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BRCanada

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Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« on: March 03, 2014, 06:25:25 AM »
we got to test it yesterday on our house shot. we expected it to be a little stronger overall than the untamed (as radical stated) but it wasn't so much stronger, but a totally different shape, starting to roll in a much earlier, smoother, stronger arc. the untamed is a LOT longer in comparison.

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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2014, 07:35:33 AM »
Wouldn't the 2000 grit dull surface on the new Unleashed, vs. the highly polished surface on the Untamed account for a large percentage of that difference, besides the Unleashed's coverstock being new??

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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 12:39:27 PM »
Firstly, I love the quality of your videos and the comparisons.

I wanted to make a recommendation, and that's possibly either altering the conditions or possibly the surface of balls to get more accurate comparisons.  Quite honestly, some of your videos make the balls look very weak and don't really show the strengths of the ball.  The Unleashed looks very weak in this video.  Weak hitting and not something that will inspire people to purchase.  For a ball that's advertised as being much stronger, a video that show's the exact opposite doesn't advertise well.  The Melee vs LT-48 had a similar issue with the Melee looking weaker, especially going through the pins.

Now I'm not suggesting fudge the videos to get the desired results.  Just compare the balls on their intended conditions or adjust surfaces so that you are at the same starting point (for balls like the Yeti where just the cover has changed).
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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 12:47:14 PM »
BRC--

Just a quick question/thought---- why did you go with a different dual angle layout and numbers other than the typical way you guys would lay out a ball?

Not that I'm opposed, but I was intrigued when the layout part of your video began.
Reax-45x4.5x40(pin down)
Nexus (original)- 45 x 4 x 35 (pin up)
503t-45x4.5x40
Source-60 x 5.5 x 50
Nexxxus f(p+s)-70x5.5x35
Marauder-55x5x50 (2k+polish)
300t-60x5.5x50 (+polish)
Melee-75x6x40 -- Anyone want to buy this?

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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 12:52:47 PM »
I think the current format is fine. I find it very valuable to see two different balls in OOB finish compared to each other. But I would also agree that the main subject ball be used in condition best suited for its purpose. I've seen BRC videos utilizing 'heavy house shot'. That would have seemed to be the better condition for a yeti unleashed video.

Btw. Still waiting for the re-edited grease monkey video that includes torrid affair comparison.  :D
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Jason Kovack

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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2014, 05:27:20 PM »
I'm not sure how I feel about changing the surfaces.  It does make sense obviously to make the ball react well on a test pattern.  But that's not really what we are trying to do.  I really don't agree with the intended manufacture strength charts.  On a normal house shot, the unleashed in OOB condition is gonna be too strong IMO.  It wasn't hard to see that.  The ball was very smooth but the untamed stored a lot more energy.  Surfaces do come into play of course as the untamed has some shine to it.  On the other hand it does make sense to have both layouts and surfaces the same.  It's something we are going to have to think about.  We obviously don't wanna make any ball look bad.  As for the layout question, we used this layout on the original yeti so we could do the motion hole.  For comparison purposes we kept all the layouts the same.
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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2014, 12:15:25 AM »
I get the difference in the lines they was playing, what I dont get is why didnt they throw the same line with both balls so people can see now different the reaction really is? When you play 2 totally different lines you will get 2 totally different reactions off each ball. If you was to throw the unleashed around the 3 arrow like he did with the untamed what would the reaction be or Might it of held a better line being its in a touch more oil or if the untamed was thrown up the 12 board like the unleashed  was, would we of been able to see the difference and would it of still hit the head pin?   Id like to see the difference in each ball being played on the same line, this way I can see how much stronger 1 ball is from another.   
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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2014, 12:17:59 AM »
I think the videos are fine.

I don't look at overall hook, because there is so many subjective things that effect it. Poor surface, pattern, tilt, rev rate.. things that will ALWAYS be subjective.

I pay more attention to shape, and as you can see here the shape is vastly different. There is another video out of the unleashed that makes it look at least a zone, maybe 2 zones stronger. Different surface, different house pattern, tilts, rev rates, everything. All subjective items.

Great job.

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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2014, 11:25:56 AM »
The ball is advertised for tournament shots and heavy volume house shots. On a THS it will be too much ball for many bowlers and appear weak.

Also, it is well documented that house shots make many balls look similar.

I notice a huge difference between balls when I bowl challenge or sport patterns.

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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2014, 05:10:30 PM »
Great point. Strong balls on a house shot tend to be very mellow, put a little more oil down and they come to life.
Videos are great for all to see the ball motion for the most part, we had the Yeti untamed and the Yeti unleashed about 5 different and a huge difference in motion. Untamed huge back end unleashed more arc and stronger in the mid lanes. Should be great for the Nationals and city and state tournaments. 

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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2014, 06:58:11 PM »
I finally drilled a Yeti Untamed last week and regret waiting this long to do so!!!  The ball was amazing on Kegel Beaten Path playing the track at 20mph off hand. Crushing racks. I was able to move in as well with a little less speed and the recovery was amazing.

Also shot 645 last night on a 2nd shift league and that included 3 opens in game 1.

This is a very versatile piece and because of it I am ordering the Unleashed for summer sport league!!

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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2014, 10:27:19 PM »
I'm really starting to ache for this ball.  Once I get it, the brick will never see the light of day again.
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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2014, 09:15:10 AM »
New Guy or Jason--

How does the Unleashed compare (overall) to the original Reax? Overall they will have a different look because of core strength and cover, but can you give an estimate as to the difference in shape and overall strength when comparing the two to each other?

I ask because I absolutely LOVE my black Reax..... and in observing Radical products at the tournament level around here, the equipment stacks up with other "Big Name" companies, especially those products coming out of Utah.

On a THS, the Reax stays home; not enough oil. Even the Reax V2 looks to be a little out of place for those with any semblance of revs/hand, but it is more "usable" than the first (I would think b/c of the overall assembly/design of the ball, plus a cover that intentionally goes a bit longer)..... So I wonder how the Unleashed (box finish) would compare.

Any guesses? Also, NewGuy-- keep up the great work! The bowling community is noticing the Radical brand, so you guys are doing something correctly!

Jason-- thanks for the videos and info you post, they are quite helpful when determining how a ball "looks" overall. Would love to see you put something like a
45 x 4.5 x 40 on a "top shelf" product and watch it go to town :-)
Reax-45x4.5x40(pin down)
Nexus (original)- 45 x 4 x 35 (pin up)
503t-45x4.5x40
Source-60 x 5.5 x 50
Nexxxus f(p+s)-70x5.5x35
Marauder-55x5x50 (2k+polish)
300t-60x5.5x50 (+polish)
Melee-75x6x40 -- Anyone want to buy this?

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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2014, 11:57:18 AM »
The Black Reax will handle higher volumes of oil and should start up a bit sooner.

Jason Kovack

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Re: Radical Yeti Unleashed Reaction Video
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2014, 04:40:36 PM »
Thanks for the comments.  We are going to sit down and possibly talk some different layout options for the vids.  We really want to show the strengths of the balls and at the same time keep everything as similar as possible for comparison purposes.  This new yeti is gonna put up some huge numbers at nationals and we are recommending it to everyone that's going.  Stay tuned!
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