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Barbed Wire
on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Ball NPS Score: Not Available
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Description:
The new Barded Wire features our legendary Thunder core technology with a twist a high density wedge offset internally providing generous flare potential.

Surrounding the core is our proven Pro-Glide reactive coverstock. Pro Glide provides a smooth overall arcing reaction, best suited for moderate to dry lane conditions.

Recommended for bowlers of all skill levels.

Contain your reaction...not your score with the Barbed Wire.

Specifications:
Line Hot
Color Black/Teal
Coverstock Reactive
Core 2-piece Asymmetrical
RG 2.56
Differential 0.044
Factory finish 1500 grit Polished
Weights 10 thru 16lbs
Lane Conditions Medium Oil

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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #1 on: October 15, 2003, 03:29:44 PM
Drilled my barbed wire stronger than I would normally just to try something different.

Pin: 4"
CG 2" right of center line
Extra Hole on axis.
Factory Finish

This ball clears the heads as well as anything I have thrown on medium to lighter patterns.
However it does not snap very violently which is by design.
Very controllable but hits very hard for an inexpensive ball!!!
I can't believe how controllable it is. it lets me play much farther right than I would with other equipment and hits like a truck.
Although not a all around ball for me it will still be a good addition to my arsenal.
I would love to see this core in a stronger cover stock for heavier conditions.
Have not tried it dull or scuffed to see how much earlier it will read. But the cover is Pro Glide and not as strong as the Accu-Tread or Cureylon.

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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #2 on: November 03, 2003, 12:36:52 AM
I bought this ball because i was mistaken horrible on the lane conditions i am playing on. I bought a Turbo Diesel 3 weeks prior to this because of this mistake on my part.

I am playing on burnt out lanes. so dry i am surprised they don't catch fire!!!

This ball is awesome on dry to light and still works pretty good on medium.

Great ball, it is drilled to go fairly long before breaking, but i can' still throw a fairly nice arc with it, so i am happy.

Mike Austin

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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #3 on: November 09, 2003, 03:49:19 AM
My Barbed Wire has the pin out about 2 1/2 inches from the CG.  The ball had 4.02 top weight before drilling.

I put the pin under my fingers on my span line, which for me is about 4 7/8" from my PAP.  I swung the CG out to the right just a little bit, putting it about 4 5/8" from my PAP.  The mass bias would be in about a 80 degree position.  I did not have to use an extrah hole and left the ball with the factory surface.

This ball goes VERY long.  I was expecting the length, but I was also expecting some back end too.  This ball goes through the first 3rd of the lane very well on just about any condition, fresh, used, choppy, whatever.  The weight block takes over in the middle third, which is good for control.  This rolly motion keeps right on going though.  This ball is very smooth, arcy, lazy, whatever on the back end.  Pretty weak.  

Even though the ball doesn't have much back end, it hits pretty good, when there is enough dry to make it usable.  This ball goes so straight I sold my Too Hot and Big Hit Pearl.  (I saved my Purple Pearl Hit though)

Coincedently, Storm Staffer Carol Norman drilled her Barbed Wire just the same as mine, and hers goes straight too.

I have to get this ball on some dry lanes to give it a real workout.  I bowl one late league, and the lanes haven't been dry enough there.

The Barbed Wire should be a good dry lane ball for most bowlers, with the empahsis on DRY.  The straight players will use this ball as a spare ball.  High speed guys probably will do the same.  BUT!!!, if you have medium/slower ball speed with any hand/rotation/revs at all, you will like this ball when bowling on dirt.

Hope this helps ya, more later.........

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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #4 on: November 13, 2003, 03:52:55 PM
We drilled one for a customer, over the label with the pin under the ring ringer. The shot bowled on was both a fresh house pattern and a second shift house pattern. Both on synthetics. The customers favorite ball in his bag was previously a Hot Rod. Unfortunately, this ball didn't seem to meet his standards. It seemed to get down the lane just fine and also make a controlled, smooth backend move. He had no problem finding the hole with this ball, however, carry seemed to be missing for him. However, he did seem very happy with the way the ball reacted both in the front and back part of the lane. Said it was a very smooth reacting ball. His only complaint was leaving a lot of ten's when he got it there. Overall, this ball gets through the front part with ease and makes a nice sharp, but controlled move to the pocket. Keep it out of the oil, it was not designed to be a oil ball. Of you are looking for something to get you through the front without a snappy reaction in the back, this is the ball.
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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #5 on: November 22, 2003, 03:27:51 PM
14# ball that started with about 2.5 oz top and a 3 inch pin. Pin was placed just a bit right of ring finger and the cg is almost stacked beneath it. Small weight hole on PAP.
This is a great ball when there is a defined dry area on the lane with head oil. It does need a bit of oil to get it through the heads or it breaks too early. When you have head oil with crisp backends the ball hits great! Hit suffers a great deal on carrydown, and you wouldn't even consider this ball on any significant oil.
Nice ball for the heavy handed when the backends are strong. A weaker handed player would probably have carry issues.
The Barbed Wire is highly condition specific, but very good on that condition. It tames strong backends and still carries.

