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Pushaway - Elbow over the knee
« on: October 22, 2014, 12:14:12 PM »
I have seen this mentioned in Norm Duke's instructional video, and seen it some coaching articles.

Listing everything that should happen in the Push away step:
- the step is a cross over (at least foot is in front of other)
- the actual push away is slightly down from the waist
- elbow is over the knee
- arm not exactly straight (if looking a the person from behind, the elbow is over the knew and the ball is slightly out to the right (this would be for a right hand bowler).

Is this idea for this elbow over the knee used for better accuracy. Kind of giving a good fix point for the pushaway?

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Re: Pushaway - Elbow over the knee
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2014, 06:05:24 PM »
There are several different pushaway methods, all will work depending on the individual. Duke's "elbow over the knee" is designed to increase accuracy, as well as
create swing momentum--without overextending the pushaway beyond the knee, which could lead to timing problems. Overextending the pushaway also tends to cause the bowler to grip the ball with too much hand pressure.

John Jowdy was one of the top bowling instructors over the years . He advocated that the bowler push the ball in an upward motion (over the bar as he would say).
He believed that this created more natural swing momentum, one propelled by gravity. His method was a boon for many top PBA players.

Joe Slowinski, another top notch instructor suggests that today's bowler use a
hinge-type pushaway motion, where the arm simply uncoils in a downward arc
motion. The hinge style has 2 advantages that the other styles don't. First, the hinge
gets the ball into the correct timing zone on the initial downswing sooner. Second,
by not extending the pushaway elbow out too far, the bowler will not feel the need
to "grab" the ball with excessive pressure throughout the swing cycle. He is correct.

The $64,000 question is which is the best style. Again, it depends on the bowler.
Over the years, I have tried them all. All of them worked but for me, I always performed a little better by utilizing a traditional pushaway motion, being careful not
to overextend the bowling elbow in the process. It is my firm belief that long-armed bowlers like myself do better with this method due to our slower swing cycle. It takes us a little longer to successfully complete our approach in good timing. The hinge pushaway
has a tendency to get my feet moving faster---faster than my natural swing cycle, causing me to be out of time at the line.

Some very good instructors are also now advocating that most bowlers speed up their
footwork for better timing. This depends on the speed of your swing. The feet should
match the tempo of the armswing and not the other way around.

So, what works for one bowler may not necessarily work for another.

 

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Re: Pushaway - Elbow over the knee
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2014, 08:33:20 PM »
re: Jowdy

Pushing the ball up and over "the bar" has helped my ball speed vs. the hinge. Marked improvement for me.

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Re: Pushaway - Elbow over the knee
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 10:33:46 AM »
I took a couple of lessons from Jowdy several years ago when I was living in San Diego.  He really helped to loosen up my swing. He also had me "pushing over the bar". This worked too, but I had to be careful to keep my pushaway step a tad slower than normal in order to allow for the extra arc that was created by "pushing up".  He also
lengthened my 3rd step (I am a 5-stepper), in order to generate extra swing momentum. It worked very well. Jowdy was also very big on keeping the bowling elbow locked through the release and follow through and directing the fingers towards the breakpoint (vs towards the ceiling). 

 He also shared with me some very interesting stories about the PBA tour.  He was a wealth of knowledge and he had a keen eye for details.