piece.  

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