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Asylum
« on: November 13, 2013, 10:38:30 AM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
Roto Grip Asylum Ball Specs:
- Color: Neon Green Pearl/Blood Red All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Reaction: Mid-lane motion and continuation
- Coverstock: 63MH Hybrid Reactive
- Core Type: Middle Roll 70 Core
- Factory Finish: 3000-grit Abralon
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.50**
- Differential (Diff): 0.043**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Hook Potential: Medium
- Length: Medium
- Recommended Lane Condition: Medium-Heavy Oil

 

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Re: Asylum
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2013, 08:22:36 AM »


Asylum #1: Layout: 30x3 5/8th x40
Tested on: 41ft THS and Don Carter pattern
Surface and oil/cleaner: Older HPL and Ice oil with Defense C cleaner
Results: Found this ball to be MORE aggressive than any ball off of the pattern, this ball make a complete fish hook off of both patterns, the ball read great thru the front and mid part of the lanes, but once off the pattern, especially the THS, it went sideways for me. This ball needs speed and with me just back from knee and hand surgeries, I did not do this ball justice with that layout, I applied some Storm shine and it really helped out a lot. It did get thru the pun deck really well and in the 12 games I used with it, having a slight polish on it has helped it a lot. Box condition you will need some ball speed to control it, a little polish will help you

Roto Grip Asylum Ball Specs:
- Color: Neon Green Pearl/Blood Red
- Reaction: Mid-lane motion and continuation
- Coverstock: 63MH Hybrid Reactive
- Core Type: Middle Roll 70 Core
- Factory Finish: 3000-grit Abralon
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.50**
- Differential (Diff): 0.043**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Hook Potential: Medium
- Length: Medium

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Re: Asylum
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 03:19:03 PM »
Asylum

The 3rd version of the middle roll 70 core from Roto Grip.  With a 3000 finish hybrid cover stock.  The Disturbed seemed to be the ball of choice for 2013 USBC Nationals.  This one may be the one for 2014.  By far my favorite of the 3. 

I drilled mine with the pin over the ring finger with the CG towards the middle of my grip.  It gives me great control of the middle part of the lane with predictability down lane.  Once you get lined up the strikes start coming in bunches. 

Kelly O’Driscoll
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Re: Asylum
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2014, 12:33:41 PM »
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Re: Asylum
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 08:31:47 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length: Various

Volume: Various

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): Various



The Roto Grip Asylum is the third installment to the HP3 line and fits in between the Disturb and the Deranged.  The Hybrid coverstock (63MH) provides enough traction in the oil and enough finish in the dry. The Layout that I used for the Asylum is 75 X 5 ½ X 45 or Pin above the fingers with a small weight hole.  This layout is one of my favorites and has been a main stay in my arsenal.  My coordinates are 5 5/8 over and ¾ up, Ball Speed around 15mph, Rev Rate around 300 and I am right handed. In the next couple of paragraphs I will be comparing the Asylum to the Deranged and the Disturb..

The Asylum out of the box is way too aggressive for any short house pattern (32 feet light oil) but I gave it a whirl and was able to own the pocket! I am naturally a straighter player but with the Asylum I had to move my feet left and project the Asylum to the right. The continuous motion of the Asylum was very readable and strong enough to get through the pocket.  However, the extreme angles that I had to play did not leave me any room for error. The drier condition was right in the Deranged wheel house and the length and backend motion was just right. I did polish up the Asylum and I was able to move right with my feet and had a decent look but the Asylum was stronger throughout the lane.

The last pattern that I bowled on was a beat up scorpion condition (47 feet heavy oil). I compared the Asylum to the Disturb and within a couple of shots I realized that the Asylum has a lot more backend than the Disturb. The Disturb for me has a smooth and continuous ball motion and when I have to go around the condition is does not do so well. The Asylum is also continuous but has a more aggressive backend motion and going around the pattern is pretty easy. Actually I think if the pattern was fresh, the Disturb would be the ball to start with and then transfer to the Asylum.  Really good one two punch!

The Asylum is a good fit in the HP3 line. With a couple of surface changes the Asylum is a very versatile bowling ball!


