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The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« on: June 14, 2016, 10:55:00 AM »
Go to our website
www.radicalbowling.com
and check out our 3 new ball launches announced today.

 

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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2016, 05:36:54 PM »
Does not the Xeno compare more favorably to the Reax Version 2 series/Reax Gusto series pieces in terms of core and actual numbers?
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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2016, 08:27:15 AM »
I absolutely cannot wait for the Ridiculous Pearl to come out....Love that series of bowling balls
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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2016, 05:47:00 PM »
Does not the Xeno compare more favorably to the Reax Version 2 series/Reax Gusto series pieces in terms of core and actual numbers?

Numbers are the same at the Reax V2. Cover is more responsive

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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2016, 10:10:49 AM »
It seems all three balls are "stronger off the spot".  How was it determined this shape was needed in the lineup?  Were the previously described "stronger off the spot" balls not really strong off the spot based on user feedback?  Or is there something else that elicits this type of reaction across all new balls? 

I determine the performance targets based on several factors, some of which but not all are performance within the line. ( check out the performance chart and you can see where the holes in the line were) and consumer requests.
The Guru pearl limited edition is stronger off the spot simply because it is a pearl version of the Great Guru core. Thus by nature the pearl cover stores energy and responds to friction in a quick fashion (but you already knew that )
The Ridiculous pearl ( see above Guru response)
The Xeno is a bit unique as we have a great core (the Reax V2 solid) but now have a chance to use a 4th iteration cover that is by nature more responsive.
I hope this answers your questions and concerns.

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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2016, 01:16:25 PM »
It seems all three balls are "stronger off the spot".  How was it determined this shape was needed in the lineup?  Were the previously described "stronger off the spot" balls not really strong off the spot based on user feedback?  Or is there something else that elicits this type of reaction across all new balls? 

I determine the performance targets based on several factors, some of which but not all are performance within the line. ( check out the performance chart and you can see where the holes in the line were) and consumer requests.
The Guru pearl limited edition is stronger off the spot simply because it is a pearl version of the Great Guru core. Thus by nature the pearl cover stores energy and responds to friction in a quick fashion (but you already knew that )
The Ridiculous pearl ( see above Guru response)
The Xeno is a bit unique as we have a great core (the Reax V2 solid) but now have a chance to use a 4th iteration cover that is by nature more responsive.
I hope this answers your questions and concerns.

So looking at the Radical ball chart before the release of these three new balls I see 9 out of 11 balls are at the middle of the reaction range to more backend.  That leaves 2 out of 11 balls classified as more roll according to the chart.  With the introduction of the new balls, all of which I assume will be above the middle of the chart in the more backend category, Radical will have devoted 86% of their complete arsenal to medium to more backend bowling balls.



So my question is this: is this an instant of giving the market more of what you are already providing at the sake of a more complete arsenal?

I don't discount sales as a motivating factor when it comes to bowling ball releases, but I question as a consumer the need for these particular pieces.  Or at least all three at the same time.  If I were to look to Radical for a complete arsenal I would think, based on this chart and these release, that it is not a complete arsenal and I would have to find pieces elsewhere to fit all of my needs.

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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2016, 03:14:15 PM »
Wrong Chart!

Also about 90% of our customers bowl on house shots. Most popular ball motion is long and flip meaning on the oils of today they want a ball to store energy before it gets to the back part of the lane.  We already have the most hook rated balls on the market with the Guru Master and Guru Supreme so the high hook end is covered very nicely. So as technology allows us we offer more of what they want. Lastly we launch certain performance characteristics at certain times of the year. I hope this answers your concerns.

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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2016, 04:02:04 PM »
The only difference between the chart I posted and what is shown on the Radical website is the addition of the three new balls (Xeno, Guru Limited, and the Ridiculous Pearl) and the removal of the Primo.

I understand the THS bowler being the core of the sales and wanting to cater to those bowlers.  It is just my personal opinion it seems the lineup is skewed to one style a little more extreme than others.  And to be honest, it is okay since Radical is tied to Brunswick and DV8. 

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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2016, 04:14:28 PM »
Link to chart please?  I could not find it on the Radical website.

Searched on the site gave this:
Search Results Your search for “ball chart” returned 1 results
 Mo Pinel’s Radical Approach to the 2014 USBC Open Championships
« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 04:15:59 PM by MI 2 AZ »
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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2016, 04:21:09 PM »
I had to use Google since I too did not find a chart on the Radical website.

http://www.bowlersedge.biz/shop/contents/media/l_radical%20current%20line%20scale-regular-paper.png
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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2016, 06:04:14 PM »
I had to use Google since I too did not find a chart on the Radical website.

http://www.bowlersedge.biz/shop/contents/media/l_radical%20current%20line%20scale-regular-paper.png


Thanks.  I thought at one time I did find it on their website.  Maybe it was just here on this site.
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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2016, 07:19:30 PM »
Link to chart please?  I could not find it on the Radical website.

Searched on the site gave this:
Search Results Your search for “ball chart” returned 1 results
 Mo Pinel’s Radical Approach to the 2014 USBC Open Championships


I believe this is Radical's ball chart

http://radicalbowling.com/balls/compare

« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 07:28:53 PM by Aloarjr810 »
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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2016, 07:41:48 AM »
Link to chart please?  I could not find it on the Radical website.

Searched on the site gave this:
Search Results Your search for “ball chart” returned 1 results
 Mo Pinel’s Radical Approach to the 2014 USBC Open Championships


I believe this is Radical's ball chart

http://radicalbowling.com/balls/compare



That is what I was able to find on their website.  It unfortunately only gives one aspect of what many bowlers are looking for, strength. 

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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2016, 08:15:31 AM »
I think the chart is suppose to be under the "Compare" button, except there is no link on the Compare button and hasn't been for some time.

The One posted above is their Oil handling chart, not reaction.
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2016, 09:35:31 AM »
I think the chart is suppose to be under the "Compare" button, except there is no link on the Compare button and hasn't been for some time.

The One posted above is their Oil handling chart, not reaction.

The "Compare" button is not a button it's just a section title. the button is the one below that which say's analyze. Which takes you to the oil comparison chart, which is the only chart they have.

I believe Radical decided not to use a hook vs length system like the other chart does for ball comparison.
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Re: The 3 new launches are up on our Website
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2016, 10:04:50 AM »
I think the chart is suppose to be under the "Compare" button, except there is no link on the Compare button and hasn't been for some time.

The One posted above is their Oil handling chart, not reaction.

The "Compare" button is not a button it's just a section title. the button is the one below that which say's analyze. Which takes you to the oil comparison chart, which is the only chart they have.

I believe Radical decided not to use a hook vs length system like the other chart does for ball comparison.

You say that but the version of it that someone posted a few posts ago has the Jackpot on it, which is technically the latest release from Radical. So is someone else keeping that sheet updated on another forum? Or is it just not easy to find on their website?
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