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Author Topic: I just ordered two new centaurs....  (Read 2648 times)

beeker

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I just ordered two new centaurs....
« on: April 20, 2004, 01:01:38 AM »
I received a few e-mails from Visionary with the information on the new green Centaur.  It's going to be a solid reactive like the Charcoal Executioner with the DC core.  They said it will be the most versatile ball in their line up.  I ordered 2, one for myself and one for my pro-shop owner.  He doesn't carry Visionary so I am buying him one to try out. They are not shipping them until April 28.   Unfortunately it will be here after my league is done for the year.  At least I will have all summer to practice with it.  I will post a review once it comes in and I roll a few games with it.

 

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2004, 11:39:16 PM »
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Sent you a link to check out.




Could you post the link for ALL of us?

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2004, 12:23:58 AM »
here is the link for the new visionary ball
http://www.visionarybowling.com/images/TestStaffCentaurInfo.html

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2004, 12:54:41 AM »
so does anyone have official rg and diff. numbers on this ball and what coverstock they used on it?
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2004, 01:58:31 AM »
that looks really cool, i hate the logo though

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2004, 11:42:24 AM »
Ok, so even if it isn't a benchmark ball (this depends on the person of course...), I can use it for light oil conditions...hmmmmm. Sounds like I CAN have that control ball for the lighter oil conditions. Still have to wait to see what folks say, but it sounds to me that I can use this ball to replance the G-3 I originaly wanted in my line up. (G-3 for lighter oil conditions, underneath the Sparkle...) I really don't like skid/snap balls that much and it seems that this ball will be more of a control freak than anything else. Like Charlest said, will just have to wait and see.
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2004, 02:37:31 PM »
um, Charlest i want you to chime in on this ponder too just incase.

am i the only one that makes the connection to the Ebonite TPC Warrior and this ball??

Similar( not the same) but visually it could be mistaken for the propeller core, and even the color too. It is a pearl resin, just as the warrior was, only much cheaper.
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2004, 10:02:02 AM »
The DC core always reminded me a bit of an Omega core on 'baseball juice' Anyway low diff don't always mean 'weak' ball eg Pulse, Code Red from the old days and Big Blue now.
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2004, 03:48:20 PM »
Alrighty ladies and gentlemen (using those terms loosely)

BBR.com and Visionarybowling.com both have the info and pic's of the new Centaur up.

http://www.visionarybowling.com/

http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2329
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charlest

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2004, 06:20:26 PM »
The Dude wrote (way back when)

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um, Charlest i want you to chime in on this ponder too just incase.

am i the only one that makes the connection to the Ebonite TPC Warrior and this ball??

Similar( not the same) but visually it could be mistaken for the propeller core, and even the color too. It is a pearl resin, just as the warrior was, only much cheaper.
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If Visionary had left the core as the true DC COre, with all that flare and (my buess) large mass bias, then I would have said it was generally similar to the idea behind the Ebonite "propeller". But as we can now see from what Visionary has described on their website, the RG Differential is now extremely low (see the core on the new Columbia Super Trooper. Well, not the pictire BUT the actuare RG Differential - also VERY low.).

SO basically we have a dull resin CONTROL ball with a high RG (for some length) and a low differential. I'd guess the difference between it and the Super Trooper I mentioned above is that the Super Trooper has a polished solid resin cover and low RG. Pick your poison; I think both sould be veyr good medium to drier lanes balls.

My other opinion is that this is Visionary's replacement for the Purple Ice whose performance confused and mystified a lot of people. I have a feeling that thi smay be a fairly versatile ball for the intelligent bowler, with or without a lot of revs. With a high RG it won't be necessary to place the pin high above the bridge. I wonder if a pin on the PAP might also make a great rolling ball. Still some many possibilities.
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2004, 10:01:55 PM »
Well if were to take the place of the purple Ice, then yes it would not really be a complete replacement, more like an evolution. The purple ice seemed to sometimes over slide, but other situations out hook the black executioner.


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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2004, 08:52:50 AM »
Replacements are usually not intended to do exactly what the original did. Since the Purple Ice was a less than popular ball, I can only assume that the Centaur is/will be/seems to be planned to be more of what the PI was supposed to be. Now if Visionary has priced the ball in the same neighborhood as Columbia's Super Trooper, then we will have some competition. (At least I see these 2 balls are being somewhat similar in intent, if not in execution; we'll see when people start to use them and report on them.)
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2004, 05:54:04 AM »
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I was going to run out and buy a Super Trooper, but now with the specs of the Centaur, I am going to have to wait a little bit.
It is interesting to me that two totaly different companies have such a similiar idea.  

Mike Hunt!


Mike,

Be aware that their low RG differential is the common link between these balls but they have more dissimilarities than similarities.
The Centaur comes dull, while the Super Trooper comes polished.
The Centaur's RG is high, about 2.61, while
the Super Trooper RG's is low, about 2.48 (16 lb) - 2.50 (15 lb).

Of course, their cover's being solid resin are easily modifiable. That would leave their basic RG as a major difference.
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2004, 07:25:04 PM »
I was very interested in this ball the first time I saw the core, but now...frankly, if they had left the D.C. core alone, I might have bought it.  I don't need a heavy core control ball with minimal track flare.  Of course, what do I KNOW?
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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2004, 11:40:35 AM »
has any body received there new centaur ball as yet
if so what is you take on the new ball

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Re: I just ordered two new centaurs....
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2004, 12:47:08 PM »
Just got mine yesterday.

Waiting to see what others have to say before I decide how to have it drilled.
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