Author Topic: Infinite Theory (Read 25397 times)

admin · « **on:** December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »

- Coverstock: Insight Hybrid Reactive
- Weight Block: Triliptic Core (14-16 lbs), Modified Triliptic Core (12-13 lbs)
- Ball Color: Red Pearl/Silver Pearl/Black
- Lane Condition: Medium-Heavy Oil
- Ball Finish: 1500 Polish
- Flare Potential: 7+ inches
- RG: 16#-2.49, 15#-2.49, 14#-2.54, 13#-2.57, 12#-2.59
- RG Differential: 16#-0.051, 15#-0.058, 14#-0.049, 13#-0.032, 12#-0.029
- A few tiny pit holes in the cover stock of the ball are normal
- Description: Following the huge impact on the market made by the original Roto Grip Theory, Roto Grip has created the Infinite Theory. This ball is for bowlers looking for a smoother glide through the heads with strong motion through the pocket. The Triliptic core helps the ball get into a roll easier while the Infinite theory's triple elliptical shape creates consistent axis migration and predictable ball motion giving the consistency needed. This ball also provides more energy transfer from the ball to the pins, increasing pin movement and therefore increasing strikes. The hybrid coverstock gives added versatility while the polished surface will float the ball effortlessly through the heads with a hint of Abralon for the benefits of a solid.

RG is King · « **Reply #16 on:** March 30, 2011, 09:11:04 PM »

LANE CONDITION

Length:Route 66

Volume:

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):Sport Pattern

COMMENTS

Likes:Strong mid lane and backend

Dislikes:Box Finish was too shiny for me.

Roto Grip Infinite Theory

When I received my new Infinite Theory, I went and threw it on Kegel's Route 66 pattern. Box finish for me really cleared the fronts extremely well with a STRONG move toward the pocket. But for me box finish was a little too shiny. So I took it down with a 4000 pad just knocking the shine off a little. Big improvement but still not enough for me. So I took a 2000 pad and went over it and that was perfect. The ball still cleared the fronts with ease and read the mid lane perfect and was just as strong on the backend as before but now a strong continuous arc. I compared it to my original Theory and both balls performed very well. The Theory was quicker starting up and strong arcing move to the pocket and the Infinite Theory was cleaner through the fronts with a strong mid lane read and continuous backend movement. These two balls would give you an excellent one two punch.

cmsubowler · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:56:14 PM »

Hello all and thanks for reading. Please review the video on youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JphespOqPZw

Well here goes. I used my favorite layout in this ball which is 65 x 4.5 x 65 which has given me a very useful ball reaction no matter what ball I have put it into. I compared this ball to the obvious choice the original Theory. As you can see in the video i was able to use this ball on a variety of lines. The hybrid coverstock allows this ball to move easily through the front part of the lane while still allowing the ball to read the back part of the lane even on longer heavier oil. Pushing the ball past the track area to the drier outside part of the lane you can see how the ball picks up in the midlane and continues on the backend. The hybrid cover really allows this ball to be used as the lanes begin to transition. The hitting power is great no matter what line you decide to play. The angles this ball produces are not extreme but the heavy roll that is created allows the 6 pin to snap the ten out off of the side wall. This ball is a great benchmark ball that can be used on a variety of conditions.

rotostlgrip · « **Reply #18 on:** April 08, 2011, 09:30:05 AM »

Infinite Theory

Layout – Pin 1.5 inches above ring finger, MB right by the thumb

Finish – OOB

Hybrid, hybrid, hybrid. Just as expected, you get the best of both worlds. Clean like a pearl, strong like a solid. I can’t ask anything more from this ball. It’s a great bench mark ball for your typical league bowlers. Very easy to control. Definitely a perfect compliment to the Theory. This easily makes it to my list of favorite balls of all time.

Pro Shop Review:

As a pro shop operator, this ball is a very easy sell. It just plain fits the majority of your bowlers. Shelf appeal is nice, not too dull, not too bright.

Edgar Atienza
Roto Grip Staffer
Manager of Best Bowling Pro Shops - Plaza Lanes, St. Charles, MO
edgar@bestbowlingproshops.com

Tess8456 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 18, 2011, 08:46:33 AM »

BALL SPECS

Pin Length:4

Starting Top Weight:3.10

Ball Weight:16

DRILL PATTERN

Pin to PAP:4 1/2

CG to PAP:3

X Hole (if there is one):x hole on val 3 inches below mid line

BOWLER STYLE

Rev Rate:400

Ball Speed:18

PAP/Track:4 1/8 over 1 1/4 up

SURFACE PREP

Grit:polished

Type: (Matte, Polish, Sanded):factory

LANE CONDITION

Length:41

Volume:med

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):sport

BALL REACTION

Length:6.5

Back End:6

Overall Hook:6

Midlane Read:strong

Breakpoint Shape:arc

COMMENTS

Likes:I drilled the infinite theory with the pin just below my fingers with the mass on my val with a low hole through the cg.... this ball gets decent length and gets into a heavy roll with a good arc on the backend. I chose this layout to have a ball to use when i need to control the backend of the lane. So far this ball has bailed me out on a few occassions. another great ball to add to the roto grip line.

