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trash heap

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Should there be a limited distance for a loft?
« on: December 06, 2016, 01:44:30 PM »
Just opening a discussion.

There is a very good bowler in our area, who can really get the ball out there. Pretty amazing to see him eliminate the first 12-15 feet of lane.

I recall that there were pros that took this to an extreme a few years back in a tournament.

What do you think. Should there be a rule that the ball must be on the lane within a certain distance (4feet? 7 feet? 10 feet?)

You see signs in the Bowling Centers that state "No Lofting".  Curious what counts as loft in their opinion. When does usually someone get told to stop doing it?
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Gene J Kanak

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Re: Should there be a limited distance for a loft?
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2016, 08:05:44 AM »
I wouldn't blame proprietors for banning loft during open bowling and possibly even recreational leagues. Obviously, open bowlers are probably just doing it for fun, and I've never encountered a league pattern that truly requires that type of play. Now, when you get into the competitive arena, I think it should be allowed as needed.

I liken it to soft spikes versus metal in golf. I haven't seen a golf course that allows metal spikes in about 20 years, yet the pros are allowed to wear them during tournaments. The average duffer like me should wear soft spikes to protect the greens from damage. Pros should have the option. I see loft much the same. If their is nothing of significance on the line, no extreme lofting; save the lane surface. If we're in a high-stakes league or tournament, let them do it as long as it's being done to play the lanes, not out of frustration or for entertainment value.
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jimjames

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Re: Should there be a limited distance for a loft?
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2016, 07:53:14 PM »
Quote from: Gid837 on December 06, 2016, 02:19:03 PM
the object of the game is to knock down as many pins as possible. whatever measurs need to be taken to complete the object are fair game. Don't hate someone, or try to limit someone who has the abilities to do something that you do not. I guess you think everyone should get a trophy too.

The owners of the alleys should dictate what is right or wrong and within house rules. Why are you so defensive about trophy's? Why even go there?
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2handedvolcano

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Re: Should there be a limited distance for a loft?
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2016, 08:14:29 PM »
no there should not be, with new technology if the owner does not like it, get a better lane surface
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Re: Should there be a limited distance for a loft?
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2016, 09:35:13 PM »
Quote from: 2handedvolcano on December 07, 2016, 08:14:29 PM
no there should not be, with new technology if the owner does not like it, get a better lane surface

1)  There's a value to having different lane surfaces to bowl on.
2)  The profit margin for a lot of centers is much thinner than what they spend on annual maintenance.  In most places that money would be better used keeping the pinsetters working or the roof leak-free.
3)  Telling a center to spend more money if they don't like the way YOU bowl on THEIR lanes is a pretty poor attitude.  If I were a proprietor that kind of attitude would get you invited to bowl elsewhere, but not as politely.

As to the OP, I don't think the USBC would really have grounds to form a rule banning loft unless it was on the grounds of formalizing a generally universal house rule.  It's certainly a valid skill to develop, although I do fear it's only going to get more exaggerated as time goes on.
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Re: Should there be a limited distance for a loft?
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2016, 10:35:28 AM »
Quote from: 2handedvolcano on December 07, 2016, 08:14:29 PM
no there should not be, with new technology if the owner does not like it, get a better lane surface

Or just kick your ass out and problem solved.
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Re: Should there be a limited distance for a loft?
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2016, 12:22:07 PM »
Put an invisible foul censor line at the middle marker that is halfway down the lane.
If you have to loft the ball passed that far down the lane, then get a ball for less oil :P
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