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beeker

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I just ordered two new centaurs....
« on: April 20, 2004, 01:01:38 AM »
I received a few e-mails from Visionary with the information on the new green Centaur.  It's going to be a solid reactive like the Charcoal Executioner with the DC core.  They said it will be the most versatile ball in their line up.  I ordered 2, one for myself and one for my pro-shop owner.  He doesn't carry Visionary so I am buying him one to try out. They are not shipping them until April 28.   Unfortunately it will be here after my league is done for the year.  At least I will have all summer to practice with it.  I will post a review once it comes in and I roll a few games with it.

 

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2004, 08:26:47 PM »
DC Core?? um, that is a little surprising considering on more than one occassion they publicly stated that they would not re-use the core design.
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2004, 09:34:43 PM »
Sounds like a true ball for medium to medium heavy oil patterns IF it has the real DC core!
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2004, 10:09:04 PM »
Most definately will be stronger than the Char Exe if it does in fact have the DC core. Maybe people will finally realize the power of this core and how complex it really is.


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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2004, 10:24:09 PM »
Now that has got my attention.  Just got a hold of a used Warlock DC Tour
a couple of months ago. What a sweet ball. Love the roll, and hit.
I will definately have to get a Centaur to go along with my Gargoyles
and the DC Tour.

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beeker

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2004, 10:38:46 AM »
I believe Fencer04 is correct, it's a modified DC core.  I am at work now but if I have time tonight I will try to copy and post the e-mail from Visionary.  For some reason I can't access e-mails that I have already opened on my home computer from my computer at work.  I do remember that the cover is going to be 1000 grit out of the box.  They said that people with hand will do well on medium conditions and those without will do well on light conditions.  They also said that sanding or polishing the cover will work well for different conditions.  Anyway, I will post the e-mail tonight.

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2004, 04:51:32 PM »
Ok, this is really good information and all, but where does it fit in Visionary's line-up? I'm hearing  someone say that it's on par with the Charcoal EX. and someone else is saying that if you can put some hand in the ball, you'll be able to handle...mediums??? Okaaayyyy.

To be truthfully honest with you guys, if VPB isn't using the Centaur to replace anything in their line-up, why would they aim at the medium lane conditions again? They have the Greenie, Crimson EX, Blue Sparkle, Purple EX, and the G-3. If you can't find a line with any these balls on medium conditions...well, jeez!


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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2004, 07:31:08 AM »
Shoutout, no one said it was on par w/ the CharcoalX, they said it was going to be a solid reactive "like the CX"

I agree with the rest of your post though....VBP is very slow to update their website!
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2004, 08:04:46 AM »
Shoutout,

If the Centaur has a cover anything like the Charcoal Exec, but has the DC core, it is only rational to assume that it must be able to handle 1/2 to a full degree more oil than the Charcoal did. Plus, the DC core is a lot stronger than the Executioner core: it has more flare and I strongly suspect the Mass Bias offset is considerably stronger also.
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2004, 10:15:37 AM »
Ok Jeff and Charles...you win. (sigh) I guess I'm just anxious to see where this ball will fit in VBP's arsenal so I can make a decision to see if I'd get now or later. Ok, how about this. Do you all think that it will move as much as the Burgandy? Me, I honestly doubt it, but think about it. If it moves (hypothetically speaking...) more than the Charcoal EX, wouldn't that put it in the med. heavy oil oil category? Yeah, I know you have to take in consideration drilling, coverstock preparation, and location but if this is the case, where else could you put it? Is there that big a gap between the Burgandy and the Charcoal EX?
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2004, 11:01:57 AM »
The ball is a modified DC core due to being modifiedto become an extremely low differential (.016), thus giving it a much lower flare potential

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2004, 05:15:10 PM »
so wtf? a solid control ball on dirt?

beeker

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2004, 02:17:32 AM »
Ok.  Here is the e-mail I received from Visionary.

Dear Test Staff Member,

     The following is information on the new release of the centaur:

     Core Design:
           This core is a modified version of our original DC Core.  By removing the bottom cap, thickening the neck at the top, making the inner portion all one density and then wrapping it with a light spherical wrap, we were able to create a dynamic core with an extremely low differential.

                                                 Low RG:     2.61"
                                             Differential:     .015"

             This change in core design makes the ball much more driller friendly, and most bowlers should be able to use their favorite drilling on this ball without being to concerned with killing the reaction.

     Coverstock Design:
              The shell on this ball is a new Green/Blue Solid Reactive coverstock.  This new coverstock is very user friendly and can be easily adjusted to fit anyone's style.  Out of the box, this ball will be 1,000 matte (gray scotchbrite Pad), but don't be afraid to polish or scuff it as needed for different reactions.

     General Notes:
             Due to the extremely low differential, this ball will have less flare potential than a lot of our previous balls.  Out of the box, bowlers with a lot of hand should have success on most medium oil patterns, while bowlers with less hand may need to have slightly drier conditions for it to excel.  Scuffed up, this ball will begin to roll earlier and provide a strong, continuous arc to the pocket allowing it to handle more oil.  Polished this ball will go very long, and be more snappy on the backends.
             This ball should be a nice general purpose ball for most bowlers, being dominant on most house conditions.  This may quickly become the first ball out of your bag.

They also sent me a a picture of the ad that will be sent out to pro-shops.  I don't know how to post a pic so I guess you guys will have to wait until the 28th when Visionary has it on their site.  I hope this info helps...


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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2004, 08:19:06 AM »
Low RG: 2.61"
Differential: .015"


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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2004, 11:45:46 AM »
Alright! A benchmark ball! I take back any earlier confusion on my part. Well, I know I have to wait to see the reviews so I'm going to be paitent and see what everyone has to say about it.
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