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Forza GT
« on: June 17, 2016, 10:12:19 AM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
The Motiv Forza GT bowling ball is the hybrid version of the Forza bowling balls. This ball combines control and power as well as length and consistency. The Helix HR (hybrid reactive) coverstock offers an ideal amount of traction for medium oil lane conditions. The cover of this ball has been fine tuned with a 4000 grit LSS finish. The Torx weight block in this ball creates an RG and differential that make this ball extremely versatile. This bowling ball is like the perfect sports car that offers control and power so go ahead and take one for a spin!

Color: Two-Tone Blue All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
Core: Torx
Coverstock: Helix HR (Hybrid Reactive)
Finish: 4000 Grit LSS
RG: 2.50 (for 15# ball)
Differential: .051 (for 15# ball)
Recommended Lane Condition: Medium Oil

 

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Re: Forza GT
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2016, 02:42:15 PM »

Description: The Forza GT is the third Forza in the series, but the first with a hybrid coverstock. The new Helix HR (Hybrid Reactive) shell covers the original Torx Core used in the previous two Forza’s. This Forza once again has the MOTIV Badge Logo, which gives it great shelf appeal. 

Reaction: It’s an honest assessment that the Forza GT is a combination of the first two Forza’s. The Forza GT provides more length than the original, but not as clean as the Forza Redline. In terms of shape down lane the Forza GT is not as slow or smooth as the original, but also not as fast or angular as the Redline when seeing friction. As far as overall hook the Forza GT is stronger than either of the first two Forza’s given all things are equal (layouts, surface and lane condition). I think for a majority of the people who throw this it will become a benchmark ball. With the overall shape the Forza GT provides and continuation, it will allow success with multiple angles of attack. With the box finish or less it will be useable on a lot of house conditions and with the box finish or even more surface added I think it will be useable on a lot of challenging medium to heavy oil conditions.

Comparisons: The original Forza was very early and very controllable, making it more condition specific. The Forza Redline was almost too fast or angular to be considered a benchmark ball, once again the Forza GT will fit right in between. MOTIV inserts the Forza GT in the smooth column of the ball guide (http://www.motivbowling.com/resources/ball-guide.html), but because of the combination of the unique shape and strength, it provides a lot of versatility. The Revolt Havoc is much earlier and much slower down lane and although your eyes will tell you the Forza GT hooks more that is only because the Revolt Havoc hooks almost entirely in the front part of the lane. For me the Forza GT will probably be taking some time away from my Venom Shock, it’s a little stronger and just a little smoother, and I really like the Venom Shock, as I know a lot of people do.

Summary: There are times when I need something smoother but still required to play the deeper part of the lane. The best part about the Forza GT is the carry it has provided on a part of the lane that I struggle to carry with more controllable balls. Also, because I am preparing for USBC’s in Reno I am very surprised at the continuation I see, even when I am very up the back of the ball. #0to300

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« Last Edit: June 29, 2016, 02:24:59 PM by MOTIVmags »

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Re: Forza GT
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 12:23:39 PM »
Forza GT

The new Forza GT is a ball that I have anxiously awaited. I have been a huge fan of the Forza Redline since it was released. The Forza Redline provided me a great mid lane read with a much stronger back end than the original Forza. The new Forza GT takes it one step further. The new Hybrid Coverstock         ( Helix HR) provides the traction needed on Medium Oil patterns with both length and control. The pearlized coverstock adds the hitting power and continuation we have all come to love from Motiv equipment.  For me the pin up v ersion provided some added length with a very similar shape and was a great compliment to the pin down version which read much earlier in the mid lane but wasn’t over reactive. The Forza GT is a great complimental piece to the Redline for me as it will provide me with the additional shapes needed to compete at the PBA level while still providing the predictability of the Forza line. 

