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militant02

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thoughts about code red vs. intense
on: November 06, 2017, 08:00:35 PM
to everyone who has thrown the code red vs. the intense how did they compare to you as far as length and back end reaction? i've read and seen quite a few reviews that seem to be all over the board. i like the reaction that i get from my code red which has a decent amount of length and smooth move off the spot but is better playing a more direct line because of its smoothness. the only way that it carries well from a inside line is after the oil really breaks down enough to help the code red finish with enough angle to take out the ten pin. i drilled my intense to be smoother than the code red but there is no comparison with how much stronger the intense reads any dry boards compared to the code red. i haven't been on a shot where moving inside and carrying extremely well with the intense was a problem. it makes me think that i should have switched the layouts for the two.

if anyone else has tried the two let me know what you observed.

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Re: thoughts about code red vs. intense
Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 09:59:32 PM
Not in the same universe for me.  Intense very strong and hooks throughout the lane, Code Red is very clean the whole way down the lane and strong but smooth on the backend.  Intense easily an arrow stronger. 
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Re: thoughts about code red vs. intense
Reply #2 on: November 07, 2017, 05:07:22 AM
^^ this

militant02

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Re: thoughts about code red vs. intense
Reply #3 on: November 07, 2017, 10:30:09 PM
ok, that's closer to the difference that i'm seeing between the two. it seemed strange to me that both bowling this month and the bowlers journal said that the intense has more length and was smoother than the code red at the breakpoint. even the staff members for storm's own review for the intense have differing views between the two.

now i'm wondering if i should plug my code red and redrill it with a lower drill angle and larger val angle so that it rolls earlier and doesn't go through the hook phase too quickly. although the code red was my favorite ball until the intense was released the one thing that i don't like about its reaction is that it seems to stand up too quickly and goes into more of a forward roll which tends to leave a lot of flat ten pins if i miss it at the bottom of my swing.

i'd like to have somewhat of a larger gap for the intense and code red and the two new pieces that i'd like to try, the daredevil danger and the all out show off. even though i can only make a guess at how the two newer balls will react i think that the code red needs to be kind of earlier so that it doesn't overlap too much with the newer equipment.

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jkirkerx

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Re: thoughts about code red vs. intense
Reply #4 on: November 07, 2017, 10:34:11 PM
Guess I am hi-jacking the ops post here. Looks like he done.

I bought the Intense but havent drilled it yet; still thinking about layout. Perhaps 4x4x3. Plus Im still thinking about getting a Code Red as well or perhaps getting the Code Red First.

So I bowl league on this double oil at night, fresh and stripped in the morning and oil again at night which creates this carry down thats really hard to create a bumper on before the end of game 3. I have rolled the Intense twice and it was a beast that needed oil for full functionality. After game 3, I was able to stand at 27 up 19 and it came back at 11 having to force it to get it out more.

Question:
So the Code Red is just smoother? Needs less oil to carry? A little weaker overall than the Intense. Ive never rolled a Code Red so I have no clue. I have a good idea of what capabilities the Intense may offer to me if Im right or lucky guessing and that 4x4x3 unstable layout keeps it smooth.

I was thinking of using one of them to try and open up the pair or at least move in to keep the carry going. Im sort of rolling the dice here for which one first and what purpose.


Last Edit: November 07, 2017, 11:01:45 PM by jkirkerx
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Re: thoughts about code red vs. intense
Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 12:19:06 AM
Guess I am hi-jacking the ops post here. Looks like he done.

I bought the Intense but havent drilled it yet; still thinking about layout. Perhaps 4x4x3. Plus Im still thinking about getting a Code Red as well or perhaps getting the Code Red First.

So I bowl league on this double oil at night, fresh and stripped in the morning and oil again at night which creates this carry down thats really hard to create a bumper on before the end of game 3. I have rolled the Intense twice and it was a beast that needed oil for full functionality. After game 3, I was able to stand at 27 up 19 and it came back at 11 having to force it to get it out more.

Question:
So the Code Red is just smoother? Needs less oil to carry? A little weaker overall than the Intense. Ive never rolled a Code Red so I have no clue. I have a good idea of what capabilities the Intense may offer to me if Im right or lucky guessing and that 4x4x3 unstable layout keeps it smooth.

I was thinking of using one of them to try and open up the pair or at least move in to keep the carry going. Im sort of rolling the dice here for which one first and what purpose.

After putting 5-8 games on a Code Red on wood and synthetics, I'm not quite sure I would suggest it as a ball to move in and open up with. It seems like it prefers to be played more up the boards.
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Re: thoughts about code red vs. intense
Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 07:11:48 AM
Code Red is just a smoother ball, that's the thing about both it and the Black is that they have pretty weak covers on them.  On Storm's hook scale, R2S is like 5th from the bottom and there's like 15 stronger covers that they make.  When you pair that with the strongest core they make, you get a ball that looks really aggressive to the eye but ultimately isn't.  You have to just trust it to get down the lane.  It looks like it's chewing and is going to turn sideways but then doesn't.  Intense on the other hand will, R3S is much stronger than R2S. 
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jkirkerx

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Re: thoughts about code red vs. intense
Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 06:43:02 PM
Alright, Got It.

This may be a lame comparison cause you never seen me bowl or have bowled in my league;

But the Code Red would be like my Dare Devil Trick in which I use pretty straight up 10 and move in to 15 and when it starts coming up short switch to the Intense and keep the carry going.

Now I just have to figure out a pin down layout for the Code Red.

Thanks for the input guys!

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Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 06:47:33 PM by jkirkerx
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Re: thoughts about code red vs. intense
Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 11:37:40 AM
I just bought the Intense. I went with a pin even layout. For me the result is a smooth and strong arc. I have left OOB so far, I may change the cover , but I want to get a few more games on it untill I change it. I have had the C/R since Sept.  IMO -- I will start with my Intense then switch to my C/R after the lanes transition. I can play a more down/in or straighter with the C/R then my Intense.  It may very from bowler due to rev rate and style, but this is how they react for me.
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jkirkerx

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Re: thoughts about code red vs. intense
Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 05:25:12 PM
I finally drilled mine up 4x4x2 last Saturday and took it for a 45 min spin on the pair. Didn't do too well at first leaving 10 pins and splits out of the box playing the middle. But then the ball created some carry down, it started carrying and moved me out a bit. After bowling I dumped the box finish because I'm not fond of polish and did 500/1000 and a light coat of extender. I'm OK with the results because I got it for night play on that double oil.

My friends that watched and played the pair with me got a pretty bad look at the ball's performance until I got online with it.

I'll give it a try next Friday night and see how it does. Then consider a layout for the Code Red and Drill it.

On a side note, all the balls I got to choose from were 3.5-4.0" pin. I wanted drill it pin down but 4x4x3 put the pin in my ring finger and 4x4x2 gave me a nice pin up so I went with the latter. I get this feeling Storm wants a pin up layout.

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Scratch League Lineup: Dare Devil Trick, Danger, Hyper Sniper

Watch List: Hyroad Nano, SONIQ, Dare Devil OG, Surelock.