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United Revolt
« on: March 16, 2017, 01:43:07 PM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
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The Motiv United Revolt is the first pearlized ball in the Revolt line of bowling balls from Motiv. This ball is ideal for medium to heavy oil conditions. The United Revolt features the Helix HFP (High Friction Pearl) Reactive coverstock as well as the low RG Vanquish core and is fine tuned with a 5000 Grit LSP finish. These features give this ball the ability to go long while transitioning easily to provide a consistent strong backend motion with continuation.

Color: Grey Pearl/Lime Pearl
Core: Vanquish
Coverstock: Helix HFP Reactive
Finish: 5000 Grit LSP
Recommended Lane Condition: Medium-Heavy Oil
RG: 2.47 (for 15# ball)
Differential: 0.056 (for 15# ball)

 

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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2017, 08:33:35 PM »

LANE CONDITION

Length: 41'

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

I was a fan of the original Covert Revolt and for me the Revolt Vengeance has been one of the best balls I've ever used, so when I found out about the new United Revolt I was really excited, and after using the ball for the last couple of weeks I can say that this ball will be in my bag from now on.

This ball reminds me of the Covert Revolt, but with more length and a stronger backend motion. Is not as clean and sharp as the Vengeance, but still pretty strong down the lane.

For me it has been the perfect ball when I want to keep the pocket in front of me but I need more shape down the lane. I can also open up the lane with this ball and I see a lot of recovery. Is not as angular as the Primal Fear, but on the other hand it offers me more control at the break point, being a bit smoother than the Primal Fear.

I've been using this ball for about two weeks now and it has been the perfect ball when my Jackal Ghost or my Chronic Paranoia start hooking too much or creating too much friction. The United Revolt gives me more length without being too long and it gives me that extra kick I need when I don't see enough motion down the lane.

I tried the ball with the out of the box surface (5000 LSP) and with this surface, the ball fits right in between the Trident and the Chronic Paranoia. Its also smoother than the Primal Fear at the break point, while still provides similar length.

When I changed the surface to this ball to 3000 Abralon, the ball is about 5-7 feet earlier, have a stronger midlane read but still offers me a strong backend motion. Also with this finish I was able to use this ball on fresh and use it all night by just making little adjustments.

I tried the ball on the Beaten Path oil pattern during practice and I was able to play around 10, keeping the pocket in front of me and the ball rolled great. Offered me a lot of recovery even on this pattern and had enough energy to make a strong move to the pocket.

This ball is a great option for bowlers who want length and control the breakpoint while still having a strong backend motion and for bowlers who need to ball down when your heavy oil ball begin to produce too much friction.

If you liked the Covert Revolt or the Revolt Vengeance, you are definitely gonna love this ball.

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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2017, 07:04:12 AM »
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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2017, 02:28:22 PM »

This ball is the newest introduction into the Revolt line of bowling balls. The MOTIV United Revolt features the Helix HFP Reactive coverstock combined with the Vanquish core. It's clean through the front of the lane, reads the mid-lane and makes a strong continuous arching motion through the pins,  It’s the pearlized ball I’ve been looking for.

It will be a great fit in your bag on medium oil. It’s a pearl ball that clears the fronts, yet doesn’t miss the mid-lane.  It’s strong off the spot, but yet not too angular and has the continuation through the pins that MOTIV balls are known for.

My United is laid out with the pin above the fingers, just to the right of center, the CG slightly kicked right and has extra hole in my axis. Plain and simple this ball gives me a shape that I haven’t seen in a pearlized ball.  It gives me an arching and continuous shape you would usually only find in a solid, combined with the clean fronts that pearl balls are known to have.  Seems like a GREAT combination to me.  This ball is going to get A LOT of play for me on medium oil, on a variety of different shape patterns.

