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Zaner

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Hustle SAY
on: May 15, 2017, 11:39:11 PM
I just ordered a Hustle SAY, wanted some feedback from people whole have it or have thrown it.
I bought it because i wanted something for when the lanes dry down.
Hear from you soon! Thanks
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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #16 on: May 17, 2017, 03:04:31 PM
Yeah, boosts are stronger than advertised. Unless you were to lay the core down with a short pin to pap, it's just too strong off the spot if you're looking to keep it in the dirt. Then kill the surface. Rush too. A Rush with a 1 inch pin to pap might work...
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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #17 on: May 17, 2017, 07:23:02 PM
I throw around 16.5 mph with a medium rev rate. I've never really cared to figure my exact rev rate but I'm not rev dominant nor low revs. On a typical house shot I can throw my dare devil trick or no rules pearl comfortably. I'm never releasing left of the head pin.  I agree that a tropical breeze won't be enough ball for what I need. I think the hustle might be too much. Really looking for something a little less than a hustle


Quote from: ITZPS link=topic=313986.msg2578495#msg2578495 mdate=1495050835
The Hustle isn't that ball.  As far as an up 5 type ball, the Boosts are still too strong (depending on how you throw the ball and oil volume), and Motiv is hard to figure out.  Their low end stuff hooks more than it should and the high end stuff hooks less than it should.  If Roto was still making the Loco Solid, that would be the one, but they aren't.  The Tropical Storms are a lot weaker now than they used to be, but my wife has one and they just seem kind of dead.  The Ride was one of the best dry lane balls I'd seen in a while but it's already discontinued.  Not sure what to recommend in terms of a good dry lane ball right now honestly aside from urethane. 

I'm not a fan at all.  Loco Solid?  Yeah, one of the best balls they ever made.  Hustles? Way too strong for their intention, they aren't dry lane balls at all.  Core too strong for the cover and by the time you adjust the cover to match, you've got something way stronger than you were after.  I haven't actually hated a ball in a long time, and the SAY was better than the PRO, but the Hustles aren't for me . .

I know your Storm staff. But as a bowling guy, how would the PRO compare to the boost or the new freestyle rush coming out.


I really need an up 5 type ball for when the lanes break down and I'm fighting to find oil inside with the bigger pieces I have

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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #18 on: May 18, 2017, 06:21:00 AM
I just don't think that exists right now.  Again, Loco Solid would have been perfect, no idea why it wasn't successful.  If you can find an original Ride anywhere, that would fit the bill, just not sure how many of those are still around. 

I throw around 16.5 mph with a medium rev rate. I've never really cared to figure my exact rev rate but I'm not rev dominant nor low revs. On a typical house shot I can throw my dare devil trick or no rules pearl comfortably. I'm never releasing left of the head pin.  I agree that a tropical breeze won't be enough ball for what I need. I think the hustle might be too much. Really looking for something a little less than a hustle


Quote from: ITZPS link=topic=313986.msg2578495#msg2578495 mdate=1495050835
The Hustle isn't that ball.  As far as an up 5 type ball, the Boosts are still too strong (depending on how you throw the ball and oil volume), and Motiv is hard to figure out.  Their low end stuff hooks more than it should and the high end stuff hooks less than it should.  If Roto was still making the Loco Solid, that would be the one, but they aren't.  The Tropical Storms are a lot weaker now than they used to be, but my wife has one and they just seem kind of dead.  The Ride was one of the best dry lane balls I'd seen in a while but it's already discontinued.  Not sure what to recommend in terms of a good dry lane ball right now honestly aside from urethane. 

I'm not a fan at all.  Loco Solid?  Yeah, one of the best balls they ever made.  Hustles? Way too strong for their intention, they aren't dry lane balls at all.  Core too strong for the cover and by the time you adjust the cover to match, you've got something way stronger than you were after.  I haven't actually hated a ball in a long time, and the SAY was better than the PRO, but the Hustles aren't for me . .

I know your Storm staff. But as a bowling guy, how would the PRO compare to the boost or the new freestyle rush coming out.


I really need an up 5 type ball for when the lanes break down and I'm fighting to find oil inside with the bigger pieces I have
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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #19 on: May 18, 2017, 10:03:02 AM
I had a similar post a bit ago because I was looking into the RIG and Wreck It to finalize my lineup. The Group here shifted me towards the Hectic and Trop Breeze. You may want to look at those as well.

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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #20 on: May 18, 2017, 10:12:28 AM
I know I should be focusing more on performance than color, but im not into purple or pink.
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Reply #21 on: May 18, 2017, 10:33:10 AM
I just bought a tropical storm, the black/cherry one with the hybrid cover.  The other colors are pearl.  Drilled it pin up above my ring finger about 6in from my PAP.  I'm med/high speed and med/high revs, about 70 degree rotation and 15 degree tilt.  I've only thrown it for a few games in practice and haven't really had the chance to throw it on a burned up/dry pattern.  Tried my best to simulate that during my 1st practice session with it.  I bowled the 1st 4 or 5 games with my no rules solid to break it down best I could just bowling by myself.

It covers more boards on the back end than I thought it would, more than I wanted actually but I can work with it.  I bought it specifically to throw up the boards in between 5 and 10 when there is way to much over/under coming across mid lane.

It really sucks there isn't more demo days but maybe you can get lucky and test/compare the tropical storm against the hustle. You might be surprised at how many boards the tropical storm can cover.  Only time it didn't recover was if my hand came around the ball on the release.  I'm guessing the weak lightbulb core in the Tropical Storm means it won't recover as much on bad shots.  But that is more my fault, not the ball.
Last Edit: May 18, 2017, 11:17:45 AM by rocky61201
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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #22 on: May 18, 2017, 11:59:13 AM
I'm going to say that has more to do with the hybrid cover, all the pearl ones I've seen are significantly weaker than the black cherry. 

