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Primal Rage
« on: June 11, 2013, 08:52:34 AM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
Motiv Primal Rage Ball Specs:
- Color: Lava Red Pearl All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Coverstock: Fusion Pearl Reactive
- Core: Impulse V2
- Factory Finish: 1500 Grit / Power Gel Polish
- Reaction: Late Hook
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.55**
- Differential (Diff): 0.050**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Recommended Lane Condition: Medium-Heavy Oil
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal

Description: Introducing the new Fusion Pearl Reactive coverstock allowing the Motiv Primal Rage to have a wicked angular backend motion. Performing best in medium-heavy lane conditions this ball will pick up some length with the pearl coverstock technology. This is going to be a great ball when the lanes start to transition on you and you still want to play on steeper angles. Grab yours today!

 

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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2013, 12:12:06 PM »

Primal Rage 35 X 5 ½ X 45

Description: The Primal Rage is the 4th generation Primal that introduces a MOTIV piece with severe angularity and continuation. The Primal Rage coverstock introduces the Fusion Pearl Reactive Coverstock(OOB 1500 Grit/Polish) which is a pearlized version of the cover used on the Raptor Talon.  The Primal Rage shares the same V2 Core as used on the Primal Scream.

Reaction: The Primal Rage’s response to friction is much faster than any of MOTIV's previously releases.  This ball is able to create some steep entry angles for guys who aren’t able to do so naturally.  It doesn’t really have a best suited lane condition from what I have seen so far, although the Primal Rage is very valuable when seeing carry down.  I felt for a ball that creates so much torque off the breakpoint, I could still stay aggressive.  When I tend to go to a ball that really changes direction I feel I have to back off of it a little bit to get around the corner.  My game is based on being aggressive so to be able to create more entry angle and still stay firm fills in a special void in my arsenal.

Comparisons: The Primal Rage and Primal Scream are close in total hook, but the Scream just edges out the Rage.  The Primal Rage is cleaner than the Primal Scream allowing it to cover several more boards at the backend.  My Thrash Frenzy is more angular than my Primal Scream but isn’t as strong, so the Primal Rage falls in that spot for me.

Summary: This ball allows MOTIV to officially have a well rounded lineup....from plastic, urethane, and entry level to very angular and heavy oil arcing pieces along with everything in between!  The Primal Rage is MOTIV’s biggest release to date.  This ball is designed for everything and I mean everything! Recently we have seen the Primal Rage make 2 PBA shows, one for a 52 foot pattern and the other a 32 foot pattern!  I feel like the Primal Rage just doesn’t stop, it has continuation for days!

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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2013, 07:48:28 PM »


The video was shot on the USBC doubles and singles pattern for 2013. 

 This is the ball that impressed so many people on the PBA summer swing and brought Motiv its first national title.  The Primal Rage is able to combat many different conditions and will fit all styles of bowlers.   The first thing that I noticed after throwing this ball was how well the 10 pin got sucked out of the rack on all pocket hits.  The carry percentage for me is on the higher end making me a believer in it.  I am pretty sure I am never going to want to put this ball down.


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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2013, 10:00:37 AM »
DRILL PATTERN (S):

Ball #1 - 40 x 3 3/4 x 60 with a P3 extra hole (7/8 bit, 3" deep)
Surface: 1000-2000 grit, no polish

Ball #2 - 55 x 4 7/8 x 30 no extra hole
Surface: 2000 + polish


BOWLER STYLE:

Rev Rate: 400 RPM

Ball Speed: 19 MPH

PAP/Track: 4 3/8 left, 5/8 up

Axis Tilt: <10 degrees


LANE CONDITION:

Length: PBA Badger, PBA Bear, Regional Viper, Kegel Broadway, THS

Volume: Variety

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS and Sport


BALL REACTION

Length: 8/10

Back End: 10/10

Overall Hook: 9/10

Midlane Read: 2/10

Breakpoint Shape: 10/10


COMMENTS

Likes: I really love how angular this piece of equipment is. I couldn't believe when I threw it how fast of a response to friction this coverstock had. With the Primal Rage I am able to be as firm as I want with my speed and always feel like the ball is going to recover. It allows me to play steeper angles through the front without feeling like I have to get a handful and/or slow my ball speed down.

Dislikes: Shorter patterns are its demise unless the ratios are such that it favors moving in and banking the ball off a spot outside of 5. I could see right handers having a lot of success with this piece on short, but for me as a lefty I need smooth, predictable ball motion on these patterns 90% of the time.


