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Author Topic: "Liquid Core" ball  (Read 3211 times)

Beef STL

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"Liquid Core" ball
« on: October 16, 2005, 05:18:22 AM »
We just had this announced at a tournament here in St. Louis about how Visionary just got the approval for a new ball that you pour your own core in.  I don't know the details of it, but apparently if you leave it for an hour, it's for dry lanes, for 3 hours, it's for medium lanes, and overnight it hooks a lot.  I guess it's how long you wait before you plug it or something.  It's an interesting idea, but when I first heard it, it reeks of shenanigans.  The idea of people pouring their  own core makes the possiblity of cheating increase many times over.

Anyone else's opinions on this?  Has anyone heard details about this?




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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2005, 01:33:30 PM »
This is the first time I'm hearing about it. Like you said, allot of possibilities for cheating. For that reason I don't think it will happen.
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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2005, 01:38:21 PM »

Well, we were told yesterday that USBC gave the approval for it...


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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2005, 01:39:28 PM »
Wait......They are trying to "restore integrity" and they allow a ball that could be used for cheating???

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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2005, 02:14:07 PM »
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Well, we were told yesterday that USBC gave the approval for it...


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What was the USBC smoking when they approved that???

Do they want people to cheat??
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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2005, 02:55:03 PM »
Not sure what im think about this subject..some hours difference to make the ball react diffrent sounds BS.
And how do you check so someone dont have put some metal etc in the core? Why USBC allows this is a mystery for me..

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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2005, 03:30:05 PM »
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Yeah, but that's an odd joke though, right?
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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2005, 03:49:05 PM »
i bet if lane#1 came up with this core it would be banned(not approved).
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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2005, 08:11:57 PM »
This isnt BS guys I was at the same tournament as Ricky. I actually put some raffle tickets in for some ball(s) visionary was giving away at the tourney. The idea really doesn't make sense to me but I heard the same thing. I'm interested to see where this goes...
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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2005, 08:32:22 PM »
Let somebody with a degree in physics respond to this one.  First of all, there are so many flaws in this post that I don't even know where to start.  

1st:  What do you mean by leave it for an hour???  OK, If you leave it for an hour it is a dry lane ball.  What happens two days later when it "hooks a lot"???

2nd:  All cores must meet USBC RG and Diff regulations, can we be sure that these balls will meet regulations when we "pour our own cores"???

3rd:  What should I do when a person brings me a ball that he/she poured by themselves??? What are they putting in the core??? What if somebody takes a $h!T in the core, is it my responsibility to make sure that it conforms to USBC regulations?

I have contacted Visionary about this and they don't seem to know anything about this.
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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2005, 08:35:00 PM »
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This isnt BS guys I was at the same tournament as Ricky. I actually put some raffle tickets in for some ball(s) visionary was giving away at the tourney. The idea really doesn't make sense to me but I heard the same thing. I'm interested to see where this goes...
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If it really is true and you two aren't just teaming up to pull one over on us, then Visionary must have the best engineers in the business.  I just can't even think of how to make a ball where pouring a core and letting it sit for some amount of time determines it's reactivity.  What about the cover?  Wouldn't that suggest that cover is nearly irrelevant since you can apparently use the same cover for a toast ball and a 60' flood monster??...

Just don't make sense...
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2005, 08:36:36 PM »
It has been said that cover accounts for 90% of the reaction.
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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2005, 08:57:50 PM »
hey somebody said april fools this hole things a joke and you guys are the joke. the guy who posted this is laughing at you guys. pour your own core and usbc aprroved looked what they did to lane one come on guys think.

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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2005, 09:08:12 PM »
(SARCASM ON)Why dont they just make/approve a ball with interchangable cover stock, thus eliminating the need for more than one ball???(SARCASM OFF)
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Re: "Liquid Core" ball
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2005, 09:20:34 PM »
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I don't see how leaving it for a period of time THEN drilling it would affect anything, because whether or not you leave it for an hour, 3, or over night its gonna be in there forever reguardless.  Or do you pour it back out?


I was wondering the same exact thing...
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Which is why this is 99.9% chance of pure BS, or like I said Visionary has the greatest minds at work.

Oh well, good work Ricky, you've gotten some people riled up and others just scratching their heads.
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