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djgook

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Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
on: February 16, 2017, 07:50:51 AM
Hello bowling family!
First I would like to say that I love the Timeless and it is my first Storm ball also its the first one I touched and threw. As you can see by my weapons I throw Hammer. I am a new bowler that throws two handed. I stand on the 35 and aim for the 15. I can not hit the pocket with the Timeless. I moved to the right some boards and the ball still goes brooklyn. I even went to the 40. The conditions of the house shot was heavy. The ball is drilled for a no thumb lay out from Radical which all of my balls are drilled http://radicalbowling.com/news#news/a-radical-look-into-no-thumb-drill-patterns?&_suid=14872523482840270536300650148 .
So I threw my Scandal, Scandal Pearl and my Red legend pearl standing on 35 and aiming at 15 and it goes in the pocket. I know the Timeless is not stronger then either Scandals. I do not know about RLP. all balls are drilled the same (aggressive). Is there anything else I can try.I added speed,lowered speed etc. Could it be that the rest of the balls are 14 and the Timeless is 15? I know a video can tell all and I will go to the lanes tomorrow if there any lanes and take a video and post it.
On a side note: The ball smell great!
Thanks for all the help in advance.
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #16 on: February 16, 2017, 09:44:13 PM
I Will try and get that up next week. Thanks!

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #17 on: February 17, 2017, 07:39:48 AM
There are so many variables you have to keep in mind: Oil pattern length & volume, ball speed (14lbs vs 15lbs), ball surface, breakpoint.  Is the Timeless hooking early and crossing over Brooklyn or is it making a huge move at the breakpoint? If it's all downlane then try knocking off the polish (2000 or 3000 abralon).  That should smooth out the reaction and make it easier to get to the pocket. 

The Timeless, for me, is not a ball I'm going to use on a fresh pattern.  It's a ball that I'm going to use after some breakdown occurs and I want to open up the lane. 
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #18 on: February 17, 2017, 07:47:48 AM
Better move fast before word gets out it's trash.

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #19 on: February 17, 2017, 10:59:57 AM
As a Hammer Head I am just wondering if Belmo logo wasn't on it and Hy Road was on the ball would it be a better ball? I read a lot of disappointment that this ball was not that Hy Road. Remember this is my first Storm ball and I know nothing about the Hy Road. I will admit that if this ball was not influenced by a two hander I would have purchased another Hammer ball.
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #20 on: February 20, 2017, 10:33:49 AM
No, it would probably have been seen as trying to milk the Hyroad name, and the response probably would have been about the same.  The Hyroad Solid was awful, and it got a similar response.  The Hyroad Pearl is spectacular though . .

And yes, the whole two hander thing is marketing.  Everyone wants to be a two hander now, so they're striking while the iron is hot.  Otherwise they'd have done the Norm Duke ball first, but no one wants to throw the ball like Norm Duke. 

As a Hammer Head I am just wondering if Belmo logo wasn't on it and Hy Road was on the ball would it be a better ball? I read a lot of disappointment that this ball was not that Hy Road. Remember this is my first Storm ball and I know nothing about the Hy Road. I will admit that if this ball was not influenced by a two hander I would have purchased another Hammer ball.
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #21 on: February 20, 2017, 10:44:13 AM
No, it would probably have been seen as trying to milk the Hyroad name, and the response probably would have been about the same.  The Hyroad Solid was awful, and it got a similar response.  The Hyroad Pearl is spectacular though . .

And yes, the whole two hander thing is marketing.  Everyone wants to be a two hander now, so they're striking while the iron is hot.  Otherwise they'd have done the Norm Duke ball first, but no one wants to throw the ball like Norm Duke. 

As a Hammer Head I am just wondering if Belmo logo wasn't on it and Hy Road was on the ball would it be a better ball? I read a lot of disappointment that this ball was not that Hy Road. Remember this is my first Storm ball and I know nothing about the Hy Road. I will admit that if this ball was not influenced by a two hander I would have purchased another Hammer ball.

Norm was playing inside of 4th arrow the last game of the TOC and shot 249...I'd like to throw it like Norm.

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #22 on: February 20, 2017, 11:45:58 AM
I'd rather throw it like norm than belmo
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #23 on: February 21, 2017, 07:50:37 AM
Lol show me a teenager that would rather throw it like Norm than Belmo and you'll have me convinced. 
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #24 on: February 21, 2017, 08:20:18 AM
Lol show me a teenager that would rather throw it like Norm than Belmo and you'll have me convinced. 

Teenagers are dumb. I have 2 living in my house lol
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #25 on: February 21, 2017, 08:56:33 AM
Lol show me a teenager that would rather throw it like Norm than Belmo and you'll have me convinced.

Mine would. Actually he'd like to throw it however it takes to strike consistently. It's taken him awhile to get there though.

He's working on getting better throwing urethane up 5 as much as moving left and adjusting that way.

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #26 on: February 21, 2017, 09:26:48 AM
Lol show me a teenager that would rather throw it like Norm than Belmo and you'll have me convinced. 

So basically you're saying that teenagers are the market for the Timeless?  All the adults that have bought one have been duped!!!

Seriously though, I get it.  To borrow the analogy from baseball, "Chicks dig the long ball" and morph it into "Chicks dig the big hook".  Because that's what sells...

It's just too bad though, there are bowlers who think they are going to get "Jason Belmonte's hook-in-a-box" from this ball. 


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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #27 on: February 21, 2017, 11:36:24 AM
I'd rather throw it like norm than belmo
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #28 on: February 21, 2017, 11:39:24 AM
To the OP, check out our video.  You will find a very high rev one-hander and two hander.  It will at least give you a sense how deep they had to be to play this ball on the medium THS we play on.  I think if you were on a true heavy shot, I doubt you would see the Timeless hook so much.

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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #29 on: February 21, 2017, 11:53:16 AM
Man O' man! Those last few videos that didn't make the cut, really tell a story.

This ball will really be a 50-50 crap shoot, depending on the operator!
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Re: Can not hit the pocket with the Timeless!
Reply #30 on: February 21, 2017, 01:03:41 PM
I just got rid of one, tell me about it, lol.  But yeah to whoever else said it . . chicks dig the long ball.  Bam. 

Lol show me a teenager that would rather throw it like Norm than Belmo and you'll have me convinced. 

Teenagers are dumb. I have 2 living in my house lol
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