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Re: Forza GT
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 02:48:39 PM »
DESCRIPTION

INNER CORE - Torx™
COVERSTOCK - Helix™ HR
FINISH - 4000 Grit Laser Scan Sanding
RG RATING - 2.50 (15 lbs)
RG DIFFERENTIAL - 0.51 (15 lbs)
FLARE POTENTIAL - 5"+


REACTION

The Forza GT follows in line with other Motiv releases in that is fills a gap without reacting like other equipment in our current lineup. The GT is designed for medium oil and reads in the midlane. The all new Helix™ coverstock gets the ball to the mid lane without bogging down in the heads. The GT doesn't just go forward off the spot, it continues to drive with energy through the pins.


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COMPARISONS


The balls I chose to compare the pin down Forza GT to were the Revolt Havoc, Paranoia, and Venom Cobra. If you watch the video you'll be able to see the Havoc starts up earlier and has more total overall hook than GT. The Paranoia gets further down lane with less overall hook and isn't able to recover from the same line as the GT. The Cobra also gets further down lane than the GT and is is even weaker than the Paranoia. The GT fits in between the Havoc, Paranoia, and Cobra in ball motion and overall hook. It doesn't start as early as the Havoc, but it is earlier and stronger than both the Paranoia and Cobra. This places the GT firmly in the benchmark category.

The balls I chose to compare to the pin up Forza GT were the original Forza, Octane Burn, and Venom Shock. The original Forza is earlier and forward off the spot providing very little continuation through the pins. The Octane Burn gets further down lane and while it responds faster to friction, isn't as strong as the GT in overall hook. For me, the Venom Shock had to closest shape to the GT than all of the other balls I compared to the GT. The main difference I saw was in overall hook and continuation. The Shock is more mild by design and for me is more forward off the spot than the GT.

SUMMARY

"Benchmark" is a term that gets thrown around in the bowling industry quite often and I must admit I find the Forza GT to be just that. It's a ball designed for medium oil that doesn't start too early or too late. It isn't forward off the spot nor does it go sideways either. Since I have drilled my two GT's I keep finding myself going back to them frequently. During practice I will throw whatever I bring with me and when my GT is in the bag, I usually end up throwing it. I find it to be quite versatile and usable on a wide variety of patterns because of how well it controls and reads the lane. It's the perfect fit between not only the original Forza and the Redline, but also the medium/heavy and light oil choices. If you are looking for a ball that can be used on a multitude of conditions, check out the Forza GT. 


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Re: Forza GT
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2016, 09:20:49 PM »
The Forza GT is latest ball from MOTIV bowling that uses the Torx core found in the Forza and Forza Redline. The GT is equipped with the new Helix Hybrid Reactive (HR) cover stock. While the Forza was early and smooth and the Redline was long and strong, the GT is a blend of both. Not as early and not as strong which means better control. Playing tighter angles on longer patterns with control is definitely a must in my bag and should be in your bag. It's been hard for me to take the Venom Shock out of my hands but this ball has just about done that. I have drilled Forza GT, one pin up/no hole and one pin down with a hole 2 inches down from my axis. They are quickly becoming new favorites.
The blue/dark blue color combo with bright yellow Neomark logo provides amazing shelf appeal and looks great going down the lane. If you liked the Forza and Redline, you'll love changing gears and throwing the GT.
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RevRate=375
Ball Speed=17
PAP= 5"right - 1/4"down

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Re: Forza GT
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2016, 11:48:54 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: 41 Ft

Volume: Medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

Review:

The Motiv Forza GT is the newest release from Motiv bowling. The Forza GT is the hybrid version of the Forza line and is the most balanced of all three. The Forza GT brings together Torx core and the new Helix HR hybrid reactive. This combination gives the Forza GT the smooth, continuation from the original Forza and the length through the pins we saw with the Forza Redline. The GT gives the bowlers that proper balance but still being true to the Forza line.