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Primal Rage
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2013, 06:30:11 PM »
Lane Condition:
   Modified Kegel Stone Street

Layout:
   4 ¾” x 4”
   64* x 4 ¾” x 40*

Motiv’s newest ball gives unprecedented backend motion of longer, heavier patterns while still retaining the versatility to excel on shorter, lighter patterns.  The Primal Rage, affectionately known as the ‘red ball,’ not only looks good on the lane, its technology gives it the competitive edge.  The high RG, highly dynamic Impulse V2 core (2.55 RG, .050 Differential) is wrapped in the new Fusion pearl coverstock.  By finishing this aggressive pearl at 1500 grit + Power Gel Polish, the Rage has plenty of teeth to grip the lane through the oil while still retaining the energy needed to make an angular transition at the breakpoint.  I drilled with a slightly weaker pin distance than my Scream because I wanted something to definitively push down the lane before it made its move to the pocket.  The combination of pearl, high RG and the longer pin allow this ball to effortlessly glide through the heads.  Once the ball is in the mids I can see the higher differential kicking to flare and the ball starts to read the lane, though it still is not hooking this early.  Once my ball gets down to the breakpoint it releases its energy and makes one of the most angular moves that I have in my arsenal; the strongest for this amount of oil bar none.  I have found that this ball is extremely versatile for me.  Hook in fresh oil, skid and recovery on broken down conditions; the red ball has exceled on the large variety conditions I have thrown it on so far.  The Primal Rage: Take our your Rage!

Here is a link to my video of the Rage in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AneshhXglk

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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2013, 01:19:53 PM »
I drilled my new #Redball with my favorite layout, 65*x5”x40*. As soon as I took to the lanes and threw a few shots, it was very clear this is a special ball. The Rage is clean through the front… goes long, and hooks hard off the spot and gets through the deck like the pins are not even there. The best way I can describe the overall motion, is controlled aggression. It definitely gives me a different look than any ball I've thrown in the past.

 Compared to a similarly layed out Primal Scream, for me the Primal Rage hooks at least 7 boards more, primarily on the back end.  Since the Scream and the Rage share the same core, this tells me that the fantastic new pearl cover on the #Redball is what makes this ball extraordinary.

Here is my ball reaction video:


In the video, I bowl on the 43 foot WTBA Tokyo Pattern, and a House Shot. I compare the Primal Rage to the MOTIV Ascent Pearl, Thrash Frenzy, Venom Strike, Venom Toxin, 2 Cruel, Raptor Talon & Primal Scream.

I’ll be honest, the first few games I bowled with the Rage, I was a step or two behind on my moves – one board adjustments weren't doing it for me. Once I trusted the aggressive nature of this ball, and made confident, aggressive moves when needed throughout the session (2 and 1, 4 & 2 etc), that’s when the wow factor kicks in. My swing loosened up, and that’s a real good feeling.

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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2013, 06:48:51 PM »
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Here is my video for the MOTIV Primal Rage. ‎#redball hope you enjoy it.It was fun to make.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=px2eQxTrZEY.webloc<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/px2eQxTrZEY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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Primal Rage
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2013, 09:51:08 AM »
Rev Rate:420             
Axis Tilt:20               
Axis Rotation: 45
Ball Speed:17                 
PAP Measurements: 4 1/8 

Layout:4 x 4 1/2 (no weight hole)                             

Description: Fusion Pearl Reactive Coverstock + V2 Core = Primal Rage. Out of box the ball sits at 1500 polished.  The Primal Rage newest Primal of the Primal series that showcases phenomenal angularity and continuation. The Fusion Reactive Coverstock is the same cover that was used on the Talon.  I refer to mine as the watermelon. Why? Because the ball itself is blood red but the M logo is green, so to me it looks like a watermelon.

 

Reaction:  The first time I got to throw this ball was on a burnt open play pair, I wanted to test the angularity of the Rage so I’m standing 35 and going out 10 and I saw the strength of the ball.  The ball never lost energy throughout its entire motion, fierce continuation. The Primal Rage clears easily and once it finds what its looking for it rolls over into that continuous motion through the deck, if you want to create/play extreme angles this ball with definitely allow you to do it.

 

Conditions

THS (38 feet): I was in my comfort zone all night standing 25 targeting 15. The only moved my target the entire night from 15 to ten but I was still standing at 25. This ball feeds on friction and THS has plenty of it, you can get as deep as you want with this one without fearing that it won’t recover.

 

Paris Pattern (47 feet): A pearls natural enemy is oil but this can also be turned into strength, the rage did absolutely nothing until it reached the last 13 feet of the lane.  I was able to feed the ball into the oil and it would sit there until it encountered friction. Teamwork makes the dream work and work the Rage did. I’m all about results and apparently so is the Rage.

 

Summary:  Truth is that I have not enjoyed a Motiv ball this much since the great pumpkin (Orange Recon).  Primal Rage lives up to the hype and expectations of being everything MOTIV said it would be. Its definitely worth your time and will quickly earn a spot in your bag.


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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 09:25:18 AM »
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Motiv Primal Rage Review.

