Author Topic: Code Not Enough (Read 6077 times)

northface28 · « **on:** December 18, 2017, 01:12:34 PM »

Granted, I have about 10-12 games on this ball, at one house on the same pair that plays really cliffed. This ball 2 pin or 10 pins more than anything ive had in quite some time. Ive tried 4000, it was way too lazy, then 3000, better, but still too much up lane and not enough in the oil. If I ever need to shoot 200-210, this is going to be a great ball. On softer conditions, I dont think this ball strikes enough.

What is everyone elses thoughts on this ball? Getting pretty close to giving it to a youth bowler.

Luke Rosdahl · « **Reply #1 on:** December 18, 2017, 01:28:48 PM »

Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.

northface28 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 18, 2017, 01:34:53 PM »

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:28:48 PM

Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.

That would probably help, Code Red.

Luke Rosdahl · « **Reply #3 on:** December 18, 2017, 01:39:05 PM »

Code Red is a disaster on anything cliffed. It's smooth enough that it's actually better the flatter the shot gets for me, it's too over/under on "easier" stuff.

Quote from: northface28 on December 18, 2017, 01:34:53 PM

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:28:48 PM
Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.

That would probably help, Code Red.

northface28 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 18, 2017, 01:42:01 PM »

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:39:05 PM

Code Red is a disaster on anything cliffed. It's smooth enough that it's actually better the flatter the shot gets for me, it's too over/under on "easier" stuff.

Quote from: northface28 on December 18, 2017, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:28:48 PM
Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.

That would probably help, Code Red.

Yeah, I may get a Intense or a another NRP for house.

Luke Rosdahl · « **Reply #5 on:** December 18, 2017, 01:51:21 PM »

I actually lean more towards the NRP now than the Intense. Get wildly different looks out of the Intense depending on oil volume, NRP is more . . not necessarily consistent, it just either hooks more or hooks less, but the look on the lane is consistent. If I have enough volume, the Intense is an absolute monster, but on the drier side, it pukes all over the place, it's an all or nothing ball for me.

Quote from: northface28 on December 18, 2017, 01:42:01 PM

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:39:05 PM
Code Red is a disaster on anything cliffed. It's smooth enough that it's actually better the flatter the shot gets for me, it's too over/under on "easier" stuff.

Quote from: northface28 on December 18, 2017, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:28:48 PM
Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.

That would probably help, Code Red.

Yeah, I may get a Intense or a another NRP for house.

northface28 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 18, 2017, 01:54:46 PM »

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:51:21 PM

I actually lean more towards the NRP now than the Intense. Get wildly different looks out of the Intense depending on oil volume, NRP is more . . not necessarily consistent, it just either hooks more or hooks less, but the look on the lane is consistent. If I have enough volume, the Intense is an absolute monster, but on the drier side, it pukes all over the place, it's an all or nothing ball for me.

Quote from: northface28 on December 18, 2017, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:39:05 PM
Code Red is a disaster on anything cliffed. It's smooth enough that it's actually better the flatter the shot gets for me, it's too over/under on "easier" stuff.

Quote from: northface28 on December 18, 2017, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:28:48 PM
Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.

That would probably help, Code Red.

Yeah, I may get a Intense or a another NRP for house.

Good to know, looks like the initial aura of the intense wore off.

Luke Rosdahl · « **Reply #7 on:** December 18, 2017, 01:59:00 PM »

Kind of. Needs more volume than I initially realized, so it's a little too niche of a reaction to carry around everywhere unless you know it's going to be in play.

Quote from: northface28 on December 18, 2017, 01:54:46 PM

Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:51:21 PM
I actually lean more towards the NRP now than the Intense. Get wildly different looks out of the Intense depending on oil volume, NRP is more . . not necessarily consistent, it just either hooks more or hooks less, but the look on the lane is consistent. If I have enough volume, the Intense is an absolute monster, but on the drier side, it pukes all over the place, it's an all or nothing ball for me.

Quote from: northface28 on December 18, 2017, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:39:05 PM
Code Red is a disaster on anything cliffed. It's smooth enough that it's actually better the flatter the shot gets for me, it's too over/under on "easier" stuff.

Quote from: northface28 on December 18, 2017, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Luke Rosdahl on December 18, 2017, 01:28:48 PM
Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.

That would probably help, Code Red.

Yeah, I may get a Intense or a another NRP for house.

Good to know, looks like the initial aura of the intense wore off.

lefty50 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 18, 2017, 02:02:18 PM »

Well, live and learn. I'll admit, the Intense is the first ball I've bought on impulse due to the hype on review videos. Lesson learned, caveat emptor... All that stuff.

Luke Rosdahl · « **Reply #9 on:** December 19, 2017, 07:30:09 AM »

Yeah . . I still like mine, just hard to figure everything out about a ball when information and videos need to get out. Usually I don't run into this kind of ball that acts really different on different conditions. Hyroad Nano acts the same on everything, it just hooks more or less. Same with the All Out Show Off, same look everywhere. Intense is a different story.

Quote from: lefty50 on December 18, 2017, 02:02:18 PM

Well, live and learn. I'll admit, the Intense is the first ball I've bought on impulse due to the hype on review videos. Lesson learned, caveat emptor... All that stuff.

AlonzoHarris · « **Reply #10 on:** December 19, 2017, 09:53:43 AM »

I loved my Code Black...sold my Code Red after 3-4 sessions with it. It was a disaster on house shot. I didn't give it a fair shake on sport but I already hit the point where it wasn't worth keeping in my mind. I like my NRP much better on house shot than I did the Code Red.

JazlarVonSteich · « **Reply #11 on:** December 19, 2017, 10:11:01 AM »

I really like my Code Red on THS, but now that the box finish is gone on my Hy-road Nano, that ball is matching up perfectly for me. Like Luke said in his video, it just does everything right. I can see me buying more of them in the future. Still need to get the original as well.

As for the Intense vs NRP, definitely go with the NRP. It's just more versatile and will give you a consistent reaction. The Intense is good, but it's definitely a condition ball. I've used mine at box, 3000 dull, 2000 dull, and now 2000 with polish. It's just not a ball I can rely on on any given day. When the shot is there, it is really good. Otherwise, no.

LookingForALeftyWall · « **Reply #12 on:** December 19, 2017, 11:07:04 AM »

I thought the Intense was going to be an amazing ball for house bowlers after watching a 210-average bowler go 762 out of box. #smallsamplesize

However, what I've seen is a somewhat uneven and uncontrollable ball reaction for most house bowlers. In this way I see it as being similar to the Timeless (even though they both have unique ball motions).

Also from what I've seen, I like the Code Red. Maybe it's another IQ Tour Solid on THS for some but I've seen some fairly solid scores with it. I hate the phrase "Some balls just don't match up well with a particular bowler" but, yeah, might be time to throw in the towel before it costs too much bracket/eliminator money...

leftybowler70 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 19, 2017, 11:39:06 AM »

Although itâ€™s the market of today, the Code Red/Black is overpriced for the money spent to purchase when their far better options out there for less; I do find the code black the better version of the 2....

AlonzoHarris · « **Reply #14 on:** December 19, 2017, 11:45:56 AM »

Quote from: leftybowler70 on December 19, 2017, 11:39:06 AM

Although itâ€™s the market of today, the Code Red/Black is overpriced for the money spent to purchase when their far better options out there for less; I do find the code black the better version of the 2....

Last month to get a Code Black.

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northface28

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