INNER CORE        Torx
COVERSTOCK      Helix HR
FINISH               4000 Grit LSS

Comments:

If you go around and ask my core friends or Motiv teammates and you will know the Forza Redline was my ball of choice this past season. I loved everything about that bowling ball because it gave me what I thought was missing from the original Forza so I was excited to see what the Forza GT had to bring. First, this is my favorite color scheme because I’m from Michigan and huge UofM fan so that was my first thought but boy has the piece blew my mind away. What the Forza GT gives me is I feel I can play any part of the lane and still have the confidence to knock 10 pins down. I felt that with the balance in length that gives me the confidence I need. High rev players will love the piece on fresh house shot and flatter sport shot condition because of the balance of smooth ball motion, aggressive downlane motion and angle into the pocket. Lower rev players will love this piece because that can get out of their confront zone without worrying about power.
Likes: Smooth and aggressive downlane motion; angular; Overall well balanced.
Dislikes: None

I recommend the Motiv Forza GT to all types of bowlers.

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Forza GT
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2016, 12:25:57 AM »
This ball is the newest introduction into the Forza line of MOTIV bowling balls. The MOTIV Forza GT features the new Helix™ HR (Hybrid Reactive) cover stock combined with the Torx core . It's clean through the front of the lane, it reads the med lane for change of direction and makes a strong but controllable move on the backend. Most importantly, it features the continuation that MOTIV balls are becoming known for.

It will be a great fit in your bag on medium oil. The Forza GT will become that benchmark ball in your bag you can count on to read the lanes and blend out patterns on the fresh, yet give you more then enough backends that you won't want to put the ball away after five frames. 

My Forza GT is laid out with the pin to the right of my ring finger, the cg stacked straight up and down and an extra hole about 1" below my PAP. This ball has already found a place in my bag, it's a great ball first out of my bag. The ball gives me very readable controlled roll and blends the fresh out very nicely.  The Hybird cover creates a new and exciting look in the Forza line, combining the roll of the original Forza and the backend reaction of the Redline. I believe we'll be seeing A LOT of these going down the lanes this coming league and tournament season.

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Re: Forza GT
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2016, 02:50:44 PM »
I was a big fan of the original smooth rolling MOTIV Forza, so I was excited to see that the new Forza GT was coming out with the same core, and a new Hybrid Cover.  My hope was that the Forza GT would be right in the middle of my arsenal, and after throwing it for a while under a variety of conditions – that’s exactly what I got: My new benchmark ball!   On average length fresh oil patterns I find that the GT has just the right amount of traction to deliver perfect continuation through the pins.

Here is a link to the ball reaction video that I did which compares the Forza GT to the MOTIV Freestyle, Venom Cobra, Paranoia, Revolt Havoc & the Primal Rage Remix on Kegel’s Bourbon Street Pattern:


On fresh sport patterns (in the 38 to 42 foot range) is where the GT shines the most for me. It is smooth and easy to read and gives me a real accurate sense of what the lane is offering me that day. Plus, since it’s right in the middle of my line-up, I am able to easily transition to another ball that might have have a little more back-end, or pick up a bit earlier.  I’ve also experimented and found that the GT really takes to surface adjustments very well to really fine tune the shape.  If you’ve been waiting for a dependable, benchmark performer, I’d say that the Forza GT is it!

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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2016, 04:11:37 PM »
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   65 x 5 ½” x 40

Building upon the success of the reliable Torx core (2.50RG, .051Diff), the latest iteration of the Forza line not only looks good on the shelf, it leaves its mark on the lane as well.  The new Helix HR coverstock (finished at 4000 LSS) allows the GT to read the mids like the original while still saving energy for some backend pop similar to the Redline.  This ball is slotted to provide a middle ground for the Forza line and it does not fail.  Throwing mine on several shots I have found that it blends the wet/dry extremely well, giving me a more tempered reaction at the breakpoint without sacrificing a continuous backend roll through the deck.  The ability for this to read the mids gives me a heads up on the transitions but also some forgiveness in case I was a bit behind the move.  Even when I get deeper on the lane I can see the ball blending out the hook spot to give me a controllable breakpoint.  If you’re looking for a benchmark ball that will control the pocket for you while giving you a bit of miss-right forgiveness, look no further than the Forza GT.