So what is all the Hype about this RED BALL? RED BALL, RED BALL , RED BALL  Is it really that good?  The answer  to this question didn’t take long for me to realize –YES it is that good!  Adding this weapon to my already strong line of MOTIV equipment is just what the doctor ordered. At some point you ask yourself what else can they come up with where could this product line go and what’s missing. Well the RED Ball- Primal Rage certainly answered that question. Absolutely the strongest , most devastating ball in the line the Primal Rage picks up where the Primal Scream left off. Incredible reaction, smooth roll and even stronger continuation through the pins. What an incredible addition to the already long and strong Thrash Frenzy as the Primal Rage brings in the ability to get in the oil and make that all so elusive left motion coming off the back of the pattern. This is the ball I’ve been waiting on for PBA event as it provides me the optimal shape and room on heavier oil conditions that are prominent at PBA stops.  I promise you won’t be disappointed with this piece as it is really that good. Come get Motiv-ated with us and experience the RED Ball everyone is talking about.

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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2013, 09:10:13 AM »
Yes, the Red Ball is out.  And it is EVERYTHING it was advertised to be (and more).  It is the strongest ball in the Motiv line.  This ball will give you the ability to get into heavy oil AND bring the ball back to the pocket with ease.  Unlike most heavy oil balls, this ball clears the fronts and will give you a motion that no other ball can give you on heavy oil.  Order yours today.  You will not be disappointed. 

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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2013, 02:10:54 PM »
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My information:
    Right Handed, Ball Speed-15mph average
    Rev Rate-280 average, Axis tilt-45degrees
    Axis tilt-15 degrees, PAP5’ over and 1’ up

Ball Drilling on tested ball:65* x 45* @ 41/4”

Ball Specs
Suggested Lanes Conditions: Medium Heavy oil
Core: Impulse V2  Coverstock: Fusion Pearl Reactive
Box finish : 1500 grit sanded and polished with MOTIV
Power Gel Polish Color: Lava Red Fusion Pearl
RG: 2.55 15lbs.  Differential: .050 15 lbs.

Lanes tested on:14 year old Proanvilanes.

I loved the Primal Scream, but wanted to see it get more length and have a bigger and more angular backend and respond quicker to friction down lane.
Well the Primal Rage is just that ball.

MOTIV just defined fast response time. The Primal Rage has the quickest response   to friction than any ball yet from MOTIV.

The Primal Rage’s response to friction is quick and very defined. The Primal Rage corners harder than the Primal Scream. The Primal Rage gets through the heads easily and starts to rev up later in the midlane. This allows it to store up all it’s  energy for a very fast and angular bakend. When the Primal Rage starts to turn the corner, there is no quit on the bakend or wiggle down lane.
The Primal Rage goes longer than the Primal Scream, but has less hook  overall throughout the entire lane than the Primal Scream. The big difference is the overall backend motion from the Primal Rage. It beats the Primal Scream by 4-5 boards.

On my higher volume 42’ house shot, the Primal Rage completely dominated the pattern. The Primal Rage got amazingly easy length through the front part of the lane, before making a very dramatic move off the friction at the breakpoint.

I started the session at 24 over 14 out to 7 at the breakpoint. The Primal Rage was great on the fresher house shot, but once the shot opened up, the down lane reaction began to be even more evident and dramatic.
Being able to move in deeper 30/18/10  and create shaper angles and having so much room for errors  was fantastic. My shots that missed right came flying back to the pocket with amazing pin carry. My shots that were pulled left held line and still hit pocket.

Going around the pattern is made a lot easier when you feel you have room for recovery, and  the ball isn’t going to roll out when it encounters to much friction up from.
I think the Primal Rage is a very versatile ball. It has the ability to handle patterns that are from medium heavy oil to medium. From   first arrow to sixth arrow.
Most styles will enjoy the Primal Rage.
http://www.motivbowling.com/products/balls/primal-rage.html

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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2013, 03:06:16 PM »

Motiv Primal Rage
Pearl Reactive
1500 Grit / Power Gel Polish
Ball Specs: Symmetric Core
Layout 55 x 3.5 x 40 (with balance hole)

Bowler Specs:
Right Hand. PAP 5 Over 3/4 up
Rev Rate 275. Tilt 20. Rotation 50.
Speed off hand 18

Review:
The New Motiv Primal Rage fills the need for a Strong Pearl Reactive. The ball looks great with Pearl Red cover and contrasting logos. The total hook is almost as much as the Primal Scream on an oily pattern, but a little more on lighter oil. I believe this is because the Rage reads dry lanes drier than the Scream.  The Rage is cleaner through the heads than the Scream. The backend motion of the Rage is very angular and the continuation is very strong. Light hits also carry very well. One thing that I noticed at my break point was how I could see the ball axis migrate when it made its move. This showed me the strength of the core matched with this cover. I tested the Rage on a fresh house shot as well as a high volume sport shot. The ball was at home on either pattern, and even though I was playing a different line, the carry was great! The Rage is very versatile for a strong pearl reactive.  We have also found this ball works well with different layouts. We have not drilled a pin down Rage but we feel the reaction will be very good.
Bowling This Month magazine gave the Primal Rage the highest backend rate ever. This rate along with the highest hook rate ever given to a ball (the Talon) shows the technology and improvements Motiv is using in manufacturing. Motiv is not sitting on old ideas and reactions, but continues to push the limits of filling bowler needs with the best ball that can be made at the time of production.

