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Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« on: February 16, 2017, 07:50:51 AM »
Hello bowling family!
First I would like to say that I love the Timeless and it is my first Storm ball also its the first one I touched and threw. As you can see by my weapons I throw Hammer. I am a new bowler that throws two handed. I stand on the 35 and aim for the 15. I can not hit the pocket with the Timeless. I moved to the right some boards and the ball still goes brooklyn. I even went to the 40. The conditions of the house shot was heavy. The ball is drilled for a no thumb lay out from Radical which all of my balls are drilled http://radicalbowling.com/news#news/a-radical-look-into-no-thumb-drill-patterns?&_suid=14872523482840270536300650148 .
So I threw my Scandal, Scandal Pearl and my Red legend pearl standing on 35 and aiming at 15 and it goes in the pocket. I know the Timeless is not stronger then either Scandals. I do not know about RLP. all balls are drilled the same (aggressive). Is there anything else I can try.I added speed,lowered speed etc. Could it be that the rest of the balls are 14 and the Timeless is 15? I know a video can tell all and I will go to the lanes tomorrow if there any lanes and take a video and post it.
On a side note: The ball smell great!
Thanks for all the help in advance.
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2017, 07:58:21 AM »
I would be interested to know how your Viral Hybrid performs on the shot.  Sounds like a classic case of your strong equipment being too strong.


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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2017, 08:12:34 AM »
I'm no guru but why did you go heavier? I tried a lighter ball and I threw it way to fast, I would have to assume the opposite with a heavier ball.
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2017, 08:29:01 AM »
Hello bowling family!
I stand on the 35 and aim for the 15.

What does "aim for 15" mean?  15th board where on the lane - at laydown, at the arrows, at the break point?  What is your breakpoint? 

I'm not trying to be a stickler/that guy but saying "aim for 15" really doesn't tell us much of anything.  If it's 15 at the arrows, do you spray and pray that the breakpoint is somewhere between 5 and 15 and end up in the pocket with the help of the trusty THS?  If you want help, we need all the particulars to help you out.

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2017, 08:46:30 AM »
Personally wondering if pears may have hit the issues. Is the ball speed lower with the 15 lbs. ball?

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2017, 10:26:21 AM »
I will answer the questions that gas been asked.
-I went to a 15LBS. ball cause I was doing wrist curls for 6 months and it feels like now that I am hurling the 14 so I decided to try a 15. When I tried a friends 15 before the wrist curls I was tired and my wrist hurt in the middle of the second game.
- I will throw the Viral Hybrid in the video and see what happens.
- I said aiming for the 15 board(arrow) when the correct bowling term is rolling the ball through 15 (I am new and bowling lingo is the struggle lol). My break point (I am guessing that is when the ball make the flip to the pins) I couldn't tell you that. I have to learn how to follow the ball down lane to see where it breaks at. I can tell you that sometimes it looks like its going in the gutter and then it flips back into the pocket (Scandal). I also sometimes look at the shadow of the 6 and 10 pin(on the floor) and throw it between the two (I don't know where the ball is rolloing cause my eyes is on the shadow of the pins)
- It could be a case of strong pieces are drilled to strong, but I figured that since my scandal is drilled strong and I did not have any problems with it.I have a Dark legend drilled to go Long and Strong and I couldn,t get with it. It went to long for me.
- I will post a video and throw different pieces because I know it's not the ball it is the bowler. I take all advice cause you'll will see things that I am doing wrong and help me straighten it out.
-I took coaching classes but the coach really did not know how to teach a two handed bowler.(waste of money)
-Ball speed SEEMS to be the same.

I'm just guessing here and I know it's hard with out a vdeo,but should I try rolling it threw 20 and have the break point at 10?

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2017, 10:28:59 AM »
I'm just guessing here and I know it's hard with out a vdeo,but should I try rolling it threw 20 and have the break point at 10?

I mean make the break point at 5
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2017, 11:23:01 AM »
I'm just guessing here and I know it's hard with out a vdeo,but should I try rolling it threw 20 and have the break point at 10?

I mean make the break point at 5

roll it wherever you get the best reaction. also, have even tried touching the surface first?
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2017, 11:46:31 AM »
Break the cover, probably speeds up off the dry and can't "get up the hill" in oil.
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2017, 02:44:57 PM »
"Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless"

"Driver error" sounds to be the case... in contrast, an equally true statement would be like, "I can't park the Camry"


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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2017, 03:00:59 PM »
U probably just need a set or 2 on the ball. Some factory polished storm stuff is very flippy and strong off the spot.

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2017, 06:41:00 PM »
Very unhappy with mt Timeless! I was looking forward to that ball coming out. Now maybe is the time to sell it!

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2017, 06:51:03 PM »
Better move fast before word gets out it's trash.
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2017, 09:12:15 PM »
I threw my Timeless last night and was very impressed with it. Hoping it tames down a little with a few games on it like billdozer mentioned. I definitely wouldn't say it's junk at all. No need to be a two hander either.

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2017, 09:41:19 PM »
Try posting a video of the issue. Lot easier when we can see what you are doing versus what you can see you are doing.
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