I just bought a tropical storm, the black/cherry one with the hybrid cover.  The other colors are pearl.  Drilled it pin up above my ring finger about 6in from my PAP.  I'm med/high speed and med/high revs, about 70 degree rotation and 15 degree tilt.  I've only thrown it for a few games in practice and haven't really had the chance to throw it on a burned up/dry pattern.  Tried my best to simulate that during my 1st practice session with it.  I bowled the 1st 4 or 5 games with my no rules solid to break it down best I could just bowling by myself.

It covers more boards on the back end than I thought it would, more than I wanted actually but I can work with it.  I bought it specifically to throw up the boards in between 5 and 10 when there is way to much over/under coming across mid lane.

It really sucks there isn't more demo days but maybe you can get lucky and test/compare the tropical storm against the hustle. You might be surprised at how many boards the tropical storm can cover.  Only time it didn't recover was if my hand came around the ball on the release.  I'm guessing the weak lightbulb core in the Tropical Storm means it won't recover as much on bad shots.  But that is more my fault, not the ball.
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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #23 on: May 18, 2017, 10:45:45 PM
My PSO on the navy base where I'm stationed stocked the ebonite cyclone strike for vets. I may look into it too

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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #24 on: May 19, 2017, 02:48:08 AM
I just don't think that exists right now.  Again, Loco Solid would have been perfect, no idea why it wasn't successful.  If you can find an original Ride anywhere, that would fit the bill, just not sure how many of those are still around. 

I throw around 16.5 mph with a medium rev rate. I've never really cared to figure my exact rev rate but I'm not rev dominant nor low revs. On a typical house shot I can throw my dare devil trick or no rules pearl comfortably. I'm never releasing left of the head pin.  I agree that a tropical breeze won't be enough ball for what I need. I think the hustle might be too much. Really looking for something a little less than a hustle


Quote from: ITZPS link=topic=313986.msg2578495#msg2578495 mdate=1495050835
The Hustle isn't that ball.  As far as an up 5 type ball, the Boosts are still too strong (depending on how you throw the ball and oil volume), and Motiv is hard to figure out.  Their low end stuff hooks more than it should and the high end stuff hooks less than it should.  If Roto was still making the Loco Solid, that would be the one, but they aren't.  The Tropical Storms are a lot weaker now than they used to be, but my wife has one and they just seem kind of dead.  The Ride was one of the best dry lane balls I'd seen in a while but it's already discontinued.  Not sure what to recommend in terms of a good dry lane ball right now honestly aside from urethane. 

I'm not a fan at all.  Loco Solid?  Yeah, one of the best balls they ever made.  Hustles? Way too strong for their intention, they aren't dry lane balls at all.  Core too strong for the cover and by the time you adjust the cover to match, you've got something way stronger than you were after.  I haven't actually hated a ball in a long time, and the SAY was better than the PRO, but the Hustles aren't for me . .

I know your Storm staff. But as a bowling guy, how would the PRO compare to the boost or the new freestyle rush coming out.


I really need an up 5 type ball for when the lanes break down and I'm fighting to find oil inside with the bigger pieces I have
I feel like the only reason the Loco Solid didn't sell that well was because of the colors and shelf appeal. I don't mind that stuff, but seems like even some in tbe forum do. Just sucks because it's rare to get such good pieces thst excel.
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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #25 on: May 19, 2017, 05:04:40 AM
I agree completely, I put a strong drilling on by hybrid tropical breeze, and it does absolutely nothing, even playing up 2/3 board on the driest conditions.

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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #26 on: May 19, 2017, 06:38:47 AM
tropical breeze hybird is the way to go had them drilled strong and weak with good result with both.

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Reply #27 on: May 19, 2017, 11:46:20 AM
Practiced again last night with my Tropical Storm hybrid.  Pulled it out of the bag on the 3rd game and used it for about 3 games total.  Playing straight up the boards keeping it between 1st and 2nd arrow. I'm a low axis tilt and my track is only about inch left of my thumb and fingers.  As long as I had a good release and stayed behind the ball it made its way down to breakpoint and made a strong move to the pocket with lots of carry.  I was as able to keep that line for about 3 games until I started hitting high.  The ball didn't like moving left and playing a deeper line with more total hook.  Most of the time it would not make it back to the pocket strong enough and started to leave flat and ringing tens.

Can't wait till summer league starts so I have this ball as an option for game 3. In my fall leagues that just ended my game 3 average was about 10 pins lower than game 1 and 2 by the end of the season.  Hopefully the tropical storm will fix that.

     
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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #28 on: May 19, 2017, 11:48:59 AM
Sorry to hijack this thread about the hustle SAY.  I'm sure that ball would have had good results as well and I would have loved to demo both before making the purchase.  Either way, Roto and Storm are the same company so all the money goes to the same pot, lol.
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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #29 on: May 19, 2017, 01:12:21 PM
My Hustle SAY arrived yesterday and I was able to get it drilled with Vacu Grips.
Was not able to throw it yet because I hurt my back recently. Ball looks great and I cant wait to throw it down the lanes.
Last Edit: May 19, 2017, 01:14:03 PM by Zaner
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Re: Hustle SAY
Reply #30 on: May 19, 2017, 06:21:41 PM
That's cool and I hope it works out for you.  Let us know. 

For what it's worth the one thing I don't like about the tropical storm is the tropical storm logo and storm logo are both stamped on the left side of my ball and directly on my track.  I can hear my ball "clicking" down the lane like it's got a chip in it or something.  Bugs the heck out of me.  Hopefully the SAY doesn't come stamped like that.
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