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lilpossum1

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Symmetric vs asymmetric
« on: April 24, 2015, 01:57:49 PM »
What really is the difference in these two types of cores? I know most of the hook monsters use asymmetric cores. For a while, I believed asymmetrics where stronger, but Track seems to use asymmetric cores in almost every ball, even the low end ones. Also, what makes a core stronger or weaker than another? 

 

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Re: Symmetric vs asymmetric
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2015, 02:29:52 PM »
For a generic response to differences between symmetrics and asymmetrics, read this link about halfway down: http://www.bowlingthismonth.com/bowling-balls/

In regards to Track balls: A lot of symmetric balls have some asymmetry to them.  Track's "asymmetric cores" do not meet the asymmetric standard per the USBC.  The USBC rule is any ball with an intermediate differential > .010" must be marked with a mass bias.  A lot of Track's asymmetric balls have int diffs < .10" - which makes them weak asymmetrics (I.E. 607A SE with an int diff of .007").  Track does not have to mark the mass bias, but they choose to. 

FWIW, I loved the 607 and wish Track still made it.



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Re: Symmetric vs asymmetric
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2015, 03:05:22 PM »
Great reply LFALW
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

lilpossum1

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Re: Symmetric vs asymmetric
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2015, 12:58:10 PM »
So the intermediate differential is what makes one core stronger than the other?

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Re: Symmetric vs asymmetric
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2015, 08:25:12 PM »
So the intermediate differential is what makes one core stronger than the other?

Not exactly. 

Copied and pasted from another BR thread: Int. Diff determines the strength of the PSA. The stronger the Int. Diff the faster the spin time of the PSA. The faster the spin time of the PSA the shorter the hook zone on the lane. Which means the ball will transition from Skid-Hook-Roll faster.

Couple this with low RG and a super aggressive cover and you end up with a hook monster.

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Re: Symmetric vs asymmetric
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2015, 12:52:40 AM »
If you notice all of tracks low end "assyms" are all in a line because they are simply marking the virtual mass bias..

Typically u will see variation with a true assymertical core.

The kinetic pearl (pre 505A?) Was extremely good, I think about going back to EBI one day as a customer just to throw that core again.  But then they got rid of hickland, they forever lost me as a customer. 
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Re: Symmetric vs asymmetric
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2015, 10:25:16 AM »
Thanks for the explanations! I have considered trying track again. I loved my 300c pearl, but never could dial in the surface of my 811 c/t to get a good reaction. My pro shop is too far away for me to justify getting it redrilled

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Re: Symmetric vs asymmetric
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2015, 07:30:04 AM »
Symmetric balls give the maximum amount of track flare(axis migration) when the pin is placed 3 3/8' from the PAP, and the amount of track flare decreases when the pin is placed more than 3 3/8' or lesss than 3 3/8' from the PAP.  Assymetric balls give the maximum amount of track flare when the pin is placed 3 3/8' inches or more from the PAP, and the amount decreases when the pin is placed less than 3 3/8' inches from the PAP.  This allows high rev players to place the pin 5 or 6 inches from the PAP on assymetric balls to cut down on revs for more control but still maintain a high amount of track flare for more hook and less oil carrydown.

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Re: Symmetric vs asymmetric
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2015, 10:32:19 AM »
I don't know anything about the whos, whats, hows, whys etc about the difference between symmetrical and assymetrical cored balls, I just know that for my lower speed and lower revs, symmetrical cored balls have almost always worked best for me....
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