Post by: TheDude on August 14, 2008, 05:30:17 AM
Products will be for sale worldwide with the exception of the USA. Sorry, still can't sell it in the states. However we will be providing competitive pricing for the entire 900 Global line for the rest of the world. Shipping to europe, Asia, and Canada will be offered.
Its a bit of a teaser post but I had to do it. I've been sitting on this for nearly a month.
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Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta.
Located inside Ed''s Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
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Keep them honest!
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Post by: ValentinoBowling on August 14, 2008, 01:31:25 PM
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Post by: TheDude on August 14, 2008, 03:35:40 PM
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Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec
Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta.
Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
King Of Roto-Grip In Canada.
Keep them honest!
www.juniorsproshop.com(coming soon)
Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 14, 2008, 05:14:40 PM
Post by: novawagonmaster on August 14, 2008, 09:58:32 PM
Damn, this sucks. I have to pay retail to drill my own balls
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aka: Rico Swervé~
Post by: Lefty_bowler on August 15, 2008, 11:18:43 AM
quote:
My wife speaks and teaches French. We have a room devoted to her work. PM me and I will provide a ship to address in Ohio...er...I mean FRANCE
Damn, this sucks. I have to pay retail to drill my own balls
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
I second that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: luv2C10falll on August 15, 2008, 04:41:40 PM
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Post by: jls on August 16, 2008, 11:09:52 AM
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Never pay retail to drill your own balls.There are many balls to fill the 900 global line.One day they(900 global) will wise up and make it possible to get them cheaper.....Ebay
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Give it a rest.
In most cases you can go to a pro shop and buy a 900global ball and get it fitted and drilled for about the same price you would pay if you bought another brand online and then PAID to have it drilled.
Sure you can buy other brands online, but you still need to get them drilled.
And when you do the math, in most cases you end up paying about the same as a 900global sells for fitted and drilled.
Now of course there are some shops that charge a ridiculious price. But that is not the norm today. Most pro shops are pretty much onboard with their prices.
900global is doing just find. In July I sold more Break S75, then I did most top name brand models. And July is a slow month!!!
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Post by: wick3d on August 16, 2008, 11:41:38 AM
Post by: luv2C10falll on August 16, 2008, 12:45:35 PM
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Post by: joe 26 on August 16, 2008, 01:01:16 PM
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Sorry jls...I drill my own an for about 10 of my friends.I would love to drill up a Break pearl,just wont pay retail for it.My friends dont want to pay retail either.We just like to save money(I only charge them 10$ to drill them)when we can
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
I don't think anyone wants to pay retail.
Post by: jls on August 16, 2008, 02:41:32 PM
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Sorry jls...I drill my own an for about 10 of my friends.I would love to drill up a Break pearl,just wont pay retail for it.My friends dont want to pay retail either.We just like to save money(I only charge them 10$ to drill them)when we can
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Try this then, go into a pro shop. Tell them you want to buy 3-4 or 10 Breaks undrilled. Lets just say their price is $199 drilled. Maybe they will cut you a deal on these balls undrilled. Maybe $149.
Now correct me if I am wrong, but no where have I heard that pro shops must sell this ball at a certain price. They should be all free to set the price they want, just as long as they don't sell it online!!!!
Heck, If I was in your area and you wanted 10 of these balls, I would sell them to you at a undrilled price. Just not online.
BTW, the price of a ball should be weighed against the money you may win with said ball. In this case, even paying $200 is well worth it.
good luck
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Edited on 8/16/2008 2:43 PM
Post by: luv2C10falll on August 16, 2008, 06:13:42 PM
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Post by: jls on August 18, 2008, 10:42:24 AM
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A good friend of mine owns a pro shop.Im all for him makin money,I even send people his way for balls an lesson's.He is very good at what he does.He is a very good coach.I dont try to take work or money from him.Being self employed myself I know what running a business is all about.He has been hurt by all of the internet sales.It is a hard business now with people being able to get balls cheap off ebay.Sometimes you have to adjust your business to the changing surroundings in order to keep up.I know I have in my business
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Well let me ask you this, What are you willing to pay for a top model 900global ball, that sells for about $200.00 drilled in pro shops?