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Bigmike · « **Reply #20 on:** May 12, 2011, 10:13:49 AM »

See profile for stats.

Lay Out: 4 3/4" from PAP at 60* PAP angle and 40* VAL angle. Dual angle measurement would be 60/4.75/40. The pin ended up above my ring finger and there is a 7/8" weight hole down my axis point in the P3 position (2 1/2") drilled 2" deep.

Surface: I started at box finish which is 1500 Reacta-Shine. I put a 1000 Abralon (abr) on it to take to USBC's to have a strong hybrid/pearl with some surface in case they got real wet/dry. I have went ahead and knocked it down to 500 and then 4000 with a used abralon pad. This put some shininess on it, but not the factory shine.

Purpose: I wanted to drill up a ball to duplicate the reaction that I had with an Virtual Energy (VE) last year. I was able to use this VE when there was some volume in the front of the lane, but slight carry-down to the back ends. Looking at the numbers on the Infinite Theory (IT) and it's hybrid cover-stock, I thought this should be a perfect replacement or close.

Lane Condition Observations: I have thrown this on our house shot and on a couple of sport/flatter patterns that have more volume/longer distance. On the house pattern with the box surface, I had to get on top of the oil line to have a chance for the ball to hold energy. If I get it out to the dry too early, it is half tens. With the duller surface, this ball picked up much better and was strong enough to get those corners out more often. On the longer USBC pattern, the dull surface gave me a look right up the edge. The reaction for me was controlled arc and very good pin carry when surface is matched up to lane condition.

Other Ball Comparisions: I also put a couple of other balls in play to compare it to. I pulled out a Mutant Cell Pearl (MCP) and the Virtual Energy (VE) that I am thinking might need replaced due to normal oil absorption rates. The MCP has a similar pin distance (4 3/4) with 4000abr. I also have the ball laid out at a 55* angle and a hole on the axis. The VE is a strong ball drilled weak with a 5 3/4" pin and 50* angle. I keep anywhere from 2000-4000 surface on it as it is quite versatile for me on flatter patterns with that layout. The MCP picked up slightly stronger in the back on the house shot which it should as it is a true pearl with a strong layout. The IT looked slightly earlier and might be a good ball to "ball-up" to. The VE was close in push thru the front, but was stronger on the back also. Some of this is the duller surface I keep on that piece. To get the IT to fit above both of these in a tournament arsenal, might require a layout change to the "strong ball drilled weak" idea.

Final Thoughts: The Infinite Theory is definitely a stronger ball in the front of the lane. Those that loved the Virtual Energy may not see the big booming back end that ball was infamous for. The IT is more of a controlled stronger arc ball along the lines of the Cell Pearl but with a more versatile cover-stock. Put one of these in your tournament arsenal and you will like the versatility you can get with surface changes.

"Tell me Cup, how does a great ball striker like you shoot an 82? Well I lipped out this putt on 18......"

Mike Craig - Storm Products Pro-Shop staff -Columbus, OH

LarryH · « **Reply #21 on:** June 08, 2011, 12:04:10 PM »

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Infinite Theory Review

Name: Larry Hoffman RG Staff Roto Grip Product: Infinite Theory..

Accomplishment: As a 73 yr. old LH Stroker, each year it seems to get harder to compete in the USBC Nationals, but, again RG gave us the ball that has kept even the Seniors in the Competition. Bowling in a Sport League was a great help when the Infinite came out.. With the 3 inch pin below the ring finger & CG out a little and surface taken down to 1000 I could go up 2-3 board with hand behind ball & get a smooth reaction at the break point to the pocket & strong carry...Case in point....in Reno USBC in April I started in at 7-8 since back-ends appeared a little softer than my sport league. But, after a 176 start in team, I moved out to 2-3, and finished with 1946 ale, My 3rd highest at Nationals....Of my 8 open splits(4 were pocket 7-10s) not enough fingers & speed..plus 58 Strikes...As long as RG keeps these balls coming, the Seniors can keep competing...Larry Hoffman, RG Staff

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elvismat · « **Reply #22 on:** June 27, 2011, 08:05:17 AM »

LANE CONDITION

Length: 36 +

Volume: Normal (THS)

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):

COMMENTS

Likes: The way the ball goes through the heads and turn to the left.

Dislikes: Not much.

I like the way the ball is working, I have three games on it, just practice, trying / seeing how it works. The ball glides through the heads, with a strong move to the left, not a snappy turn, a strong move. Ball is drilled off my pap, pin slightly above ring, with weight hole, on the lower quadrant (almost a double thumb, but since it a asymmetrical core) not like like my marvel. One thing I can say, I get a lot of messangers with this ball, more than normal. I did notice, when the lanes broke down, this ball started to move more than normal. This ball will probably be a good benchmark ball, due to it can handle heavier oil and still make the turn. Slower the ball speed, will create the back end continuation. The only other ball I have, with strong angularity is my N'sane Leverage and this ball seems to have the angle I need / like (due to I'm more of a stroker, than cranker.) The turn on the Infinte Theory is stronger / sharper, than the N'sane. The Infinite Theory, gets more length than the N'sane.