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MOTIV Forza GT Video bowling ball review by Average Joe Reviews
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2016, 10:27:53 PM »

BALL SPECS

Pin Length: 3.9

Starting Top Weight: 2.8

Ball Weight: 15.1


DRILL PATTERN

Pin to PAP: 4.5

X Hole (if there is one): P2


BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate: 250

Ball Speed: 16.5 mph


SURFACE PREP

Grit: 4000 Grit LSS

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded): Matte


LANE CONDITION

Length: 36' and 39'

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): WTBA Beijing and THS


COMMENTS

Likes: For being an early, smoother piece, the GT has great backend motion and good continuation through the pins. I was able to miss my mark during league by about 3 boards outside and the ball never overreacted.

I like how predictable the ball is and the improved length over the original Forza, which by the way is one of my favorite balls.

The GT allowed me to play deeper and move inside without sacrificing carry. This is a good ball to build an arsenal around since for me it has a benchmark type of motion.

Dislikes: none at the moment.


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Re: Forza GT
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2016, 10:38:48 AM »
Bowler Info:

Rev Rate:  300 RPM
Ball Speed: 15.5 MPH
Ball Weight: 15lb
Rotation: 45
Tilt: 17

Ball Info:

Coverstock: Helix HR
Finish: 4000 LSS
Core: Torx

LANE CONDITION:

Length: 41 Ft
Volume: Medium (25mL)
Shot Type: THS

COMMENTS:

The Motiv Forza GT is the hybrid version in the Forza line. It give me more down lane motion than the original Forza and allows me to play a little deeper in the oil than the Redline. The GT is drilled with the ping in the ring finger. I've had a lot of success with the original Forza but when I needed to move left an swing it a little more it could not make the corner. The GT solves that. I like how it gets down the lane and turns the corner. You can see the difference in the video between the 3 balls in the Forza line. As a comparison I included  my pin up Vengeance for a couple of shots. You can see that the GT gets down the lane a little cleaner and has a little more back end on this fresh house shot. All balls were rolled on the same line.

Rob Lange
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Re: Forza GT
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2016, 06:45:22 AM »
Motiv Forza GT (http://www.motivbowling.com/products/balls/forza-gt.html)
45 x 4 x 45 (OOB Surface)

Personal Stats:
400-450 RPM
18-20 MPH
PAP - 5 5/8" over, 1" up
Axis Tilt - Estimated 8-12 Degrees
Current League Average: 238

Intended Use:
I put my go to pin-down layout on this ball looking for a nice benchmark motion. With its hybrid coverstock, the Forza GT is a little later than the original Forza, and a little later than the Forza Redline.

Reaction:
I got exactly what I was looking for out of the Forza GT. This ball is one of the first out of the bag on medium-oily lane conditions. The hybrid coverstock retains enough energy to pop off the back of the pattern, but the ball is strong enough not to hydroplane in oil.

Overall:
The Forza GT provides an excellent look at the lanes as first out of the bag. If I need something stronger, I can use a Trident. Smoother, a Revolt Havoc. Weaker, drop down to a Venom Shock. Very predictable motion that has been great on those medium length patterns. 

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Re: Forza GT
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2016, 12:15:37 AM »
Forza GT Review

Motiv Bowling has introduced the New Forza GT. I drilled the Forza GT just like i drill all my symmetrical balls (65 x 4 1/2 x 35). I love this layout because it gives me plenty of flare without sacrificing down-lane hook for my style. This is one of my favorite balls in my bag right now. The Forza GT is the third Forza in the series and in my opinion the best out of the three. The Forza has a New Helix HR (Hybrid Reactive) coverstock, which raps around the Torx Core that is used in the previous two Froza’s. The Forza GT still gives me a benchmark feel, but will give you more continuation down lane.  Compared to the original Forza the GT will not be as early,  but can handle the same amount of oil and will continue through the pins better. Compared to Redine, the Forza GT is earlier with better continuation but they are a really great compliment to each other.  I have used this ball on multiple pattern and tournament. The Forza GT is best when used on medium to light lane conditions. If you are looking for a benchmark ball with great continuation through the pins. The Forza GT should be your balls of choice!. Jonathan Sellers Motiv Staffer