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Post by: Lefty_bowler on August 18, 2008, 11:54:49 AM
Post by: luv2C10falll on August 18, 2008, 03:04:46 PM
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Post by: luv2C10falll on August 18, 2008, 03:11:46 PM
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Post by: jls on August 18, 2008, 03:55:09 PM
quote:
Just an example....Just got a Morich levrg for 84$ shipped.Will drill it wed. for my pba exper. league on friday.The ball should be as good as when it first came out,but not the hot ball now.Also trying morich again.Didnt have good luck with the first one a few yrs ago,which was probibly me(I drilled it).Got drilling spec's sraight from morich this time.
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Well I understand, but you are comaparing a closeout to a brand new model.
That is what Mega May would do. Sure that is a good price, but how old is the ball???
The Taylormade Tour Burner driver is selling for $299. I am sure if I wait another year or so, it will be $149. And if you wait a little longer the ball you just got will be even less.
But I thought you said you and some of your friends wanted to try a new top line ball from Global. I guess I thought you meant a current model.
In the last few weeks I have sold 4 or 5 of their new ball, the Break S75. One Bowler has allready won big bucks with it!!!!! In other words, he has paid for that ball allready, many times over. Kinda sorta thinking he is glad he didn't wait two years for it to be on closeout.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Edited on 8/18/2008 3:56 PM
Post by: Kid Jete on August 18, 2008, 04:01:20 PM
Post by: TheDude on August 18, 2008, 04:34:32 PM
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Man it's a good thing this is a predominantly Canadian website.
Sorry alot of them are debating the rules that Phil has placed down on us but im going to up hold them as best I can. If you have cousins in canada your lucky.
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Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shops
LaSalle, Quebec
Located inside Pont Mercier Lanes.
Edmonton, Alberta.
Located inside Ed's Rec Room.(WEST ED MALL)
King Of Roto-Grip In Canada.
Keep them honest!
www.juniorsproshop.com(coming soon)
Post by: luv2C10falll on August 18, 2008, 06:57:42 PM
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Post by: jls on August 19, 2008, 09:05:51 AM
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You know jls,it comes down to 900 global runs their company how they think is best.Which only they know whats best for them.And I spend my money how I wish,thats what makes this nation great an one day I will put some holes in a shiny new Break pearl an will love how it goes down the lane
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
All I am saying is this, if you go online and buy any new top line current ball, you will pay about $125-$145 undrilled. As you now can see, you can buy a global top line ball for about the same price undrilled. So what is the problem.
However you are comparing a brand new model from Global to an old disc. model from Morich. That to me is unfair. Of course the old disc. model will be less. But your right, spend your money anyway you want.
But to bash Global for selling something that you can indeed buy at just about the same price as any other NEW top line ball undrilled, is unfair.
Now bowl well with your disc. Morich ball.
Have a nice day.
BTW, we sell more Global's in our shop compare to the OVERPRICE new current model Morich balls.
Have a nice day
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Post by: newguy on August 19, 2008, 09:46:08 AM
Post by: qstick777 on August 19, 2008, 10:04:19 AM
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Great Topic, not sure of the remake or copy comment, I must have missed something during the design stages, Oh that right I've seen the link core before, It was in the alphabet....
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Post by: newguy on August 19, 2008, 10:22:10 AM
Post by: jls on August 19, 2008, 10:22:13 AM
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Great Topic, not sure of the remake or copy comment, I must have missed something during the design stages, Oh that right I've seen the link core before, It was in the alphabet....
Newguy, I am seeing more and more of this. Sales reps from some of the other ball companies are feeling the heat. If little shops like mine are selling 10-15 -20 Globals or more a month, that's 10-15-20 less of their brands. And times that by hundreds and hundreds of shops, and it adds up.
Keep up the great work Phil, Eric, Dale, Sue.
BTW, my dist. is now taking orders on Global balls.
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Edited on 8/22/2008 10:29 AM
Post by: on August 19, 2008, 01:12:16 PM
Post by: stormed1 on August 19, 2008, 03:13:04 PM
Post by: jls on August 19, 2008, 03:37:29 PM
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I agree with Phil's selling policy completely. I get tired of people bringing in balls they bought online for less than we pay for them and we buy hundreds to their one a year. The quality and performance of all the balls he has been a part of in the past all speak for themselves and i would expect nothing less from him now or in the future.
Excellent points sir, however I do see the consumers point of view here also. Most don't know that many times in the past they have bought balls online at or below actual pro shop cost. Now with Ebonite's new policy, some of that has changed. So far today I have drilled 4 outside balls. Sure we would love to have sold them the ball, but we still got paid for the drilling.
