I guess I am one of the only ones that can use the code red on virtually anything. I use to have a hyper cell skid pin below my middle finger which is around a 5 3/4 pin to pap for me and I swung the mass out about 50 degrees and that was the best ball I ever had to control wet/dry or black and white house shots but even was great on sport. When I got the code red hybrid covers never matched up to me very well so I stuck with that same layout and the code red is almost all I throw on house and later in the day at college tournaments. I have 2000 on it and it still shows angularity when need be but when it sees the friction it is still controllable and rolls heavily off of it. A lot of people I have seen has struggled a bit with this ball though and it does kind of shock me.

Quote from: AlonzoHarris on December 19, 2017, 11:45:56 AM

Quote from: leftybowler70 on December 19, 2017, 11:39:06 AM

Although it’s the market of today, the Code Red/Black is overpriced for the money spent to purchase when their far better options out there for less; I do find the code black the better version of the 2....

Last month to get a Code Black.

Where do you find out what balls are being discontinued? What’s the end date for the code black??

Usually through my PSO via whatever their source is, I'm assuming distributors with heads up for future orders. Larger sellers than my local pro shop, like the online retailers may have a decent on hand stock and offer it for a bit longer.

I almost bought a Code Black from Buddies last night. But started thinking in the back of my head “do I need another Intense or Code Red one game ball?” I got them as fun balls and did realize that they were on the Premeire novelty line. Was thinking maybe the Code Black could be an upgrade for my Hyroad Pearl if the price is right. Perhaps a  Code Solid will be released and that’s why the Code Black is being discounted.

On a side note:
I had 2 good games out of 3 with the Intense last night. Perhaps it was the bottle of Vodka I bought and shared with friends for a toast to winter solstice, my favorite pagean event; or the wisdom of hall of famer Barry telling me to just put my favorite surface on it and figure out where it likes to be rolled. So I did just that and the Intense told me it wanted to be played in the middle far left to right and showed me it’s stupid crazy carry. It was a fun night and I used it all 3 games. The Intense and I are friends now and have an accord.

I used mine as a step up from the Hy-Road Pearl, and it worked beautifully. Still has a big engine so you have to know when to move with it or put it away. I ruined what could have been a phenomenal set but not doing so. I went 279-258-155. The 155 consisted of so many pegged 10 9/'s and a big 4 leave, it got ugly, but that was on me.

Concur on the Code Red, nowhere near the money they ask for; My Freakshow (discontinued now)  which is designed for medium conditions at best, would handle more oil, and make it up the cliff more then the code red would  ( from me testing it myself).

Yes.  I generally like the out of box surface, but Code Red is too much on dry and not enough on oil.  Flatter the shot the better. 

Quote from: jkirkerx on December 24, 2017, 10:02:31 PM

Alonzo,

So far for me it’s been a one game wonder; but it’s starting to turn around now to a 2 game wonder. I remember when I shot 254 first game, then shot 132 with it. Week after I shot 130 game 1 then shot 200. Last Friday was 160 game 1 then 199 and 207. I’ll give it a try next week and see if I can get 3 even scores over 190.

I haven’t used the Code Red much yet. For some reason I’m more cautious about using it and prefer the Dare Devils over it. Last time the Code Red was out which was last Monday; it was really over/under so I put it away and will knock down the Polish this week.

A ball up from the Hyroad Pearl? I can see that. Currently I’m not really sure where to put mine. Right now I bagged it with the Marvel S and Marvel Pearl. Before that it pretty sat alone and before that had it bagged with Code Red and Dare Devil Trick.

Like I said, I was buying Motiv for 3 years and just need to figure out the 1500 Polish.

I think your doing great with yours, so keep up the good work!

1500 polish is the devil, just scuff the ball and re-polish when you get it. Ive successfully concluded the Code Red is terrible when the lanes is cliffed, better on flatter patterns when you need to keep the ball in front of you.