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Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:04:08 PM »
Our records show that you registered to receive a Limited Edition Jackal through the Ball Exchange Program.  Do not bring your bowling ball to the pro shop at this time. Hold onto your Jackal or Jackal Carnage.  As you know, we are working with the USBC and are hoping to have both balls reinstated.  If they are reinstated, we will not manufacture the Limited Edition Jackal because you would be able to use your Jackal or Jackal Carnage. 

As we have news to report regarding the reinstatement process, we will notify you.  Thank you very much for your patience and support through this process. You are greatly appreciated!
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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 05:18:11 PM »
I'm not sure who you are mad at. If the Jackal series is reinstated, you should be mad at USBC for taking a ball away that should be legal. If the ball is still deemed illegal and USBC denies Motiv's claim, Motiv is sending you an LE in exchange. So, why are you mad again?

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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2016, 05:48:08 PM »
I suspect that people were bringing Jackals to the pro shops and the pro shops don't want/ have room to store the balls.

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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2016, 06:14:48 PM »
I suspect that people were bringing Jackals to the pro shops and the pro shops don't want/ have room to store the balls.

I think what the OP is mad about, is the possibility that Motiv might get the USBC decision reversed and he'd have to keep his Jackal and not get a brand new limited edition ball.



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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 06:17:11 PM »
Don't worry. If as many Jackal and Jackal Carnage balls were illegal as Richgels' (I think) article suggested there's no chance they are reinstated.

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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 06:49:42 PM »
It is like the fat kid on the block with all of the candy.  He dangles the bag in your face, when you reach out to grab it he snatches it back.  Motiv is the fat kid.

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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 07:01:55 PM »
Got to get Motiv in the gym !

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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 07:19:44 PM »
Don't worry. If as many Jackal and Jackal Carnage balls were illegal as Richgels' (I think) article suggested there's no chance they are reinstated.

how illegal was richgels??
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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 09:51:43 PM »
Don't worry. If as many Jackal and Jackal Carnage balls were illegal as Richgels' (I think) article suggested there's no chance they are reinstated.

how illegal was richgels??

I don't remember the exact numbers, but based off some tests he or someone else did they projected like 80%+ or 90%+ of the balls out on the market to be illegal.

I have no idea how accountable that report is, but it didn't sound like a good situation at all for the balls.

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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2016, 08:39:12 AM »
The obvious concern for the bowler is that they will not get a replacement Jackal like ball any time soon. Why would usbc change their mind at this point? 

That would make them look even worst.

It appears motiv is trying to prolong the inevitable…… I imagine because of the huge $$$$$$$$ it will set them back. This has the potential to get very ugly.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2016, 05:42:10 PM »
Don't worry. If as many Jackal and Jackal Carnage balls were illegal as Richgels' (I think) article suggested there's no chance they are reinstated.

how illegal was richgels??

I don't remember the exact numbers, but based off some tests he or someone else did they projected like 80%+ or 90%+ of the balls out on the market to be illegal.

I have no idea how accountable that report is, but it didn't sound like a good situation at all for the balls.

richgels is always very honest and no-nonsense....

80-90% is bad. 

that means motiv knew about it...

cuz there has to be QC right?
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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2016, 09:40:53 PM »
My son already replaced his Jackal with a Revolt Vengeance. We both have Jackal Carnage's we are waiting on LE balls for.

I'll eat my Jackal Carnage if Motiv gets these balls legal again. Too would be too much egg on USBC's face to change their verdict now. Plus, the other ball companies will be very upset.

Motiv needs to join reality on this and just proceed with the LE.
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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2016, 11:05:00 PM »
To the original poster I don't blame you, I'd be mad too. You basically spent $200+  prob on at least one of the jackals and now motiv just wants u to sit on it. I understand u could have got it replaced for a "lesser" hooking ball but its just a no win situation.  Best of luck

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2016, 11:29:34 PM »
so wait.

customers that chose to replace their Jackal or jack Carnage can get any current line ball -for free, nib

but if u want the LE (they promised?) then u may not get a new ball, your old one will have to do.

seems like some B.S.

some get a new ball, some dont.

Motiv.... it's the cost of doing business..flat out.  they were lucky to have risen to the no.2 spot so quickly without any major downfalls til this.  it sucks, but it's bound to happen  to everyone at somepoint. 

fix the issue, and make your consumers happy...raise the price of your stuff $5 a ball rolling recoup the funds...people would still pay...they love your product...

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Re: Got this email from Motiv. NOT HAPPY!!!
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2016, 12:10:28 AM »
BD they can swap with any current ball or wait for the LE…..Motiv says they are still fighting to get the Jackals reinstated and if that happens no LE.  If not reinstated THEN they will do the LE for the remaining bowlers with Jackals not replaced.

No time table on Motivs losing battle with USBC which leaves a lot of customers hanging out to dry. They may hope several jump off and get the Trident and others with other balls and never need to make a LE.  By dragging it out it spreads out the financial hit.

The situation sucks for Motiv, but is self inflicted. Motiv is quickly losing momentum it seems with bowlers on the handling of this situation going forward.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.