I have said in the past that I as a pro shop would have no problem if Global ever decided to sell their balls online. Hopefully if that ever happened, they would follow Ebonite's lead and pricing program. I also was in favor of them selling to dist. as well as directly to pro shops.
Their product is first class, those that buy will benefit from it. And those
that want to only buy balls on a super deal, will never know what their missing.
I always hear two things, real bowlers don't put their name on the ball, and real bowlers only care about how much money they can win with their new ball, not how pretty it looks or how good it smells.
But on this site we see a lot of the "global does not sell online so I won't buy one" crap. I really think that many times it is another companies reps doing this bashing.
Once again, excellent job by the whole staff at Global.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Edited on 8/19/2008 4:12 PM
Post by: jls on August 19, 2008, 04:10:31 PM
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Never pay retail to drill your own balls.There are many balls to fill the 900 global line.One day they(900 global) will wise up and make it possible to get them cheaper.....Ebay
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"I hate losing more than I love winning"
Really, well here are some prices of new top model balls currently selling online.
Morich Ntense..........$152.99
Morich Mojave..........$152.99
Storm Dimension........$134.99
Ebonite NVD............$138.99
Col. Momentum.........$133.99
Brunswick Twisted Fury Solid.... $144.99
And we have clearly showed this person that he can buy a Break for about $145.00
Yet all he does is knock Global, even though their balls are selling for about the same price as many top models online.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Edited on 8/20/2008 12:43 PM
Post by: newguy on August 19, 2008, 05:09:49 PM
Post by: luv2C10falll on August 19, 2008, 08:32:45 PM
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Post by: Lefty_bowler on August 20, 2008, 08:17:30 AM
I'M GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE STANDING UP FOR GLOBAL!!!!!!
Post by: novawagonmaster on August 20, 2008, 08:40:42 AM
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JLS is like having a big zit on the end of your nose. It gets an unfavorable reaction from most observers, and makes you look at it cross-eyed.
Fixed.
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aka: Rico Swervé~
Edited on 8/20/2008 8:41 AM
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 08:59:29 AM
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JLS, I WISH I COULD HAVE YOU AS MY LOCAL PRO SHOP GUY! I HAD TO SPENT TWO MONTHS OF HARRASSING MY PRO SHOP GUY TO GET ME THE GLOBAL LINE BECAUSE AT THAT TIME THEY DID NOT USE DISTRIBUTORS. FROM DAY ONE OF THE PRO SHOP GETTING THE BALLS AND DRILLING THEM HE WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE BALLS!!!!!! ON THE 1ST OF THE MONTH THE PRO SHOP OWNER FINALLY BROKE DOWN AND BOUGHT HIM A PEARL BREAK, HE LOVES THE BALL AND IS NOW HAPPY THAT I BUGGED THE, WELL YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF HIM TO BUY THE BALL.
I'M GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE STANDING UP FOR GLOBAL!!!!!!
Thankyou sir for the kind words. Actually the reason i like Global is their products work. And getting them into the hands of my customers is my goal.
And when they score, it's a win win for all
I am glad to see that you understand what I am talking about. There are so many two bit lowlifes on this site that don't have a clue.
Good luck
"pit bull"
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Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 09:01:28 AM
quote:QuoteJLS is like having a big zit on the end of your nose. It gets an unfavorable reaction from most observers, and makes you look at it cross-eyed.
Fixed.
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
Here is a perfect example of someone who does not have a clue.
All this person knows how to do is surf the net in his dirty underwear while drinking coffee. BTW it's wed. change your underwear day.
Dues are due, first of the month, chop chop loser.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Post by: directdrill on August 20, 2008, 09:11:03 AM
You should add "pit bull" to your signature line
You are correct, Global 900 makes a great product. I have the Break S75 and Break Pearl, and both are excellent pieces. AMF is also making great gear, as I have had good success with the Code and can't wait until my Nkryption Code arrives at the pro shop.
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Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 09:16:04 AM
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JLS,
You should add "pit bull" to your signature line
You are correct, Global 900 makes a great product. I have the Break S75 and Break Pearl, and both are excellent pieces. AMF is also making great gear, as I have had good success with the Code and can't wait until my Nkryption Code arrives at the pro shop.
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Direct, I will only if it is approved by mr Newguy.
