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CoorZero

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Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« on: April 10, 2016, 01:58:05 PM »
Has anybody thrown or seen these on the lanes yet? I was bored and browsing through bowlingball.com and one of them popped up at the bottom of my search results list. Never heard of them before and it looks like they just started making balls for the American market this year.

Some of the cores look pretty interesting and not too generic. Of course the price point is probably their main draw right now, but I don't really care to much about that. I haven't found a website for them yet although this is in the description on the balls listed:

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Although Professional Bowling System (PBS) is a new player in the United States bowling market, we are not new to the bowling industry at all.  For decades, PBS has been a major bowling manufacturer and distributor across Asia.  We have designed and produced High Performance and Polyester bowling equipment for many of the major U.S. bowling brands - driving many technology and production advancements.  And, as a key global distributor, we continue to help U.S. manufacturers reach the ever-growing Asian bowling market.  From advanced Research and Development, to in-depth consumer analysis, PBS creates the bowling equipment that people need in today’s modern game.

Here's the link to the ones available on bowlingball.com:

http://www.bowlingball.com/shop/pbs/bowling-balls/?sort=newest

The Horseshoe in particular seems interesting given that the numbers indicate that the core is fairly strong, but the Perfect Scale (yeah, I don't put a ton of stock in that particular category either but it's generally not too far off) is only 119.3 and it's a medium-dry lanes ball.

 

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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2016, 02:22:50 PM »
Interesting, there's a stronger core weaker cover ball for the thread someone started

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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2016, 07:17:29 PM »
They're the same cores used in some of the bowlers paradise /elite/house brands...

I imagine it's the same company.  Maybe bowlers paradise didn't order more from them?
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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2016, 08:16:28 PM »
They're the same cores used in some of the bowlers paradise /elite/house brands...

I imagine it's the same company.  Maybe bowlers paradise didn't order more from them?

Interesting. I've never really paid attention to those other ones before so I didn't recognise the core similarities. After going through the approved list I noticed one of the aforementioned PBS balls was listed as far back as 2013 and some in 2014, so I guess they're not really new. Justing popping up for sale/review on a popular site now.

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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2016, 12:28:49 PM »
Core shapes are just marketing, all that really matters are the numbers. 
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2016, 02:27:00 PM »
Core shapes are just marketing, all that really matters are the numbers. 

Well and the cover, surface prep and lane surface
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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2016, 10:58:19 AM »
I picked up a Horseshoe because I was wanted to see how 14lb felt and reacted without investing in a high end ball first since I was thinking about dropping down from 15.  The ball is surprisingly strong for me.  Nice length and a good hard move in the backend.  Now I rip the cover off the ball so I probably am not the best person to offer a review, but it is certainly stronger than the tropical breezes and the Roto Grip Shout I throw.  I drilled it pin in ring finger.

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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2016, 03:47:48 PM »
I just picked up a Horseshoe and a Pocketability. Haven't had a chance to use them a whole three games yet. I will post a review soon though.

In practice, with the cover at 1000, that Horseshoe is no dryish lane ball at all. There is no comparison, OOB to a Tropical Breeze, at all. Tropical Heat, maybe. I will have to adjust the cover for sure. It is surprisingly strong!
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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2016, 02:22:57 PM »
So it sounds like bowlingball.com's Perfect Scale is off by quite a bit regarding the Horseshoe. What a shocker.  ;D

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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2016, 03:02:42 PM »
Seems to me all ball companies are like that.They must not know what we bowl on in the south.Entry level balls are to strong most of the time.

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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2016, 01:42:10 PM »
Alrighty.....here it is:

PBS- Horseshoe- 15lbs. 3/4oz. top weight; 3.5 inch pin
I drilled it in one of my favorite drillings, pin under the ring finger, cg stacked. I like this drilling because it gives me an early read on the lanes up front, and then backs off on the backend......allowing me to add or reduce hand as needed. (probably a 4 x 4.5 drill)

On a regular medium THS, OOB, this ball was standing up half-way down the lane! I was like....WOW! Didn't expect this at all. One of the reasons I went after this ball is because the core is tried and true! I knew that if the core/cover combo was a good match, it might really be winner!

Anyway after seeing that initially, took it to my spinner with some UFO polish; hit it for 15 seconds, all six sides. It was not a marble, but it was shiny for sure.

Used it in early practice before league play and every shot on the fresh was a strike! Getting in around the side, and making it arc....strike! Coming up the back.....more angularity....strike! Using my more traditional heavy oil release.....strike! I should have used it early in league play after that, but I am superstitious about getting nothing but strikes during warm-ups. Too many times I have thrown nothing but strikes during warm-ups and then struggled with a ball all night long. LOL!

