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thewhiz

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what are the pba tour finals
on: May 29, 2017, 10:28:01 AM
I see on CBS sports network pba has a tour finals event round 1.  Is that live.  If not when did they do the matches.

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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #31 on: June 19, 2017, 04:37:06 PM
That was over 30 years ago.  A couple hundred thousand dollars isn't set you up for life money. 


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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #32 on: June 21, 2017, 10:23:10 AM
That's my point.  10 years on tour with multiple titles and he probably didn't make 300K during that time.  The other tough thing is that, unlike golf, there is no real way to make a decent livelihood in the game after a successful tour run. 

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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #33 on: June 21, 2017, 10:40:23 AM
If he made 300k, imagine how much he had to pay his backers. Horsies have to pay up!
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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #34 on: June 21, 2017, 11:06:54 AM
Nobody is forced to bowl on Tour.  It's an alternative for the guys allergic to work.

If someone spends 10 years bowling and doesn't figure out what they are going to do when they get done then they are just not very smart.  And if they spend 10 years and aren't at least making some get a head in life money they spent 7 years to long doing it. 

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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #35 on: June 21, 2017, 11:07:34 AM
Heck probably in 5 years a person will be able to make more money playing some bowling e-sport (fapping motion) video game than the real thing sadly.  Bless those Millennial hearts.
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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #36 on: June 21, 2017, 11:58:51 AM
Heck probably in 5 years a person will be able to make more money playing some bowling e-sport (fapping motion) video game than the real thing sadly.  Bless those Millennial hearts.

That's already the case. Maybe not with bowling just yet, but probably.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/gaming/2017/06/21/professional-esports-becoming-more-lucrative/413662001/
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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #37 on: June 21, 2017, 02:04:29 PM
IMHO the number of bowlers that could make a living off the tour by season based on approx. $50k a year. 

*Not factoring in personal sponsorship's

2004-2005: Top 38
2005-2006: Top 38
2006-2007: Top 22
2007-2008: Top 25
2008-2009: Top 26
2009-2010: Top 20
2010-2011: Top 15
2011-2012: Top 9
2012-2013: Top 19
2014: Top 21
2015: Top 26
2016: Top 23

2011-2012 took a major hit.
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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #38 on: June 21, 2017, 02:46:47 PM
The $50k mark isn't even close.  Try 75 or 80 to compare it to earning $40k at regular job.

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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #39 on: June 21, 2017, 03:16:58 PM
The $50k mark isn't even close.  Try 75 or 80 to compare it to earning $40k at regular job.

Why a $35-40k gap?
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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #40 on: June 21, 2017, 03:25:32 PM
Expenses.  Entry fees, hotel, food, rental car, flights, gas, drilling fees, transport fees.  Back when there was 30-35 events a year guys would average about $1000 a week in expenses.  And that is on the cheap side.  There were guys that definitely spent more.

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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #41 on: June 21, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
True. With the extremely trimmed down number of events, I have to imagine that number has dropped some. $35-40k sounds like steak dinners every night lol
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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #42 on: June 21, 2017, 04:55:22 PM
Except all the money stats for recent years include the WBT, regionals, sr and sr regionals.  The PBA does everything it can to make the numbers look better than they really are.   

Ask somebody like Mike Devaney how PBA life as a two time champion was when he didn't even have enough money to get to Detroit for a guaranteed check.


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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #43 on: June 21, 2017, 05:13:21 PM
Here's a good example that everyone isn't eating steak.  Mike Fagan averaged about $75k for the 10 years he bowled and quit in 2015 to go back to school (arguably at the peak of his career).  His last 3 full time years were $116k, 90k, 116k.  I'm sure he would tell you he wasn't living 25k a year above a good living.

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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #44 on: June 21, 2017, 05:39:37 PM
Expenses.  Entry fees, hotel, food, rental car, flights, gas, drilling fees, transport fees.  Back when there was 30-35 events a year guys would average about $1000 a week in expenses.  And that is on the cheap side.  There were guys that definitely spent more.

 
Exactly. More for fun than anything else, I do the PBA50 swing in Las Vegas every year. It's turning into more of a "Hall of Fame" swing for the guys who camped out on PBA telecasts in the late 90's.
 
There is no real money in these events. What you can make at the Sr. US Open and the Sr. US Masters was a monthly paycheck at my day job before I retired. I wonder if most of these guys have been reduced to scraping a living in proshops and giving lessons is all that they have left.
 
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Re: what are the pba tour finals
Reply #45 on: June 21, 2017, 05:55:37 PM
When I started at Elite there were 2 PBA Hall of Fame members on staff.  One had his monthly check overnighted to him and the other had to use the company credit card to book his plane tickets instead of being reimbursed.  It was actually kind of sad to see a couple guys you grew up emulating reduced to that.