You see I follow the rules they set.
Will wait for his answer.
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Post by: pinspeaker on August 20, 2008, 09:41:14 AM
If a distributor's wholesale prices are more expensive than what some websites sell them for, how come pro shops aren't buying from the websites as well? I mean, if some online pro shop had Break Pearls for $130 and a distributor is selling them for $140 to proshops, what's stopping the shop from ordering them online? Don't pro shops shop for prices from different distributors too? Just curious here.
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 09:53:26 AM
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Question:
If a distributor's wholesale prices are more expensive than what some websites sell them for, how come pro shops aren't buying from the websites as well? I mean, if some online pro shop had Break Pearls for $130 and a distributor is selling them for $140 to proshops, what's stopping the shop from ordering them online? Don't pro shops shop for prices from different distributors too? Just curious here.
Sir
Easy answer to a good question.
Actually some do, however if you sell a customer a ball that you bought online and not from a dist. and if said ball should crack, that ball is not warranted, because you did not buy it from the companies dist.
Only product a pro shop buys from the Dist. is under warranty. Or in this case if you buy the ball directly from the ball company.
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Post by: pinspeaker on August 20, 2008, 10:03:35 AM
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Sir
Easy answer to a good question.
Actually some do, however if you sell a customer a ball that you bought online and not from a dist. and if said ball should crack, that ball is not warranted, because you did not buy it from the companies dist.
Only product a pro shop buys from the Dist. is under warranty. Or in this case if you buy the ball directly from the ball company.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Thanks for the response!
Another question:
How many cracked/defective balls do proshops actually send back to a distributor in a year?
Post by: Hoselrockets on August 20, 2008, 10:19:52 AM
quote:
Question:
If a distributor's wholesale prices are more expensive than what some websites sell them for, how come pro shops aren't buying from the websites as well? I mean, if some online pro shop had Break Pearls for $130 and a distributor is selling them for $140 to proshops, what's stopping the shop from ordering them online? Don't pro shops shop for prices from different distributors too? Just curious here.
One good reason is the distributor can be paid in 30 days and when you buy on line you have to pay today. The distributor is a good way for shops to control cash flow.
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THB
Post by: Lefty_bowler on August 20, 2008, 11:09:37 AM
quote:quote:
JLS, I WISH I COULD HAVE YOU AS MY LOCAL PRO SHOP GUY! I HAD TO SPENT TWO MONTHS OF HARRASSING MY PRO SHOP GUY TO GET ME THE GLOBAL LINE BECAUSE AT THAT TIME THEY DID NOT USE DISTRIBUTORS. FROM DAY ONE OF THE PRO SHOP GETTING THE BALLS AND DRILLING THEM HE WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE BALLS!!!!!! ON THE 1ST OF THE MONTH THE PRO SHOP OWNER FINALLY BROKE DOWN AND BOUGHT HIM A PEARL BREAK, HE LOVES THE BALL AND IS NOW HAPPY THAT I BUGGED THE, WELL YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF HIM TO BUY THE BALL.
I'M GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE STANDING UP FOR GLOBAL!!!!!!
Thankyou sir for the kind words. Actually the reason i like Global is their products work. And getting them into the hands of my customers is my goal.
And when they score, it's a win win for all
I am glad to see that you understand what I am talking about. There are so many two bit lowlifes on this site that don't have a clue.
Good luck
"pit bull"
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JLS,
You don't have to tell me about Phil's product. I owned Nu-Line X-Caliber, my only 300, Columbia Cuda/C, 1 of my 800's, and Nu-Line X-Caliber Legend, my other 800 and 3 299's. I might not have the best avgerage out there but my highest avgerage was with something Phil has had somekind of hand in making.
If Phil has a hand in the ball, I can say from my past experiance with his products, I'm willing to spend the money! I'll spend $180 or so to make a $1000 or so. Wouldn't you?
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 11:17:11 AM
quote:quote:quote:
JLS, I WISH I COULD HAVE YOU AS MY LOCAL PRO SHOP GUY! I HAD TO SPENT TWO MONTHS OF HARRASSING MY PRO SHOP GUY TO GET ME THE GLOBAL LINE BECAUSE AT THAT TIME THEY DID NOT USE DISTRIBUTORS. FROM DAY ONE OF THE PRO SHOP GETTING THE BALLS AND DRILLING THEM HE WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE BALLS!!!!!! ON THE 1ST OF THE MONTH THE PRO SHOP OWNER FINALLY BROKE DOWN AND BOUGHT HIM A PEARL BREAK, HE LOVES THE BALL AND IS NOW HAPPY THAT I BUGGED THE, WELL YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF HIM TO BUY THE BALL.