Likes: The Aggressiveness

Dislikes: The Aggressiveness


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Roto Grip Asylum by Staffer Casey Murphy
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2014, 03:34:06 PM »
Orientation:  Right Handed
Rev Rate:  400 RPM
Speed:  16-17 MPH
PAP:  5 across ¾ up

Location:  Enterprise Park Lanes, Springfield MO
Pattern:  High Volume THS
Layout:  40, 6, 60 w/p1 hole

I love the Disturbed.  The Deranged was good, but a little too over under.  The Asylum, I love.  It’s close enough to the Disturbed to feature that same strong/smooth motion that made the Disturbed the solid coverstock of the year.  The Asylum is noticeably cleaner through the fronts and does create more backend, but not to the point where it jerks too hard off the dry, which is what I got with the Deranged.

If you loved the Disturbed, but want something that gets through the heads better, the Asylum is a no brainer.  Go get one today!

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Re: Asylum
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 11:08:07 PM »
A hybrid between the Disturbed and Deranged?!?! Umm.. hell yes! The Asylum is a perfect fit between those two balls.  I did feel like there was a bit of a gap and the Asylum fills it perfectly.  For me, the Deranged was very clean and pretty sensitive to friction, where the Disturbed was pretty strong for a symmetrical ball.  The Asylum is definitely a step down from the Disturbed in length and motion.  I can easily see lots of players using the Asylum when the lanes transition and the stronger balls start to burn up.  It provides a good amount of length, not as much as an Up Roar or Shatter and just as much pop down lane as a Disturbed. 

The one I drilled is 5 ½ x 4 ¾ with no hole and I took the surface up to 4000.  I’m not able to use it a lot on fresh patterns, but when the lanes start to transition, it’s a great piece to go to.  I can definitely see using this ball on several types of conditions.  This ball also takes surface very well.  For a mid-performance ball, the Asylum isn’t too strong for the price point and will provide you a step-down benchmark ball.  To sum it up, if you feel like you are missing a gap after your Disturbed, Marvel-S, Wrecker, Defiant Soul, or Byte, this ball will provide a smoother, cleaner motion with a very predictable motion down lane. 

Go drill one! #RotoGrip #OwnIt

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Asylum
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 12:17:26 PM »
Lay Out: 4.75" from PAP at 65* PAP angle and 35* VAL angle. Dual angle measurement would be 65/4.75/35. The pin ended up about 1/2 above my ring finger with the CG very slightly swung out from the ring finger. No weight hole yet, but plan to put one in the P2 section

Surface: I am box finish which is 3000 abralon.

Purpose: I wanted to drill up this up to try to get something that I could start to the left of the oil line for league with but wouldn't overreact if sent a little wide. Plus I really like my Deranged and wanted something that might pick up a little quicker if it was too long with the same kind of shape.

Observations: The Asylum is a great piece. It does what intended by picking up a little quicker when my Deranged labors at the spot. It has the typical hybrid smoothness that Storm/Rg are known for, but can be tweaked with surface prep. I put it side by side with my Hyper Cell and it is a good step down from the Hyper. Put this one in your bag if you need a benchmark type ball or something just a step down from your mega hook monsters.
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Re: Asylum review by Sean Baker
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2014, 12:04:06 PM »
Roto Grip Asylum
Right Handed
Experience   Advanced (I have bowled in a league and hold a PBA Card)
League Average   220
Ball Speed   Medium 15-16mph
Style          Cranker
PAP          5 over 1/4" up
 
 


PSA Layout - 4" x 4" x 2"
Balance Hole - yes

Surface Preparation - Out of Box (300 Grit Abralon pad)

What I Was Looking For from this ball:    I wanted the Asylum to be a benchmark ball for me and to be very strong through the midlane and continue all the way to the backend.  I wanted the hybrid coverstock and weight block combination to give me just that.     

What I Ended Up With in the Ball and Layout:     I ended up with a hook monster for me.  I literally went to the pro shop and polished this bad boy before I continued testing it out.  For me its mean and I mean very aggressive on the backend.     

