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Mr Lefty

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asymmetrical vs. symmetrical cores...
« on: April 26, 2005, 07:17:26 AM »
what are the differences in reactions?
which one would you rather prefer?
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Jeffrevs

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Re: asymmetrical vs. symmetrical cores...
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2005, 04:21:20 PM »
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Assymetrics tend to be less versatile, but can give you more a specific reaction


I disagree with this as most know,..I'm not saying you're wrong, but I just disagree.  The above statement is deceiving because if you can get more of a specific reaction, how is it less versatile? Just a different way of looking at it I guess.....

Strong asymetrics give you a stronger core, or available strength of the core at the breakpoint IF DESIRED!!!!

If you want smooth, they can give you smooth, but it's up to your driller to know what the heck they're doing in order to do so! (VERY IMPORTANT!)

Asymetrics can be as versatile as a symetrical ball with the right drilling. For instance, I have a strong asymmetrical ball (hercules) actually I have 2 of them and they're both smooth and both very versatile,...but still give me great hitting power and carry.  Right now I can use these 2 balls on 85-90% of what I see !

Bottom line....you "can" do more with a strong asym ball with drilling as opposed to a symetrical ball, for instance you can fine tune them more than a symetrical ball to fit your specific game better.

Neither are better or worse, it comes down to preferences ....for me 95% of my stuff is asymetrical and they're all fairly smooth and controllable (hook-set) type drills...
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Jeffrevs

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Re: asymmetrical vs. symmetrical cores...
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2005, 04:45:11 PM »
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The hercules is one fo the msot versatile assymetrics out there. like I said those a purely generalitites.


Yes, you did say that they are generalities, and that's why I added what I added

Yes, the Hercules is indeed....however....most strong asyms can be as well....
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LuckyLefty

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Re: asymmetrical vs. symmetrical cores...
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2005, 04:53:33 PM »
Assymetrics are less versatile after drilling as they create a more specific or defined reaction.

Before drilling they are just as versatile because one can choose from a myriad of potential and specific reactions!

Recently I drilled an assymetric in way that has not worked with symmetrics at all for a very unique and specific shot that has flustered me for over a year!

It worked.  I am going to reverify over the next few days by throwing a strong symmetric drilled the same way with similar coverstock and still see if only the asymmetric keeps striking!

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Re: asymmetrical vs. symmetrical cores...
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2005, 04:01:05 AM »
When buying or intending to use an asymmetric core it is best to know the lane condition and the reaction you want to have - plus an experienced driller who can transmit this into the ball. I have two asymmetrics, a TPC Palyer and a TPC Shooter. The Player has a 135° MB drilling and was versatile on any midium and up lane I have thrown it. But the Shooter, with a 45° drill, was a disappointment in the first place because the setup didn't match with the lane conditions. After an oil macjine accident and an different oil pattern this ball has spontaneously come alive!

So, if you know where and how to use the ball, a asymmetric can be the better choice because of the fine-tuning options such a core gives the driller. The drawback is its sensitivity if things do not match up. It is the prize for specialization you pay. Symmetric cores should be less prone to such changes.
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Jeffrevs

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Re: asymmetrical vs. symmetrical cores...
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2005, 06:26:44 AM »
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Assymetrics are less versatile after drilling as they create a more specific or defined reaction.


Not true Lucky...ONLY IF IT'S DRILLED FOR ONE SPECIFIC HOUSE/SHOT

What ball doesn't give a specific reaction when drilled ?!
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Steven

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Re: asymmetrical vs. symmetrical cores...
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2005, 11:26:30 AM »
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What ball doesn't give a specific reaction when drilled ?!
 


Jeff: Not all core/drill combinations are created equal with respect to versatility across many conditions. Asymmetric cores (depending on drill) provide the potential for a broader range of hook shapes, but the price is specialized reaction, and therefore fewer situations where the ball can be effectively used.  

After having used a lot of asymmetric equipment myself, this is why I've moved away from them. For controlled reactions that work well during transition, the best you can do with an asymmetric is come close to a good symmetric. Where I want to cover boards, I can do that as effectively with a high-end symmetric as I can with a asymmetric.

I do keep two asymmetric balls around (Apex Intensity and X-Factor Deuce) for very specific fresh conditions I sometimes see in my home house, but they stay in the bag during tournaments, where control and predictability is everything.

If you've set up one or more asymmetric balls that work in your environment, that's great. Just understand that there is a price for the specific reactions they can provide.
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