I'M GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE STANDING UP FOR GLOBAL!!!!!!
Thankyou sir for the kind words. Actually the reason i like Global is their products work. And getting them into the hands of my customers is my goal.
And when they score, it's a win win for all
I am glad to see that you understand what I am talking about. There are so many two bit lowlifes on this site that don't have a clue.
Good luck
"pit bull"
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
JLS,
You don't have to tell me about Phil's product. I owned Nu-Line X-Caliber, my only 300, Columbia Cuda/C, 1 of my 800's, and Nu-Line X-Caliber Legend, my other 800 and 3 299's. I might not have the best avgerage out there but my highest avgerage was with something Phil has had somekind of hand in making.
If Phil has a hand in the ball, I can say from my past experiance with his products, I'm willing to spend the money! I'll spend $180 or so to make a $1000 or so. Wouldn't you?
That sir was the point I was trying to make to luv2c10fall. If a bowler is winning money with a ball, paying $150 or $180 does not matter.
But if a bowler is only interested in getting any ball at the lowest possible price, well that's another story.
Still waiting for Newguys answer on the "pit bull" issue.
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Post by: directdrill on August 20, 2008, 11:36:31 AM
Until Phil gives you the approval, why not just go with "bull dog"?
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Post by: Lefty_bowler on August 20, 2008, 11:42:02 AM
If he doesn't we can just make you the unofficall "900 Global Pit Bull".....
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 12:32:17 PM
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Well I hope he ok's the "Pit Bull" you sound like you know your stuff when it comes to their products and the polices when it comes to selling their products.
If he doesn't we can just make you the unofficall "900 Global Pit Bull".....
Thankyou, that would be an honor. "900 Global Pit Bull" Has a nice ring to it.
BTW, my son does have a 5 year old pit bull named Samson.
And a 4 year old daughter named Sammy. Who now has a pit bull puppy named Minnie.
kids
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Edited on 8/20/2008 12:45 PM
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 12:34:19 PM
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JLS,
Until Phil gives you the approval, why not just go with "bull dog"?
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"bull dog" You know, I do have a lot of Family in Georgia!!!
I really don't understand this "pit bull" stuff. I am such a nice person!!!
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Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 12:35:20 PM
quote:quote:
Sir
Easy answer to a good question.
Actually some do, however if you sell a customer a ball that you bought online and not from a dist. and if said ball should crack, that ball is not warranted, because you did not buy it from the companies dist.
Only product a pro shop buys from the Dist. is under warranty. Or in this case if you buy the ball directly from the ball company.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Thanks for the response!
Another question:
How many cracked/defective balls do proshops actually send back to a distributor in a year?
Maybe 10-15
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Post by: Lefty_bowler on August 20, 2008, 12:50:08 PM
quote:quote:
Well I hope he ok's the "Pit Bull" you sound like you know your stuff when it comes to their products and the polices when it comes to selling their products.
If he doesn't we can just make you the unofficall "900 Global Pit Bull".....
Thankyou, that would be an honor. "900 Global Pit Bull" Has a nice ring to it.
BTW, my son does have a 5 year old pit bull named Samson.
And a 4 year old daughter named Sammy. Who now has a pit bull puppy named Minnie.
kids
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Edited on 8/20/2008 12:45 PM
See you already have the mascot waiting...........LOL
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 12:56:06 PM
quote:quote:quote:
Well I hope he ok's the "Pit Bull" you sound like you know your stuff when it comes to their products and the polices when it comes to selling their products.
If he doesn't we can just make you the unofficall "900 Global Pit Bull".....
Thankyou, that would be an honor. "900 Global Pit Bull" Has a nice ring to it.
BTW, my son does have a 5 year old pit bull named Samson.
And a 4 year old daughter named Sammy. Who now has a pit bull puppy named Minnie.
kids
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Edited on 8/20/2008 12:45 PM
See you already have the mascot waiting...........LOL
Ya, but Newguy does not like me, so I don't think it will get approved.