I tested this ball on a fresh pattern at my local center. The centers lanes are wood and the house shot isnt easy.  The shot tends to hook early in the middle of the lanes and hang right if you get the ball too far out.  Over the course of 5 games, I started at my normal area which is around 15 and threw out to 8.  Well, this ball was a bit too much for this line and I had to throw lots harder than normal to play it.  However, When I kept my speed up, it hit like a Mack Truck.  Over the next 5 games I moved left and deeper on the lane.  With our shot tending to hook more when you got deep, I was very impressed by how this ball held its line with a good continuous motion throughout the front part of the lane and came back off my breakpoint with authority!  For the rest of my practice session with this ball, I moved back right and started sending the Asylum out further to the right than I normally play flirting with our out of bounds area.  I quickly found out that I dont have much of an out of bounds with this ball.  I am very impressed!   

Overall:     Once again a fantastic Roto Grip ball!  VERY strong!  I will definately make sure to have this ball with me wherever I go and start out with it.  One of the hardest hitting balls I have thrown in a while and a great looking ball.  I will have to keep mine polished, but thats because of my slower speed.  Most players can probably throw it OTB.  Anyone looking for an aggressive ball with a great look, buy this!  Roto Grip hit it out of the park with this one.     

Sean Baker
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Paducah, Ky 42003

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Re: Asylum
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2014, 12:12:30 PM »

Weight:  14 lbs.
Pin Length:  3”
Drilling:  Pin over fingers, CG kicked rt.
Pattern Length:  39 ft.
Pattern Volume:  Light/Medium
Pattern Type:  THS
Right handed

The ASYLUM is a hybrid version of the DISTURBED.

I used the ASYLUM on our 39 ft. house pattern at box finish (3000 grit)

The ASYLUM, at box finish, hooked a bit too early for me on our house pattern.  I brought the surface up to 4000 grit, no polish, and found i could use it on our house shot.  It’s a  great complement to the DISTURBED, as it gets down lane a bit further, but makes a stronger move on the back end. 

I also used the ASYLUM on our modified house/tournament shot. I found the ASYLUM gave me great reaction on the modified  house pattern, which has more volume than our THS.  I brought the ASYLUM back to box finish for this pattern and was able to use it throughout the qualifying block.  As the lanes transitioned, I was able to move in and still carry the corner pins, which is a great quality in this ball.  Later in the day, I can then throw the DERANGED, and get that extra length for the final games of the tournament. 

This is a great ball that fits right in between the DISTURBED, and the DERANGED.  Very smooth through the heads with a big turn to the pocket and a nice heavy roll through the pins. 

Carol Teel
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Asylum review by Mark Tarkington
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2014, 02:17:24 PM »
Right Handed
Ball weight:  14
Rev Rate:  378
Ball Speed:  18.2
Axis Tilt:  6.67
Axis Rotation:  45*
PAP:  4 1/2 horizontal, 1 5/8 up
Layout: 60 x 6 x 80

This isn’t going to be a traditional review.  This ball was drilled for burned and beat up conditions, specifically sport patterns where something like a fall-back shot is required.  I got this ball and have plenty of balls that cover boards in a variety of shapes, but I’ve been lacking something for burn.  Since this is where I get demolished in tournaments, it was time to figure something out.

This Asylum is drilled to flare about ½” and just roll.  The only reading it does is due to surface.  I haven’t altered the surface yet, but that may be coming soon.  When the lanes are really eat up and everything is hooking tons, this one will roll relatively straight and go exactly where you roll it.

Mind you this is because of the layout and not the core/cover.  I’ve seen plenty of guys use this one with much success covering boards, so the ball isn’t weak and it will do whatever you need from it.  My layout is a good example of this.  A ball that seems to be as aggressive as the Asylum was really tamed down, and seemingly weak, but one thing that wasn’t lost is the hitting power.  Even though it has no flare and just rolls, when it gets to the pocket, it hits like it just angled off of the pattern. 