Will post in the future, after I get more games on it.

Thanks,

Elvis....

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RonCase823 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 06, 2011, 11:21:56 AM »

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Likes:

My Axis is 5 5/8 right, ¼ up, my speed is average and I would consider myself with higher revs but more up the back. So not a cranker but not really straight either.

Drilled 2 of these . . . first one pin above fingers, CG in grip, MB in strong position. Ball has good length and a strong continuous hook on back end. Will need some oil to help get down lane. As for the strong characteristics of this ball with this drill I can go straight and hard and still get it to finish well or I can move inside and slow the speed a bit and get the ball to turn the corner quite well.

Second ball I drilled with the pin below the fingers, CG in grip, MB in strong position. This ball definitely hooks sooner and works really well on wet dry conditions where you can move inside and either bump it off the dry or keep it in the oil and let the ball do the work for you.

For me the higher pin works great when going straighter because when I miss my target inside it still goes long enough to hold the pocket and the center pin works good when going left to right because the ball will start up before it goes too far down the lane.

This ball should work great for most styles. Just pick which way you like to play and set it up for that and you’ll love it!

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bucko the bowler · « **Reply #24 on:** October 23, 2011, 06:21:44 PM »

LANE CONDITION

Length:mid and long

Volume: mid to heavy

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):works on all typs

COMMENTS

Likes:this is one of the balls that never leave the bag you can us this ball all the time and when you need to change balls you know what you need

Dislikes: na

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BRANDON HARRIS
Amateur Roto Grip Staff

jeff_mersch · « **Reply #25 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:01:00 PM »

Layout on the ball is dual angle layout 35x5x65 with no balance hole.

I am a left handed tweener with a 325 rev rate.

The infinite theory is another great ball from Roto Grip. The core is fairly strong and starts up pretty early. The hybrid cover is very clean in the front and strong on the backend. This ball is very versatile. I have used it with all different kinds of surfaces on it. I would consider this ball a great benchmark ball to give bowlers a great read on all different types of patterns.

I used this ball on Kegel’s middle of the road 39 foot pattern and it gave me the best look out of all the balls in my bag. It gave me plenty of mid lane roll to generate enough entry angle to get max carry.

Jeff Mersch

Roto Grip Amateur Staff

PBA Member

UF bowling · « **Reply #26 on:** May 19, 2012, 10:21:14 AM »

Very dependable. I got it to be the most aggressive ball I own for the longest, heaviest oil conditions that my Marvel just couldn't find enough traction in. Given why I got it, I don't get many chances to use it, but it always ends up being a good choice when I need it. My most comfortable shot is playing straight up the first arrow, so I drilled this to hook early to complement both its low RG and my play style, and it meshes really well in a way that neutral or late-hooking balls just can't compare with.

Josh Longerbeam

tommyboy74 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 03, 2012, 12:05:01 AM »

LANE CONDITION

Length: 43 ft on Brunswick Anvilane

Volume: Heavy

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

COMMENTS

Likes: Extremely clean through the heads, capable of higher entry angles, carry power

Dislikes: A little over/under with box finish

The Infinite Theory is another great ball from Roto Grip. I ended up with mine in a 4 ball deal through user sps300 and have now gotten the chance to use it a bit. On this ball, I decided to go with a 4x4x1 layout where I would have versatility on different conditions with a strong back end.

Throwing the ball on a fresh 43 ft house pattern with Brunswick Anvilane, the first thing I noticed was how clean the ball is through the heads. With the heavier oil, I noticed that the box finish proved to be a little over/under with me. However, keep in mind that my ball speed is around 19-22mph and have a rev rate of 420-430. If my speed got a touch fast, the ball would tend to skid a bit more at the start.

Compared to my Rogue Cell, the Rogue Cell starts reading the midlane earlier and has similar hook overall. This is because the Rogue Cell comes with 4000 as the box finish whereas the Infinite Theory comes 1500 polished.

The carry down proved to be where the Infinite Theory shines in my arsenal. Once the pattern had more friction in back (game 2), the ball had no problems on the back end. In fact, when I swung it wide a few times, the Infinite Theory was able to generate a ton of entry angle and had no problems recovering. It is very good with carry, keeping the pins low, and have been able to generate multiple messengers so far.

At the normal place I bowl, I could see this being an option to start with since our house pattern is more of a medium to medium-heavy volume. The back ends are also cleaner to start, so I would have friction to work with. From there, I could either move left and open the lane up, use speed and play tighter lines outside, or ball down to my Outlaw.

Bottom line is that the Infinite Theory is another good ball from the guys in Utah. If you are a little more speed dominant and want to use this on heavier patterns, definitely take a pad to scuff some of the polish off. Average and lower speed bowlers should have no problem with the box finish.

However on medium and medium-heavy conditions, this ball is money. Absolutely worth it.

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