Oh well.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Post by: Lefty_bowler on August 20, 2008, 01:46:34 PM
Why wouldn't Newguy not like you you've been defending his company and standing up for it. He should be thrilled that he has loyal customers like that!
Post by: novawagonmaster on August 20, 2008, 01:52:29 PM
quote:quote:quote:
JLS is like having a big zit on the end of your nose. It gets an unfavorable reaction from most observers, and makes you look at it cross-eyed.
Fixed.
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
Here is a perfect example of someone who does not have a clue.
Please enlighten me as to which "clue" it is that I do not have.
I have purchased the Break, Break Pearl, Creature, Creature Pearl, S75, and Code. In fact, I drilled my second Code this morning.
Am I not worthy because I drill my own equipment? Is it because I do not have a storefront?
I spent two years dicking around with three different ball drillers, and none of them were able to fit me properly. It was at that point I decided to just buy the equipment needed to do it myself. I did not invest in the equipment for the sole purpose of saving money on balls and drilling. That was just a nice side benefit. I did it because I can drill my balls better than the three local pro shops can. I do not claim to be an expert by any stretch of the imagination. This is why I only drill for myself, my family, and one close friend. Also, I am not out to take anyone's business away. I just could not continue to throw ill-fitting bowling balls and expect to do any good with them. I know there are good shops out there, but they are certainly not in my area.
The only point I made in the beginning of this thread was that it would be nice if I did not have to pay retail to by an undrilled bowling ball. That said, I have obviously done it because I have the entire lineup. I have made money with the balls. I understand that concept. Still, it would be nice to catch a deal on an undrilled ball.
So tell me, chihuahua...
Which "clue" don't I have?
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aka: Rico Swervé~
Edited on 8/20/2008 1:53 PM
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 02:24:01 PM
quote:quote:quote:QuoteJLS is like having a big zit on the end of your nose. It gets an unfavorable reaction from most observers, and makes you look at it cross-eyed.
Fixed.
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
Here is a perfect example of someone who does not have a clue.
Please enlighten me as to which "clue" it is that I do not have.
I have purchased the Break, Break Pearl, Creature, Creature Pearl, S75, and Code. In fact, I drilled my second Code this morning.
Am I not worthy because I drill my own equipment? Is it because I do not have a storefront?
I spent two years dicking around with three different ball drillers, and none of them were able to fit me properly. It was at that point I decided to just buy the equipment needed to do it myself. I did not invest in the equipment for the sole purpose of saving money on balls and drilling. That was just a nice side benefit. I did it because I can drill my balls better than the three local pro shops can. I do not claim to be an expert by any stretch of the imagination. This is why I only drill for myself, my family, and one close friend. Also, I am not out to take anyone's business away. I just could not continue to throw ill-fitting bowling balls and expect to do any good with them. I know there are good shops out there, but they are certainly not in my area.
The only point I made in the beginning of this thread was that it would be nice if I did not have to pay retail to by an undrilled bowling ball. That said, I have obviously done it because I have the entire lineup. I have made money with the balls. I understand that concept. Still, it would be nice to catch a deal on an undrilled ball.
So tell me, chihuahua...
Which "clue" don't I have?
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
Edited on 8/20/2008 1:53 PM[/quo
Nova, what did I say to get your crude response. All I did was point out to Luv2 how he could possibly get a Break at a better price. You responded with your kinder garden remarks.
I didn't see you take the time to tell him how he might get the ball at a better price. No your just a potty mouth lowlife who thinks he is a bowler.
your a dime a doz. there are about 59 replies to this thread. And about 3 that were crude. Most replies tried to address the topic on hand.
Now I love your remark about dicking around with ball drillers, and now you do your own. Well guess what, If you screw up your own ball, who you going to complain too. Ya no where on this planet is there a decent ball driller that can fit you, cause your special.
You are like a pimple on someones butt, It's there and thank goodness it can't be seen!!!!!!!
now be gone you loser
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Edited on 8/20/2008 2:48 PM
Post by: 3835 on August 20, 2008, 02:48:16 PM
But here is the problem. This has turned into a personal issue. This is exactly what happened many times in the Lane 1 forum, when someone would step up and state a comment not consistant with what the Lane 1 users thought. This person was rediculed and almost ran out of town for even bringing up a contra point. What that caused is potential customers to stop buying Lane 1 products. Even though as far as I know there is only maybe 1 higher up in Lane 1 on here, people who were rediculed then turned on Lane 1 as they associated the people on this forum doing the rediculing as a Lane 1 rep since they promoted Lane 1 for everything. Ask Nova how that turned out...he had 50+ Lane 1s, almost had all of them, and then simply sold them off after he was tired on the continous senselessness from some of the posters in the Lane 1 forum. Nova got tired of their slams and simply said thats enough. Granted, Lane 1 or any other company may not feel the effect of 1 or 2 less ball sales here and there, but if many people log onto here and got turned off to the product, this can start to have an effect.
