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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: charlest on July 25, 2017, 04:19:25 PM
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Given the specs of the Honey Badger's 14 lb. core, I strongly suspect the 14 lb. ball will be almost completely different in ball reaction and in oil handling from the 15 lb. and 16 lb. versions.
Has anyone yet drilled up a 14 lb. HB and what did you find:
- how much oil can it handling?
- what does it breakpoint look like, on true medium oil?
Of course, we need to know your release/delivery specs and how you drilled it
Thanks.
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Wow, don't normally see that difference between 14 & 15/16. You do when you get below 14. As one who throws 13 lbs, most reviews don't mean so much to me. Coverstock does, otherwise I look at rg and diff on the manufacturers website for the weight I am using, and use those in my decision. I would expect reviews on Honey Badger to be of little use for a 14 lb ball
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Wow, don't normally see that difference between 14 & 15/16. You do when you get below 14. As one who throws 13 lbs, most reviews don't mean so much to me. Coverstock does, otherwise I look at rg and diff on the manufacturers website for the weight I am using, and use those in my decision. I would expect reviews on Honey Badger to be of little use for a 14 lb ball
And that's exactly why I posed this question.
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Of course
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with those core numbers,that tall core and a strong polished pearl cover it screams skid/flip to me.
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I bet numbers are going to lie when it comes to predicting ball motion on this one. Every time I see it, I'm more and more impressed.
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I bet numbers are going to lie when it comes to predicting ball motion on this one. Every time I see it, I'm more and more impressed.
But have you seen anyone throwing the 14 lb. version?
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Global describes it as skid/snap . the ball screams skid snap. it's most likely skid/snap. if it had a short fat core I would be interested.
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I bet numbers are going to lie when it comes to predicting ball motion on this one. Every time I see it, I'm more and more impressed.
But have you seen anyone throwing the 14 lb. version?
No, I have not, but let me tell you about a little ball I love, called the Link. 2.61, 0.030, 0.005 rocking S30. On mediums, I could really open up the lane and the ball had no quit to it.
Now, 14 lbs HB is 2.64, 0.020, and 0.003 with S71. Slightly higher RG, slightly lower diff. Strong flippy shell on it. The ball is going to push easy and when it sees friction isn't going to flare out.
I can't wait for someone to throw one to set everyone's mind at ease.
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I bet numbers are going to lie when it comes to predicting ball motion on this one. Every time I see it, I'm more and more impressed.
But have you seen anyone throwing the 14 lb. version?
No, I have not, but let me tell you about a little ball I love, called the Link. 2.61, 0.030, 0.005 rocking S30. On mediums, I could really open up the lane and the ball had no quit to it.
Now, 14 lbs HB is 2.64, 0.020, and 0.003 with S71. Slightly higher RG, slightly lower diff. Strong flippy shell on it. The ball is going to push easy and when it sees friction isn't going to flare out.
I can't wait for someone to throw one to set everyone's mind at ease.
Yes, I remember that unusual core.
My fear is that with such a strong cover on the HB compared to the Link, the HB will have a very flippy backend.
I have a ball, somewhat similar to the link, called the AMF Orbit Extreme, with a somewhat milder, smoother core: RG of 2.6, Diff of .024", veyr useful for fairly dry lanes. Goo carry power with its F35 coverstock.
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Well, the Orbit Extreme had a very elliptical core. Very X ish. The cores in both the HB and the Link were much taller. When that tall core finds it's PSA, it changes direction much quicker than the elliptical shape.
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I have a friend who is on staff and has seen 15s and 14s go down the lane. I told him I was interested in this ball, and I throw 14. He assured me that they look pretty similar going down lane. I have not seen it for myself, but I trust him enough to believe him. I still plan to get one at some point, but I have some other balls I want to get first.
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Well, the Orbit Extreme had a very elliptical core. Very X ish. The cores in both the HB and the Link were much taller. When that tall core finds it's PSA, it changes direction much quicker than the elliptical shape.
Agreed, 110%
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I have a friend who is on staff and has seen 15s and 14s go down the lane. I told him I was interested in this ball, and I throw 14. He assured me that they look pretty similar going down lane. I have not seen it for myself, but I trust him enough to believe him. I still plan to get one at some point, but I have some other balls I want to get first.
Very interesting. Thank you. I am surprised, but accepting, at this point in time.
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Well, the Orbit Extreme had a very elliptical core. Very X ish. The cores in both the HB and the Link were much taller. When that tall core finds it's PSA, it changes direction much quicker than the elliptical shape.
Agreed, 110%
You know, now that I compared the 2, I'm ever more excited to drill one up!!
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Charlest, forgive me if this is hijacking the thread.
Impending Doom, you mentioned that the core will push easy, and not overflare. Do you believe that will be the case even for the 16 lb model?
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Charlest, forgive me if this is hijacking the thread.
Impending Doom, you mentioned that the core will push easy, and not overflare. Do you believe that will be the case even for the 16 lb model?
I've used the Clutch Pearl for years, and the numbers for the 15lb CP are almost identical to the 16lb HB. .051 will flare more, but not in the area of higher diffs. If I threw man weight, I would drill it a little weaker to get some more lope, but not too much. The core is what makes that ball great.
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I recently watched Pajak win the PWBA Greater Detroit Open with the HB and the ball looked good and flippy. I don't know if it was 14 or 15 but if it was 15 then I'd imagine it will only be more extreme in 14.
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I recently watched Pajak win the PWBA Greater Detroit Open with the HB and the ball looked good and flippy. I don't know if it was 14 or 15 but if it was 15 then I'd imagine it will only be more extreme in 14.
I saw that show; she got a lot of breaks that the others didn't. Wonder if they were related to her use of the HB and her balls speed. Could almost guarantee it was 15 lbs. though.
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That ball did look great in her hands.
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a few good breaks but also converted some tough spares so I won't give the ball all the credit. It looks like a great skid/flip ball though.