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Author Topic: Nomad Dagger  (Read 4568 times)

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Nomad Dagger
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
- Cover Stock: Ultra Vision Hybrid Reactive
- Weight Block: Rotary Core
- Color: Deep Purple Solid/Silver Pearl
- Factory Finish: 1500 Polished
- Flare Potential: 5+ inches
- Lane Condition: Medium Oil
- RG Differential: 16#-0.049, 15#-0.054, 14#-0.046, 13#-0.037, 12#-0.021
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- Description: Looking forward to the new Nomad Dagger, we are relying upon the proven Rotary weight block design to carry the success of the series in to the future. This unique core shape fits so many different styles of bowlers! Strokers, crankers, and tweeners alike have found success with the Nomads...in fact, the Nomads have come to be must-haves in Wes Malott''''s tournament aresenal, too. And with an Ultra Vision Hybrid coverstock, the Nomad Dagger comes prepared with a 1500-grit polished finish. Matched with this Rotary core, it''''s a lethal combination. You need this ball. Roto Grip - it''''s all about the ATTITUDE.

 

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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2010, 11:06:04 PM »
Ball specs – 15 lbs 2 oz, 2.96 top weight, 2 ¾ inch pin.

The Nomad Dagger was drilled identical to a Nomad solid that I love the reaction of.  Using the dual angle method the layout is a 4 ¾ inch pin, 50-degree drill angle and a 70-degree VAL angle.  An x-hole was needed and drilled at the intersection of the VAL line and a line drawn from the grip center through the CG to the VAL line.  This would be approximately a P 2.5 hole.  Using Storm’s layout terminology the layout would be 4 ¾  by 4 by 4 ¼ .  The cover was left OOB.  

The Nomad Dagger is a great compliment to the Nomad solid.  The two balls are identical except that the Dagger has a hybrid cover stock.  This cover stock change allows the Dagger to be cleaner and longer through the fronts with a more angular move off the friction down lane than the Nomad solid.

The Nomad Dagger adds another distinct ball motion to the Roto Grip Sword line.  If you haven’t thrown a Nomad it’s definitely time to try one.

John Brodersen

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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 11:23:04 PM »
Nomad Dagger review #1

My specs: left hander, 230 plus average 3 & 5/8th and 1/16th up, 17+ plus ball speed ,bowl in several leagues in 2 counties and bowl in about every tournament locally and state and nationwide.

Layout recommendation from Mike Sinek: 60x5x65, pin to the right and lower side of middle finger, box condition and no additional weight or P-hole. Simply incredible hooking power in the back end of the lane. Stronger then a Rogue Cell overall and fits very nicely into the Nomad line, but I think a much cleaner reaction then a Nomad Pearl, which for me tends to be long and snappy. Roll an 809 series in after only practicing 4 games, did take it up to step it thru the pads to 4000AB to clean up the coverstock a little more and even  look cleaner and stronger after 20 games.



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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2010, 08:50:53 PM »
Hello everyone,

heres the nomad dagger ball video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDgYIyDo3g

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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2010, 07:23:44 AM »
The Nomad Dagger is a great addition to the Nomad family. The Dagger has a hybrid cover stock. This cover stock change allows the Dagger to be cleaner and longer through the fronts with a more angular move off the friction down lane than the Nomad solid.  For me, this is the best of the Sword line.

This ball cleared the heads great.  In the mid-lane the ball revved up nicely and made a solid, smooth move to the pocket. The Nomad Dagger reminds me a lot of my Mystic.

My ball is drilled with the pin just below the ring finger. This layout on a house pattern allowed me to play inside and swing the ball out to about 7-8 and watch it flip and drive back to the pocket.  I could also play down the ditch with a little more speed and watch the ball take a dramatic late turn with devastating results.
I can’t wait to try this on the Cheetah 35 foot oil pattern.

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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2010, 07:51:48 PM »
Roto/Storm takes their most versatile cover and puts it on Roto's most sucessful weight block ever. You do the math. Outstanding hitting power from a very smooth controlling arc. You are giving money away if you don't have the Dagger in your arsenal. Not to mention the whole Nomad line. Exceptional for all styles. TWO THUMBS UP!!!!

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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 07:56:16 AM »
I drilled this ball with the pin and cg stacked under my ring finger with no extra hole. The pin on this ball was approx 3" which put the Cg just above my thumb. To compensate for the additional thumb weight this created, I drilled the fingers deeper to get the thumb weight to zero.
     I used this layout to give me a skid/flip reaction for use on shorter oil patterns and on house shots as they break down. My Theory is drilled in a similar manner. Recently in league, my Theory was too strong for the fresh oil, so I used the dagger for the 3 games. The polished, hybrid cover, provided the extra length I needed yet still gave me a strong, controlled move off the break point. Like all medium to strong reactive balls, getting the Dagger onto the friction too early caused an earlier move off the break.
    The Nomad line, with surface alterations as needed, will provide the bowler a nice 3 ball arsenal to work with on medium to short patterns
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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 10:49:40 AM »
My Axis is 5 5/8 right, ¼ up, my speed is average and I would consider myself with higher revs but more up the back.  So not a cranker but not really straight either.  