What I am trying to say here is JLS, I know exactly where you are coming from defending a product. It is a great product from San Antonio. However, you do not want to get into the name calling and then have potential customers to Global not buy the product due to someone poking and prodding and doing name calling. It could very easily turn a sale away, especially from a smaller company which is not readily available on the internet due to the sales practices Global enforces. Not only does this have a detrimental effect on you as a pro shop operator, then you have all of the execs from Global not too happy as we know Eric and Phil and who knows else posts on here and reads here everyday. If they see your posts are turing away customers, it could come back to haunt you. Take the high road, look past the snide remarks if thrown at you, and just promote the product as you have been and everything will be fine.
-3835-
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 03:05:09 PM
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JLS,
Why wouldn't Newguy not like you you've been defending his company and standing up for it. He should be thrilled that he has loyal customers like that!
Well, that's the way it is I guess. But since I am not selling Newguy, I am selling Break's and Creature's, it really does not matter.
My customer's love the way the ball preforms, most never heard of newguy.
And right now I think their product is as good as anyone's on the market. so I stock them and recommend them to my customer's.
That's all that counts.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 03:14:16 PM
Nova is someone who surfs the net and loves to bash, he seldoms adds to a post.
I think real customers can see this with one eye shut.
I seriously doubt that Global lost any sales, if anything, they probably gained.
Like I said, I am not selling a product called Newguy, I am selling a product he makes. I find it to be a quality product and I feel that I can recommend it freely to my customers.
And so I do.
But I will not take crap from some third grader like Nova.
He is a member of the geek squad that surfs this site only to bash, seldom to add to a topic.
They love it when they bash and the person runs and hides.
"Pit Bulls" do not run and hide from French poodles like Nova.
We chew them up and spit them out.
just in case you wanted to know
ok
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Post by: 3835 on August 20, 2008, 03:18:21 PM
Just be careful. Thats all. Its great that you have such a high pride for their product. Just remember how Brunswick and Lane 1 gets called on the carpet all of the time for the bashing....
Plus, they may not have seen it. They do have other things to do during the day than surf here like us.
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Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 03:30:16 PM
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JLS,
Just be careful. Thats all. Its great that you have such a high pride for their product. Just remember how Brunswick and Lane 1 gets called on the carpet all of the time for the bashing....
Plus, they may not have seen it. They do have other things to do during the day than surf here like us.
-3835-
Oh they saw it, "pit bull"
Once again, their product like some other products I sell are first class quality. That is why I speak highly of their "product"
Now I don't visit Lane one much, new meaning to the word vicious there
As for Brunswick, I really don't sell that much Brunswick, so no need to visit there much, especially since they disc. the Fury, and "I lost millions"
For well over a year now, people have been bashing Global about not selling online. I think in many cases they are sales reps from other companies.
They are seeing more and more little shops stocking and selling Global, at their expense. and they don't like it. I love it!!!!!
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 03:32:32 PM
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JLS is like having a pit bull in Globals front yard....
3835, They see everything.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Post by: newguy on August 20, 2008, 03:39:52 PM
He really is a teddy bear at heart and I repest his courage to stand his ground.
Post by: jls on August 20, 2008, 03:49:06 PM
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I couldn't resist even though I am on vacation this the rest of this week....Pit Bull is reserved for JLS...Maybe with his permission we could name a ball after him
You gotta love this guy, I know I do!!!!!
Direct, you there??? Does this sound like I can use "Pit Bull" in my sig?
Hope so, cause I think it's cool!!!!
Thanks Newguy, and once again to your whole staff >>> It's a pleasure doing business with you!!!!
And speaking of "standing his ground," that is exactly what 900 global is doing.
And I know that pro shops appreciate it!!!!!