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Forza GT Review
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2016, 10:34:39 PM »
Ball Specs:
 Motiv Forza GT
 Hybrid Reactive
 4000 Grit LSS
 Symmetric Core
 Layout 70 x 4.5 x 35

 Bowler Specs:
 Right Hand.  PAP  4-3/4 Over 1/4 Up
 Rev Rate 250. Tilt 20. Rotation 50.
 Speed off hand  18

 Review:
 The Forza GT is a nice addition to the Forza Line. It is also noted the other Forza balls have been discontinued. The Forza GT still uses the Torx core which matches the Hybrid cover nicely. The GT would fit right between the original Forza which wanted to start early and the Redline which was very angular compared to the GT.  The Forza GT is really the best of both worlds. The Forza GT is a very nice looking ball and can easily be polished for more length and backend. Like the other Forza balls, the GT drives through the pocket keeping the pins low. In my opinion the newer Motiv Balls seem to clean easier and feel tackier after cleaning.  In the current line the Forza GT fits under my Revolt Havoc and above my Octane Burn.  The Forza GT is very predictable and hard hitting and is a must have for house shots. The Forza GT reads early enough but still saves power for the back end. It is easy to line up with the GT and once you do, you can beat the pocket up all night. I got my best results with swinging the GT on a house shot or going up the boards on a sport pattern. In the video we are on the Tower of Piza and the ball rolled very well even with my lower rev rate. It would not be my first choice on heavy and flat patterns but will still work. As I said before a THS is where this ball really shines!  I do not think we have seen the last of the Forza line from Motiv.



Summary:
 The Forza GT has a new predictable Hybrid cover
 This ball is a House Shot must have,
 The Forza GT hits hard and keeps pins low.
 Polishes well but maintains the same predictability.
 This is another great core/cover match.

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Re: Forza GT
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2016, 11:40:38 AM »
Rev Rate:420
Axis Tilt:20
Axis Rotation: 45
Ball Speed:17
PAP Measurements: 4 1/8
 
 
Description:  Back for the 3rd time with in the legendary Forza series is the Forza GT, this hybrid combines both the control of the original Forza with the continuation and hitting power of the Forza Redline. The GT Helix Hybrid Reactive coverstock provides easy length and the Torx core provides controllable continuation through the pin deck.
 
Out of box surface: 4000 Grit LSS
 
Layout &Ball Reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZx0JDMmn-I
 
Comparisons
 
Forza:  The original Forza was controllable and early which made it ideal for medium heavy patterns, out of the entire Forza line the original would be the snow tire of the three. Because it was a snow tire it was somewhat condition specific in terms of overall usage, the Forza GT provides a different overall ball motion and reaction. In term of encountering friction, the Forza would become lazy whereas the GT would pick up and roll through the friction. Overall the GT provided a faster and smoother reaction than the Forza.
 
Forza Redline: The Forza Redline provides a faster response time upon encountering friction as well as providing a more angular ball motion that the Forza GT overall, the difference in what the GT does upon encountering friction is the overall ball motion. The GT is not as sharp as the Forza Redline as it is smoother and provides a more controlled ball motion overall, unlike the GT the Redline is not ideal in terms of usage on heavier patterns.
 
 
 
Summary: Satisfaction at first roll is the best way I can describe the Forza GT, having the original and the Redline in the same bag I’m rather fond of the shape all three provide me with.  In terms of overall reaction the original Forza was early and controllable which made it ideal medium/heavier patterns, the Forza Redline is considered the fastest and most angular of the three, and the Forza GT is longer than the original Forza but it isn’t as sharp as the Forza Redline. A perfect fit in between the two. 

Although I didn’t include the Havoc in the video, the Havoc is earlier than the GT but it is also slower than the GT down lane.  At the end of the day Motiv has done what they’ve always done and that is giving society a product that does as advertised, and the Forza GT is just that.  If you are looking for something to play a little deeper with but with a smoother ball motion,  and if you’re a fan of controlled continuation then I encourage you to take a look at the Forza GT.

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