Craig Auerbach
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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 02:56:09 PM »
Layout:
80 x 5 x 70

The revolution continues in bold fashion with the Motiv United Revolt. This is the first pearl shell (Helix HFP, 5000LSP) to be wrapped around the proven Vanquish core (2.47RG, .056Diff) which brings a fresh look to the lineup (not to mention the vibrant color scheme). Throughout the different shots I have thrown this on I see many similarities in ball motion to the previous Revolts of the line, which is a good thing, while also adding its own unique characteristics to bring diversity to the name. Where I see similarities the most are in the midlane and the pin deck. The Vanquish core provides a strong engine to help the ball read the mids well giving traction even in the fresher/heavier conditions. This traction-motion also provides the ball solid continuation through the pin deck, keeping up with the precedent set by its older brothers. Conversely, where I see the new characteristics take over are in the heads and at the breakpoint. The Helix coverstock allows this ball to glide through the heads easily, something my solid Covert had issues with at times, thereby saving more energy for further down lane. Once at the breakpoint there is a strong, but not snappy, motion made. This quicker transition allows the United to be used from deeper angles compared to the rest of the line. I have found that mine works quite well on the fresh (for added teeth on slightly heavier conditions I have used 1500 for the surface) and allows me to continue well into game two before I switch to a great compliment: the Primal Fear. By comparison, the United allows you to cut through the oil with straighter angles which will then open up the lane for the Fear to bounce off of that track further inside. If you need something to clear the heads yet give strong control in the mids and at the breakpoint for heavier shots, the United Revolt is a solid (for a pearl) option.

Trent Overbey
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United Revolt
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2017, 11:15:43 AM »
Rev Rate: 500
Axis Tilt: 25
Axis Rotation: 45
Ball Speed:17
PAP Measurements: 4 1/8
Core: Vanquish
Coverstock: Helix HFP Reactive
Finish: 5000 Grit LSP

As a huge fan of the Revolt Series I was thrilled to know that we decided to create a pearl version of the greatness that is the Revolt Series, the only thing that looks better than the color scheme of the United Revolt is the ball motion it provides. My first impression of the United Revolt was the opposite of what the original left me with, it provided me with more skid and had a stronger roll down lane into the backends

In comparison to the Vengeance the UR isn’t angular nor does it snap exiting the pattern, it isn’t something I would consider cornering the lanes with as I would the Vengeance as that is what it was made to do. In comparison to the Havoc the UR isn’t as big or early upfront as that is where the Havoc displays the majority of its muscle, the UR is longer and the majority of its muscle is displayed down lane. Although the United Revolt does have midlane muscle it is not the extent of what the Havoc provides.

The first time I threw the United Revolt the first quality that grabbed me was how much length I got out of it, easily the longest Revolt of the Fantastic Four. The Helix coverstock allows the UR to clear the heads more easily than the covers of the Original, Vengeance, and Havoc.  The second quality I noticed about the UR was what it did exiting the pattern, the UR doesn’t snap off the pattern as pearls tend to do instead of a snap reaction you will get a continuous roll ball motion.  The third quality I admire about the UR is its versatility in terms of cover adjustment as I have used this ball at box and have also gone over it with burgundy/green scotch brite pads, with moderate surface I the UR reminded me of the Original and with heavy surface it reminded me of the Havoc (to a lesser extent) . Both surfaces did provide me with better traction encountering heavier flatter patterns where I needed more end over end roll, where I in most cases I would use my Remix I used my UR achieving desirable results . 

Adding surface to the UR will roughly make it roll 5-7 boards sooner than at box and will also be accompanied by a stronger midlane roll, being in love with the Havoc I was rather fond of this.  On top of the early roll you will still get the backend motion out of the UR, adding surface doesn’t diminish its progression down lane. The United Revolt can serve as your benchmark ball  (if you don’t have one), sitting in between the Fear and Havoc, I also feel that it complements the Chronic  Paranoia  as well granted that the UR cover  is both faster and cleaner overall and has a bigger core.  There is nothing like a bowling ball that does as advertised. The United Revolt is everything I imagined it would be, clean and continuous be it at box or with surface the ball did exactly as advertised.  Do yourself a favor and pledge your allegiance to the United Revolt of Motiv.

Your game will thank you for it.

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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2017, 09:54:39 PM »
Ball Specs and Layout:
Vanquish Core
Helix HFP Reactive Coverstock
5000 Grit LSP
50 x 4 7/8 x 45

Bowler Stats:
Rev Rate – 425
Ball Speed – 17 mph (down-lane)
PAP – 3 ½ over, ¾ up
Right-handed

Test Environment:
Fresh 42’ THS

Review:
The United Revolt is the perfect fit within the Revolt name. With the help of the Vanquish core, The United has an a similar midlane read as the previous Revolts and now with more backend. While the pearl cover will give the United a touch more length, it has a unique reaction that some will find a wide range of use for it.