I scuffed the ball with 600 grit sandpaper by hand just to take the shine off. The ball is useful on more conditions now as it can handle a bit more oil. On a short wet dry I score great with this ball. I have great pocket % with the ball on drier lanes or lanes with less than crisp backends but then it pings 10 pins like crazy. Not as versatile as I had hoped but very good on its condition.

I've taken the ball down to 1000 grit. Now the ten pin problem has largely gone away. It still gets through the heads no probem. This is the only ball I have that I can roll dull on a house shot. When the backends are overreacting I pull this baby out and it will stay right in the pocket without overhooking. If most modern balls seem too strong for you try this baby out. When you find the right cover prep you will kick some a**!!
6/7/04
I polished the Barbed wire back up since my Sonic X overlapped with it when the Barbed wire was dull and the Sonic carries better. With a mirror like sheen this is now my weakest reactive piece. The ball rolls great. Minimal hook and all arc. I just wished it carried better. I leave more taps with this than with any other ball I roll.

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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #6 on: December 20, 2003, 10:54:39 PM
Drilled with pin on centerline under the fingers, cg kicked a little right, with extra hole 7/8 by 1 1/2 deep on val 1 3/4" below my pap. Used it out of box and didnt really like the look. Scuffed it with a worn out green pad and HOLY CRAP! This ball has given me a look that I have had with very few balls. Since drilling this one i've shot 722, 710, 813, ect. And to think I hated Storm stuff. Well I love it now!

However, most people who have drilled this ball around here just dont like it. Why? I dunno.

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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #7 on: December 28, 2003, 06:28:21 PM
whats up all!!! i just got back into bowling after about a 11 year break.currently i've been throwing a columbia beast and the only way i can get any kind of hook is to wear my $50.00 storm wrist guard.now that i've settled down with wife and kids who all love the sport i treated myself to some new equipment.i ordered a storm fear factor and a storm barbed wire.i just got the storm barbed wire in a 15 lbs with a top weight of 3.42 and a pin of 2.5 to 3oz the sport has changed so much i went to a local pro that a coworker recommended and rolled my beast a few times and told him i wanted a ball that would have good lenght and a nice hook on the backend.again since i'm not up on all the science of drilling i pretty much left it in his hands,so we talked and agreed on the "leverage" drilling on storms drilling sheet.we placed the pin and cg 3 3/8 from the pap,this drilling did require a balance hole so we put it on the pap to remove excess side weight,and i did have inserts installed.WELL................HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS......................this ball is UNREAL 1st off i didnt need my wrist guard and even though my approach needs alot of work(alot)this ball tracked down the second arrow with great lenght and a nice hook at the backend and carried alot of energy into the pin deck.with the pro watching i threw 3 strikes in a row....no lie...my first turkey ever.he than gave me some pointers on how to improve even more and what to work on.the conditions were i guess you'd say house with light to med oil on synthetic lanes.since i had things to do today i only had time for one game but my score went up 20 pins .i cant wait to get my fear factor in and cant wait to go bowl again with the barbed wire.storm, i think makes the best ball on the market and would recommend it to everybody........this ball for these conditions is a 9.9 out of 10.0,i'm hoping my fear factor will work out the same but on heavier oil patterns.do yourself a favor and pick up a storm ball you wont be sorry.