In the next couple of weeks, I’m going to be testing this one out on some sport patterns that should get burned up pretty bad.  I’ll post an update when I have a bit more information.
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RotoGrip Asylum Ball Review - Ron Case (RotoGrip Staff)
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2014, 09:43:11 PM »
My Axis is 4 7/8 right, ¼ up, my speed is average and I would consider myself with higher revs but more up the back.  So not a cranker but not really straight either.

Drilled this ball 55 x 5 ½” x 30 (5 ½” x 4 ½” x 2”)

This ball I left in box condition and thought it would roll too early for me due to the surface, but it makes it down the lane very well.  Then at the mid lane it begins to roll and then the back end is very strong.  The ball continues thru the pin deck very well.  I’ve been able to use this ball on the fresh and even after the lanes get broken down a bit.  The ball also seems very low maintenance as I’ve put a lot of games on it and it still reacts like it did on day 1.  I think this ball can fit anyone’s game, from straight players to crankers, because it is very predictable and fits in the middle of my arsenal.

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Roto Grip Asylum Ball Review By Walter McKnight
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2014, 10:19:11 PM »

Lane Conditions: Medium Oil
Typical Conditions: Variety of Shots
Type of Lane: Combination
What part of the lane did you play? Second Arrow
Did the ball track out? Normal
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: Factory/Box
What grit was the surface of the ball? 3000
Likes: Strong midlane motion and controlled back end


The Roto Grip Asylum is the newest edition to the ever popular HP3 Line. The 63MH Cover in combination with the Middle Roll 70 Core (Same used in the Deranged and Disturbed) creates an even midlane reaction and controlled break point. The surface out of box is 3000 Grit and takes well to surface adjustments. Overall the reaction is very smooth through the heads and still retains enough energy to roll through the pins. This ball fits in well between the Deranged and Disturbed and can used on a variety of house and sport patterns. If you are looking for a strong Symmetrical Hybrid thats versatile and controllable, this is the ball for you.



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ASYLUM review - John Brodersen - RG staff
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2014, 01:38:40 PM »
Ball specs – 15 lbs 2 oz, 2.63 top weight, 4 inch pin.

The Asylum, which is a hybrid in the HP3 line, was drilled using the dual angle method.  The layout is a 70 X 4 ½ X 35.  An x-hole was not needed. Using Storm’s layout terminology the layout would be 4 1/2 by 5 1/2 with a 2 1/2 inch pin buffer.  The cover was left OOB which is 3000. 

The Asylum was thrown on a fresh 41 foot, 24 micro liter house shot.  The Asylum was very clean through the fronts, picked up nicely in the late mids and produced a strong arc on the backend.  It has a great over all ball motion that will make it very versatile.  The Asylum fits nicely in its designed spot between the Disturbed and the Deranged. The Asylum is longer and more angular than the Disturbed and sooner, a little smoother on the backend, and handles carry down better than the Deranged. 


John Brodersen
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Re: Asylum
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2014, 10:28:28 AM »
I tested the Asylum on my 39-foot house shot as well as tournament conditions.  I was able to use this ball equally as well under both conditions.  The 3000 the box finish matched up perfectly for these conditions.

My Asylum is drilled with the pin below the fingers with the CG kicked out toward the PAP.  This ball was clean through the front end and produced about 4-6 inches of flare.  The ball rolled strong off my hand and in the mid-lane the ball revved up nicely and made a solid, strong move to the pocket. 
This ball was devastating as it continued to drive through the pin deck (what I have come to expect from Roto Grip).

The Asylum has a very predictable reaction, and with the 2.50 RG and .043 differential makes it a great addition for the lower rev medium speed league player.

As the lanes transition, I could simply move left, play a little deeper and continue to use this ball.  I found this ball to be a couple boards stronger than the Berserk.  The hybrid cover of the Asylum allows the ball to read the fresh oil nicely and make a nice predictable move off the dry area.

What I enjoyed the most about this ball is the predictability of the cover. It produced a nice steady hook to the pocket.  I was getting 4-6 inches of flair and bouncing the ball off the dry all night.

The Asylum is a great ball for the league or tournament.  This ball will make a nice addition to anyone’s arsenal.