Likes:
Predictable ball motion
Great for lanes with fast backends


Dislikes:
None

Summary:
The United Revolt has quickly become a favorite of mine. For house and sport patterns, it has a ball roll that some will find it to be a benchmark piece for them. The United will be an unbelievable 1-2 punch with any of the other balls in the current lineup. Personally, it is the perfect fit in between my Primal Fear and Chronic Paranoia – especially how quickly it reads the lanes but with a controlled and angular backend shape.

Darryl Carreon
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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2017, 09:22:51 AM »
Review:

The United Revolt is the newest release from MOTIV Bowling Products. This is the first time MOTIV has introduced a pearl version in the revolt line that is great for medium to heavy oil conditions. Once again MOTIV brings the low RG Vanquish core and introduces the new Helix HFP Reactive cover stock. This combo gives the bowlers throwing the United Revolt very good length during transition period on the lanes and provides strong backend motion through the pins on a consistent basic. If you loved the revolt line or any other MOTIV product then you will love the United Revolt.

INNER CORE      Vanquish
COVER STOCK    Helix HFP Reactive
Finish               5000 Grit LSP

Comments:

I hope like most I have been waiting for a pearl version in the line and the United Revolt not only filled that void, its performance is almost mind blowing. To me this is a pearl version of the Revolt Vengeance and you ask any one that has been one the best bowling balls I have ever own and  the United Revolt give me that something I was missing in my bag. The Untied Revolt provides me the length I was missing with previous revolts and still have the pop in the back end to strike at will. At first, the box finish was a little to shinny for me, but I took a 1000 grit pad and lightly scratched the surface and boy what a huge difference. Lower ball speed players though my want to try box finish at first to make it more controllable and go from there. This is a great piece for fresh conditions and during transition when your angles are becoming too angular and want to calm it down a bit without losing energy through the pins.

Likes: Excellent length and consistent backend motion through the pins. Benchmark
Dislikes: None

I recommend this bowling ball for all types of bowlers

MOTIV Staff Player,
John Robertson
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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2017, 11:15:14 AM »
BOWLER INFO

Name: Will Schnack
Rev Rate: 350 rpms
Ball Speed: 17.5 mph
PAP: 4 5/8" over 1/2" up
Right Handed

LANE CONDITION

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

COMMENTS

INNER CORE
Vanquish
COVERSTOCK
Helixâ„¢ HFP Reactive
FINISH
5000 Grit LSP
RG: 2.47 (15# ball)
Diff: .056 (15# ball)

The United Revolt is a wonderful addition to the Motiv family.  The ball has a semi early roll to it with a good backend pick up to it.  Not to angular and not to smooth, a nice combination of both.  The United Revolt fits nicely in between my Octane Carbon and Jackal Ghost.  It works well for me when I get lost when the lanes start to transition and I get too much of a wet/dry reaction.  Unite and Take Over.

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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 12:37:43 PM »
The United Revolt makes a great addition to the Revolt line bringing us a pearl for the first time.

This addition now gives us a ball with the smooth continuous core we loved in the original revolt and havoc revolt but with the great clean through the front part of the lane cover we need in a pearl.

This ball gives you the down lane angle you need as a step up from a chronic paranoia or a forza GT when they start to labor down lane. This will be your go to ball on the medium to heavy oil patterns when they start to transition and you want to take the front part of the lane out of play.

Likes:
Smooth midlane reaction with angular down lane motion
Color combination
Continuation

Dislikes:
None

Plus, who wouldn't love those colors! I even have a jersey with matching colors on its way!