Anyway, the shot was about a 40' medium oil shot. Grinded out a 191, the first game and then struggled with transition using my normally dependable Prodigy. After only getting one strike and an open in the first five frames of the second game, I switched to the Horseshoe. Took a minute to get lined up, but finished with a 182.

Keeping it simple, and coming up the back of the ball, it gave me a nice push to the pocket. The angularity allowed me to open up the lanes, and the backend revs on the ball were obvious as seen by the whirling colors before hitting the pocket.

I LIKE this ball. The third game I moved further left, and proceeded to destroy the pocket, throwing the front seven. The ball in the eighth was a little soft, and I flat-tenned. Anyway finished out with a 268 on the broken down pattern.

This ball is superb. Not what I was expecting at all. I do not believe this is a light oil ball, but it may be for folks who throw it 17mph and up. The read was great and very predictable. I like that I can get more than one hook-shape out of it. This is definitely a winner in my book and worth what I paid for it. It has already paid for itself, two times over. If you can find one....get one!

Finally got to play with the Pocketablity as well, this past Monday night.
This ball is 15lbs. 2.5oz. of top weight, with a 3" pin. I drilled it pretty conventional, pin over ring with cg stacked below. The cover is 1000 abralon also. I liked this one right out the gate! I could swing this one on the fresh shot or play semi-direct. Ball has good angularity going to the pocket and the carry is pretty good. Considering it's a NEW ball, I guess carry should be good!

I played with it on a fresh THS and it was great. It gave a very easy read of the lanes, and got to the pocket just as easily. This ball was in OOB condition, and it is definitely a keeper. It did not have as much initial angularity as the Horseshoe, but  it had enough to carry well. It did NOT, "Hit like a truck"! I got a lot of push straight back strikes, and a lot of swisher strikes as well. All in all, I think this is a very versatile piece of equipment, depending on drilling. I will not alter this surface since I like it just as it is. I am rev dominant, and usually roll in the mid 13-14 mph range.

I only shot a low two hundred game with it, but that was because I was playing three different lines and testing it's limits. I believe this ball will be another, great "Bang for the Buck" piece. If anyone has questions that I didn't think of, hit me up! It seems, no one makes "bad" equipment nowadays!

Hope this helps!
« Last Edit: April 19, 2016, 02:12:41 PM by Jesse James »
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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2016, 02:49:09 PM »
I bought the blue/orange Horseshoe and had bowlingball.com drill it using the specs I sent and with the ADT grip. I used it the first time yesterday in our senior doubles leagues. Layout is pin above the bridge. Wow, I was really impressed and the ball reaction and I was able to use it all three games, of course it's a doubles league. I have the front 7 and brain got in the way, 257. I ended 257, 258, 244= 759 for the maiden voyage and not bad for a 60y/o senior!
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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2016, 07:05:12 PM »
On the basis of the positive feedback from this thread, I purchased a Blue/Lemon PBS Horseshoe. I received delivery of it today.

1. The weight said 14 lbs. 1 oz. I measured 14 lbs. 4 oz, with an accurate postal-type scale.
2. The box in which it came and the web site, http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/pbs/12437/horseshoe-bluelemon.html, said its surface should be 2000 grit polished. It came 2000 grit.

Separately, I would not worry about such minor details. Together, I am worried, what did I get from China? Whatever it is, it is my fault for ordering on such an inconsequential basis. Sigh. When will I learn?

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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2016, 07:57:40 PM »
You know, it might actually be listed wrong on bowlingball.com. The description says 2000 grit polished but the picture accompanying the listing sure looks like it's a ball with surface to me.

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Re: Professional Bowling System (PBS) Balls
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2016, 11:07:40 PM »
On the basis of the positive feedback from this thread, I purchased a Blue/Lemon PBS Horseshoe. I received delivery of it today.

1. The weight said 14 lbs. 1 oz. I measured 14 lbs. 4 oz, with an accurate postal-type scale.
2. The box in which it came and the web site, http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/pbs/12437/horseshoe-bluelemon.html, said its surface should be 2000 grit polished. It came 2000 grit.

Separately, I would not worry about such minor details. Together, I am worried, what did I get from China? Whatever it is, it is my fault for ordering on such an inconsequential basis. Sigh. When will I learn?

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You kinda jumped over board quickly. As mentioned it appears BB.com got it wrong because it clearly looks sanded in the pics. The blue/orange definitely looks polished. Your "shipping scale" maybe off or not recently calibrated as well. 

Before letting buyers remorse cloud your judgment, drill the ball and go have fun. You got a great looking ball at a great price. Get us some good on lane results
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