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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #8 on: December 30, 2003, 10:28:24 PM

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Reply #9 on: January 02, 2004, 08:16:15 PM
This thing hits like a train and has a high visibility. You can always tell how the ball is going to react. Great soft arc on medium dry and a medium strong arc on dry. I don't know what the drilling pattern or pin placement is but this thing is a great ball. Storm is the best company out right now. Thanks to Dwight at A J Discount Proshop in Roseville Michigan for drilling up a great ball

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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #10 on: January 24, 2004, 11:29:10 AM



   I am a lefty that has quite a bit of hand, lots of revs and has decent ball speed 17-19mph and can play anywhere from 20 to the channel. i can get into 25 but that pushing it plus it never called for on left side. That said I drilled this ball last friday for something for dirt and i was not disappointed.  It hard to keep something in dirt when you have as much hand as I do.  I drilled it at zero with pin about an inch above bridge and cg just above center of palm.

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This gives basic idea how i drilled it.  I am quite impressed.  I can play in dirt again.  It doesnt matter how much i reak on this ball it still makes it little controlled turn to the pocket at about 50 foot and hits like a truck, not wuite the carry power of an infero or stinger low flare but great none the less. Recomend this ball for any crankers looking for something smooth.  People with less hand dont know if the carry power would be there.  I have let off some shots and it either didnt get to pocket or left a 7.  So that said I am still impressed with this ball, dont bring it out in med or heavy oil not what this ball meant for it will skid 60 feet.  Great dirt ball.  give this a solid 8 out of 10. Cant wait for the razor wire already got it ordered.
                       




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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #11 on: February 13, 2004, 02:27:26 PM
I got my Barbed Wire about a month back. My father drilled it similar to an AMF Ninja. He took a 3.5 inch pin and drilled it pin negative and the CG center. The Ball is weak and this made the ball weaker so that I can play down and in on Drier conditions. The ball will react to the condition and on tough condition where my other equipment is giving me over/under, this ball will react to the condition and allow me to take the condition out of play.

This is a good ball, but if you like to play the inside or the big swing and like to watch the ball hook I don't think that is the ball for you, but if like to play down and in you can use this ball and it will react without over reacting and hit like a truck.


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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #12 on: February 25, 2004, 01:48:27 AM
when the lanes get unplayable, this is the ball throw.  its controllable, powerful, and versatile.  it will flip over dry if you have the revs, and u can play a more direct line and still get the same carry.  if you throw mainly storm, like i do, your arsenal will not be complete without this ball.  its very condition-specific, but its worth it for late rounds in tournaments when the lanes are bone dry
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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #13 on: March 03, 2004, 02:57:45 PM
I got the barbed wire for the simple fact that the lanes here in lacrosse are more dry then oily.  I needed a ball that could simply get through the heads and remain smooth to the pocket.  I researched "barb" and decided to try her out.  This ball is great for dry lanes.  she remains smooth to the pocket where she has a snap that will knock everything out of the way.  she is also a very forgiving ball....i can pull it and its a rocket to the pocket...i can pitch out a little too much...she comes back like a train....nice price on this ball and a real quality ball....overall review....8 out of 10!
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Re: Barbed Wire
Reply #14 on: May 05, 2004, 07:10:45 PM
I got this ball six months ago for use as a dry lane ball and generally for more confusing patterns. I have found that I turn to it not only when the shot breaks down, but also when carrydown, unfamiliar patterns, or other factors cause the other balls in my limited arsenal (X Factor, Throttle Up, Trauma Response, original Cuda) to stop working for me. As you can see this is the only down-and-in style ball I have in my arsenal, and I rely on it heavily. I even used this ball at a county roll-off recently where the shot was flooded from 5 to 5, playing straight over the 2nd arrow.

I have been very satisfied with the Barbed Wire. I generally avoid using it on a fresh shot or heavy oil (aside from the unusual circumstances mentioned above, of course) as it will skid and fail to recover on these patterns. However if you give this ball just an inch or two of dry it will make a solid, predictable move every time. If you have a lot of hand, as I do, it will cut through sloppy backends and patchy lanes very consistently once it starts rolling.

My Barbed Wire is drilled to hook early (since the coverstock is weak) and make a medium/strong move. I'm afraid I don't have the specs on-hand but it's actually one of the standard layouts Storm recommends. We took it (pro-shop guy and I) from a Flash Point package, it was layout #4.

So, I particularly recommend this ball for bowlers with high speed and high revs who want a ball they can turn to when swinging their atomic stuff is getting them in trouble. By drilling it to go relatively early I'm able to keep throwing the ball hard and fast but count on this very smooth ball to make a strong move. On dry or broken down lanes I can get a lot of area and the ball will make it back if I miss outside. Also hits like a truck, best carrying ball I own on the conditions described.