Cody Shoemaker
Motiv Staffer
Pure It Pro Shop
Pennsylvania

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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2017, 01:08:17 AM »
MOTIV UNITED REVOLT
Ball Specifications:

ITEM NUMBER   MTVBRUGLP
INNER CORE   Vanquish
COVERSTOCK   Helixâ„¢ HFP Reactive
FINISH   5000 Grit LSP
WEIGHTS      16   15   14   13   12
RG RATING      2.46   2.47   2.50   2.56   2.63
RG DIFFERENTIAL   .057   .056   .056   .044   .030               
FLARE POTENTIAL   5"+

Bowler Info:

Hand: Right
Weight: 15
PAP: 5 ½ > ¾ ^
Rev Rate: 460
Speed: 17mph
Track: High
Layout – Dual Angle 55x5x35
Weight Hole – None
Favorite Surface – 2000 with MOTIV Power Gel Polish

Summary:

The MOTIV United Revolt is the first Pearl offered in the very popular Revolt line of bowling balls. The combination of the new Helix HFP Reactive technology cover and the low RG Vanquish core gives me versatility across many lane conditions and various lane surfaces. From House to Sport and to Tournament play, I always seem to find a spot in my bag for this monster of a ball. Playing straight up the boards or covering them all left to right, I do not see any lack of performance out of the United Revolt in the 2 months I’ve been using it regularly. During tournaments, I am very confident to switch to this ball once my Jackal Ghost starts to run out of energy in the middle of a block. The layout I used places the pin right above my ring finger with about a 2-inch shift of the CG from the Grip Centerline. This creates added versatility for me because no matter where I’m looking down lane or where I am standing, I know this ball will come roaring back and hit with a ton of energy. If you’re looking for a ball that can do it all, look no further than the United Revolt. Pick one up today at your local Pro Shop, and start a revolution!
Scott “Scotty” Wiley
MOTIV & VISE Staff
D.Y.'s Pro Shop
Colorado Springs & Pueblo, CO

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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2017, 02:34:23 PM »
       Where to begin the review of this highly anticipated release. The need for a medium heavy oil ball with a pearl cover stock and low RG is a must in my opinion. The reality of the day is we are seeing more and more oil and longer patterns. So how do we control the break point without having a ball that over reads the mid lane. The answer to this is the United.
       My initial opinion of this ball is well, truly amazing. There have been a few pieces over the years that have transcended and lived a life of there own. The Sigma Tour, Original Primal Rage and the Venom Shock come to mind. So does this ball fit in the conversation of truly transcendent equipment? Only time will tell.

       First thing I noticed about the United was the amazing color combination. The next thing I noticed was the Cover, the cover has a different feel to the cover. The feel isn't like most shinny pearl, there is a texture to cover. The United has a great core/cover combination. The Low Rg core and the strong pearl cover combine to get what I feel is the signature Motiv Roll. The heavy roll, mid lane control and break point movement. This roll is what brought me to Motiv in the first place and the roll I truly love. This roll is a wonderful blend of control and skid flip.

      I drilled this ball with 55 X 4.75 x 60 lay out P3 motion hole placement. The lay out design for myself was to keep the ball controllable, yet be able to stand in the puddle and use the bump. What I have found thus far is the need for some wax in the front part of the lane in order to get the United to the spot down lane. Without wax in the front the ball will burn up and not finish as well. I am really excited to see how this ball transitions over time and can not wait to see how this ball stacks up against some of the aforementioned greats.

Clayton Mohr
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Re: United Revolt
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2017, 11:30:31 AM »
Bob Benton
Maryland

Motiv United Revolt (http://www.motivbowling.com/products/balls/united-revolt.html)
70 x 5 x 35 (2000 Abralon)

Personal Stats:
400-450 RPM
18-20 MPH
PAP - 5 5/8" over, 1" up
Axis Tilt - Estimated 8-12 Degrees
Current League Average: 238

Intended Use:
I wasn't sure what to expect out of my United Revolt. The other Revolts I drilled were all notorious for strong controllable motion. A pearl cover on this ball led me to putting a pin-over-the-fingers layout on it, looking for a strong, but angular motion on heavier volume/longer patterns. 

Reaction:
With the pin-up layout, the United Revolt nailed what I was looking for. In terms of pure boards covered, this piece is near the top of my bag on longer patterns. The United Revolt allows me to play more left to right than balls like the Jackal Ghost or Primal Rage Remix.

Overall:
If I need angle on a longer pattern, this is my go-to. The United Revolt brings a unique motion to the med-heavy oil category in the Motiv line. I have used this ball on everything from 35ft to 47ft and it doesn't disappoint, always delivering entry angle to strike.