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Start of a New Era
« on: May 14, 2015, 02:07:38 PM »
WELCOME BACK LADIES!!!!. We are glad to see You back.

 

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Re: Start of a New Era
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2015, 06:28:59 PM »
The fact this thread isn't getting much traction kind of tells the story, look, I want the ladies to succeed just as much as you two do, but, I think your rose colored glasses and being stuck in the "glory years" time portal prohibit you from looking at this realistically. I mean a story  was brought up from 1994 for Christs sake!!!

Basing the PWBA's success on the activity of this thread isn't a real measuring stick. I would think it's safe to assume everyone on this board or at least a majority wants the PWBA tour to be a success. That doesn't mean that they have to come to this thread and gush about how happy or excited they are.

Then what is the measuring stick? One can surmise, lots of views + no response= no tangible interest.
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Re: Start of a New Era
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2015, 06:55:21 PM »
The fact this thread isn't getting much traction kind of tells the story, look, I want the ladies to succeed just as much as you two do, but, I think your rose colored glasses and being stuck in the "glory years" time portal prohibit you from looking at this realistically. I mean a story  was brought up from 1994 for Christs sake!!!

Basing the PWBA's success on the activity of this thread isn't a real measuring stick. I would think it's safe to assume everyone on this board or at least a majority wants the PWBA tour to be a success. That doesn't mean that they have to come to this thread and gush about how happy or excited they are.

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Re: Start of a New Era
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2015, 07:37:17 PM »
The fact this thread isn't getting much traction kind of tells the story, look, I want the ladies to succeed just as much as you two do, but, I think your rose colored glasses and being stuck in the "glory years" time portal prohibit you from looking at this realistically. I mean a story  was brought up from 1994 for Christs sake!!!

I'm still friends with those people now. 21 years later. Leanne owned the pro shop I go to. I still talk to the others. When you haven't seen them for 15+ years, and they still come up to you and know you by name out of the years and years of meeting tons of people, that is a bigger success than anything negative that can be said.

You call it an old story; are you still friends with people you met 20 years ago?  People who have gone from who you simply watched on TV and idolized, to being your FRIENDS?

Bigger success than you can ever imagine.

And this thread is what you are basing it on? You do realize that this place isn't even a blip on the barometer of how many people are interested in the PWBA? If there wasn't the interest all around, there wouldn't have been the effort to bring the PWBA back. I already know that in my area, interest is through the roof, despite for my local stop, Liz and Kelly won't be there, because it is occurring at the same time as the Japan Cup.

So don't think that this place is the be all/end all for interest in the PWBA, because it isn't.

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Re: Start of a New Era
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2015, 07:41:36 PM »
The fact this thread isn't getting much traction kind of tells the story, look, I want the ladies to succeed just as much as you two do, but, I think your rose colored glasses and being stuck in the "glory years" time portal prohibit you from looking at this realistically. I mean a story  was brought up from 1994 for Christs sake!!!

Basing the PWBA's success on the activity of this thread isn't a real measuring stick. I would think it's safe to assume everyone on this board or at least a majority wants the PWBA tour to be a success. That doesn't mean that they have to come to this thread and gush about how happy or excited they are.

Then what is the measuring stick? One can surmise, lots of views + no response= no tangible interest.

Lots of views + no response = nothing constructive to say.

I read almost all new posts that come up. If I see them and have nothing constructive or an additional inquiry then I just don't say anything. No response doesn't mean no interest all the time.
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Re: Start of a New Era
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2015, 11:43:18 PM »
North Face I TOTALLY disagree. The whole fun of the Tours is to see Your favorite Bowler/Bowlers in person. To get their Autograph. To party with them. My Wife and I went to a MD. Tournament years ago and partied with the Ladies after Qualifying. It looks like a lot of Young Ladies now and it is nice to see the older ones too. Its just what Bowling might need. The PBA is struggling because noone wants to see cockiness and arrogance. The Ladies do much better with Fans. It will not fold this time.

THIS.

It was a crapshoot to be able to sit down and talk with the guys on the PBA, just based on their attitude from how well or poorly they bowled that day. You just didn't know if you could approach them.

The first time the ladies came to Omaha in 1994, not only was I nervous as hell trying to walk over to say hi to the woman I idolized the most on the tour (Dana Miller-Mackie), I couldn't even get the words out of my mouth that I would like her autograph. Not only did she actually come up to me and introduce herself to me because I was so nervous, she walked me over to introduce me to Lisa Wagner, Anne Marie, and Aleta Sill, which I got a good 20 minutes of face time each with them. I supported Dana throughout that tournament that at the end of it, she left me her Rhino RE, which I still have. We've been friends ever since.

The following year, it was Liz Johnson, Sue Jeziorski, Feldman, Jodi Woessner, and Tammy Turner.

All of this comes home to roost, when you've seen and known them long enough that after that day's bowling, they invite you to dinner with all of them, and you get to know them as PEOPLE, not just bowlers on TV.

You can't get that with Xtra Frame.

The main reasons the PWBA folded at time was that they lost two major sponsors: Sam's Town didn't renew their contract, and National Airlines went bankrupt. National was owned by Michael Conway, who was also on the Senior Tour. They sponsored a lot of their tournaments after Sam's Town left, and National struggled hard after 9/11, especially seeing that they were based in Vegas. They folded a year later, with the PWBA folding 9 months after National.

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I 100% agree. The PWBA is a lot more fun. True Ladies True Professionals

Sue Jeziorski.  Definitely a great person, glad to call her a friend, and she has been drilling my stuff for over 5 years now.  She introduced me to Liz Johnson a few years ago when I dropped by the shop to drop some balls off to be worked on.  That night, there was a Christmas party about to start when I was about to leave the place.  This was around the time where she rejoined Storm after being with EBI for a few seasons.  Needless to say, I was invited to join both for an impromptu dinner at the table and spent a good deal of the night talking bowling among other things. 

As a kid, the best 2 moments came from bowling with Richie Wolfe in Canandaigua, NY back in 1991 and then me and my dad having a coffee with Norm Duke that same year.  We didn't realize we were sitting next to him in the bleachers at first, but he was very cool to talk with and probably spent a good 20 minutes with him.  I also remember being super nervous to be meeting them and asking for their autographs.  But, I really enjoyed it and I still have at least one of the booklets they gave everyone where I was able to get many autographs.

The one person I didn't like was Harry Sullins, who acted like a jackass the entire time.  Then again, he definitely didn't make the top 5, so that's probably a good reason why that was the way it was.

Between both years I was at the pro-am, I ended up with Richie Wolfe, Norm Duke, Don Moser, WRWJ, Mike Scroggins, and I can't remember the 6th guy.  Needless to say, I still remember that 20 years later means something.
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Re: Start of a New Era
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2015, 09:57:37 AM »
The one person I didn't like was Harry Sullins, who acted like a jackass the entire time.  Then again, he definitely didn't make the top 5, so that's probably a good reason why that was the way it was.
No, Tommy, it's because Harry was, is, and always will be a jackass. I spent enough time around him when I bowled regionals and know this all too well.