Drilled using the dual angle 45° x 4 ½ x 40°.  Extra hole in possite thumb quadrant to get to legal.

This ball is very strong when it hits the dry.  It holds its energy until it hits dry then look out, it has a very sharp break and continues to go all the way through the pins.  The ball goes through the front and mid lane very easily then once off the pattern you can see it make its move.

On flatter patterns be careful not to miss in, but on most patterns it will give you plenty of room to let it go out.

Great ball for those who need help getting around the corner of those deep inside shots like myself.

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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2010, 10:12:08 PM »
The Nomad Dagger can get through the heads with the best of them. The ball plays good from any part of the lane. The ball has a very nice mid-lane roll and continuous move on the back ends. Out of the box condition it handles the oil better than the solid. This ball can be played straight enough to up the ditch and deep enough from any arrow. This Nomad Dagger will make a good bench mark ball.
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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2010, 04:46:24 PM »
My new favorite ball. The Nomad Dagger gets through the heads very clean and smooth, it revs up like the old 3 piece balls used to and is the most angular ball I own.
   I had it drilled with the pin above and between the fingers with the cg swung out slightly, no weight hole. My PAP is 5-1/4 right and 1/2 down. I'm a tweener under 15 mph with good hand. This ball gives me good recovery on wide shots and enough angularity to hold and carry when I miss in.
   This is one of those balls that you can't put down. I shot 4-700's and a 690 in a house where I didn't have a 700 prior to getting this ball this season. Angular but not snappy or jerky.A smoother replacement for the old epic Saga. I highly recommend this ball.
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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2010, 12:12:15 AM »
This ball is exactly of what you think it is. It is a combination of the Nomad Solid and Pearl put together. The great mid lane reaction of the Nomad Solid with the hard snap and continuation through the pocket of the Nomad Pearl is what this ball is.  If the Pearl snapped at the back end and went to long for you and the Solid read the lane to early and didn’t have enough snap on the back end, than this ball is great for you.  It works well on wood and synthetic lanes. In my opinion, it is a great ball.

My specs: 5-1/2 x 3-1/2 with 2 inch buffer and dual angle 40x5-1/2x30 – the pin is above the fingers in the middle

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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2010, 03:16:21 PM »
This ball is a great complement to the original Nomad.  Out of box, this ball was clean through the front part of the lane, saving its energy for the back end.  It had a strong arc that hit the pocket hard.  I’ve had the most success with this ball during transition and/or breakdown during league.  It gave me the best read as far as predictability during the drastic changes the lanes were making. I would recommend this ball for anyone who needs a GO TO ball during transitions.
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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2010, 09:07:23 AM »
if you want a ball to go long have huge backend hook and hit like a train this is the ball for you!
i got this ball two weeks ago. i got it for high school bowling for when the oil starts to carry down and to get a ball that hits very very hard. i threw this ball in a ball try-out put on by storm and roto grip and immediatly fell in love with this ball immediatly.

this ball is also very versital. you can play inside outside straight up the lane. i think this ball would fit in anyones arsenal.

so if your looking for a ball that hits hard has huge backend hook and a ball that goes long this is the ball you want

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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2010, 07:17:00 PM »
50 Deg. Drill Angle, 4” pin to PAP, 70 Deg. Angle to VAL, Hit the ball with 2000 to knock off the shine a bit.

This ball is a great fill in between the Dark Star and the Mutant Cell Pearl.  Being a hybrid makes it very playable on almost any condition.  With this drilling it starts up earlier and makes the sport conditions play somewhat easier.  I enjoy throwing this ball brings back memories of the Silver Streak line.  Check out the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCHLrM9nk7g&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

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Re: Nomad Dagger
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2010, 10:43:03 PM »
Dagger #2
35 x 3 ¾ 50 pin up above middle finger and box condition

 My specs: left hander, 230 plus average 3 & 5/8th and 1/16th up, 17+ plus ball speed ,bowl in several leagues in 2 counties and bowl in about every tournament locally and state and nationwide.

Was layout for me to play the “outside of 5 areas”, and the flatter longer KEGEL pattern. I practiced and began to trust this ball so much that I used it and roll a 300 one night then a 298 and 800 series a couple night later. Love it standing just right of center, (I’m left handed), and pushing the ball out towards the channel and allowing it to work its magic. I used it on several patterns the last couple of weeks before posting this information.

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