Summary:
The Rage filled a spot much needed and requested by bowlers.
Great color and contrasting logos.
Very versatile for a Strong Reactive.
This is a great piece to have if you like hook and angle.

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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2013, 08:19:15 AM »
Tester: MattyG
Speed: Medium (15+ mph down lane)
Rev Rate: 300+
Axis Rotation: Medium to low (30* to 40*)
Axis Tilt: Medium to High (12* - 20*)

Positive Axis Point: 4 1/2" right, 1/8" up

Drilling Layout: 70* X 4" X 65*

Surface: 1500 Polished, O.O.B.

Pattern: 41' THS Fresh and "second shift" league (not re-oiled)

Review:
My intention with this ball was to give me something that would utilize the length of the ball but enough flare at the end of the pattern so I should play a breakpoint a little further away than normal so I can increase my entry angle. The Primal Rage did exactly what I intended it to. I was really surprised with how much length it got even with the " pin under" layout. From all the videos I have seen of the ball I didn't want a ball that went 55' then made a left turn. That always looks cool but it never really equals any high scores for me. Instead I wanted to be able to play 6 instead of 8 at the break point and still retain enough energy to not leave splits. What I got was a ball that loves to kick corner pins all over the place. I believe it is a combination of increased speed, because of the easy length, and entry angle that is giving me such great reaction.
Either way, I love what I see.
My "new" videos are being shot in a house that just got new lanes. Although the video was the easiest I have ever shot, bowling league is a whole different story. The oil is moving from the heads to the mids in about a game. This is making the reactions with everything seem a little off. I have found that the ball will still skid through the dry fronts but because there is an increase in the mids the ball is acting like I have 100 more rev rate than I actually have. It responds so hard to the friction that it will roll out off the spot after the 2nd game. It I went with a 5" pin I wouldn't have that problem but it is not the normal condition so I am not listing it as a con.

Conclusion:
The Primal Rage is a ball that will help those of us that don't get a ball to really move HARD and QUICK off the spot. It is just a beast at kicking corner pins out. It also allows you to move in and trust the shot. I found that the deeper I played the better it reacted. If you want a ball that will hook from anywhere, on anything, you NEED a REDBALL!

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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2013, 05:11:56 PM »
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Length:Good

Volume:Heavy

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Likes:Played really deep for me around 22-25 no matter how far right I rolled the Primal Rage it not only recovered it hit the pocket high flush. I am not an staff member and have been struggling with my game just to hold an 215 avg. but I really impressed with the ball.

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Re: Primal Rage
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2013, 10:49:11 AM »
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Length: 41

Volume: medium

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


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The MOTIV Primal Rage is the latest bowling ball that MOTIV has come out with. What can I say about this bowing ball other than it’s a jaw dropper. The Primal Rage is the most angular ball MOTIV has ever made that has easy length and has incredible response on friction. The Primal Rage is built with the new Fusion Pearl Reactive cove and merging this new technology with the proven dual-density Impulse V2 core, the Primal Rage allows bowlers to play steeper angles and play more outside of their comfort zone and be more aggressive when the pattern starts transitioning. And with the tremendous continuation the Primal Rage displays, bowlers will be more confident to firm up on each shot.

INNER CORE    Impulse V2
COVERSTOCK   Fusion Pearl Reactive
FINISH      1500 Grit / Power Gel Polish

Comments:

What Can I say about this ball other than wow. I believe my first words were on twitter when I threw my first few shots was #redball wow. The Primal Rage was the first ball ever that has just left me speechless. All the hype about the Primal Rage did live up to it and more. What I really like about this ball is how smooth it is down the lane and how long it goes as well. With I guy like me that has a lot of revs, I need as much length as possible to and the Primal Rage gives me that and more. Another reason why this ball is so great is the backend motion on this ball. Bowling This Month gave the Primal Rage the biggest backend rating ever and the backend motion is not jumpy lost most huge backend balls, it’s more angular and controllable and with that, the continuation the Primal Rage has, you can get far left or right and the ball will come back. Therefore, #redball or the Primal Rage is all worth the hype and should be a definite piece in your bag.

Likes: Smooth ball motion; long with angular, continuous backend motion; vicious pin action when hitting the pocket.

Dislikes: None

I recommend this ball for all styles of bowlers.

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