I know I do.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Post by: Lefty_bowler on August 20, 2008, 04:26:10 PM
quote:quote:
I couldn't resist even though I am on vacation this the rest of this week....Pit Bull is reserved for JLS...Maybe with his permission we could name a ball after him
You gotta love this guy, I know I do!!!!!
Direct, you there??? Does this sound like I can use "Pit Bull" in my sig?
Hope so, cause I think it's cool!!!!
Thanks Newguy, and once again to your whole staff >>> It's a pleasure doing business with you!!!!
And speaking of "standing his ground," that is exactly what 900 global is doing.
And I know that pro shops appreciate it!!!!!
I know I do.
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
I would say he is giving you a yes to using "Pit Bull" in your sig.
Post by: novawagonmaster on August 21, 2008, 10:22:52 AM
I have purchased the Break, Break Pearl, Creature, Creature Pearl, S75, and Code. In fact, I drilled my second Code this morning.
Am I not worthy because I drill my own equipment? Is it because I do not have a storefront?
I spent two years dicking around with three different ball drillers, and none of them were able to fit me properly. It was at that point I decided to just buy the equipment needed to do it myself. I did not invest in the equipment for the sole purpose of saving money on balls and drilling. That was just a nice side benefit. I did it because I can drill my balls better than the three local pro shops can. I do not claim to be an expert by any stretch of the imagination. This is why I only drill for myself, my family, and one close friend. Also, I am not out to take anyone's business away. I just could not continue to throw ill-fitting bowling balls and expect to do any good with them. I know there are good shops out there, but they are certainly not in my area.
The only point I made in the beginning of this thread was that it would be nice if I did not have to pay retail to by an undrilled bowling ball. That said, I have obviously done it because I have the entire lineup. I have made money with the balls. I understand that concept. Still, it would be nice to catch a deal on an undrilled ball.
So tell me, chihuahua...
Which "clue" don't I have?
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
Edited on 8/20/2008 1:53 PM[/quo
Nova, what did I say to get your crude response. All I did was point out to Luv2 how he could possibly get a Break at a better price. You responded with your kinder garden remarks.
I didn't see you take the time to tell him how he might get the ball at a better price. No your just a potty mouth lowlife who thinks he is a bowler.
your a dime a doz. there are about 59 replies to this thread. And about 3 that were crude. Most replies tried to address the topic on hand.
Now I love your remark about dicking around with ball drillers, and now you do your own. Well guess what, If you screw up your own ball, who you going to complain too. Ya no where on this planet is there a decent ball driller that can fit you, cause your special.
You are like a pimple on someones butt, It's there and thank goodness it can't be seen!!!!!!!
now be gone you loser
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Edited on 8/20/2008 2:48 PM[/quote]
I should have known better than to expect a replay that made any sense.
You say wannabe bowlers like me are a dime-a-dozen. You are correct. I wish I was a better bowler, but I honestly do not have the time to devote to bowling that would be required to get me to the next level. My life extends beyond bowling and Ballreviews. Judging by your frequent posts, you cannot say the same of yourself.
As for me knocking ball drillers, again you have demonstrated your inability to read and comprehend basic English. I said I have tried three local drillers. None of which were able to fit my hand. I am anything but "special", as you put it. My hand is about as normal as they come, and has a good deal of flexibility as well. I clearly stated that there are good drillers out there...just not in my area. I also clearly stated that I do not claim to be an expert. I am merely able to do a better job at drilling my own equipment than the three local ball drillers.
Lastly, you say "be gone you loser". If it were only so easy to be rid of everyone who disagres with you, I believe you would find yourself a very lonely old man. A very small part of me is sad for you.
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
Post by: jls on August 21, 2008, 10:41:44 AM
quote:quote:
JLS is like having a big zit on the end of your nose. It gets an unfavorable reaction from most observers, and makes you look at it cross-eyed.
Fixed.
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
Edited on 8/20/2008 8:41 AM
Nova, this was your first post, way before I posted anything about you.
YOU decided to throw out this 2 bit insult, instead of addressing the topic on hand. This is what you do best, bash people, seldom post anything worth while.
After I responded to your two bit post, you came back on with your no good ball drillers crap. You made it sound like no one knows what they are doing.
People like you that say things like "I can't find any good ball drillers," are a dime a dozen. You think your better then everyome.. Maybe if you practiced a little you might get better and then stop blaming the ball drillers.
At the time there were about 59 replies to this thread, but you were the only one I saw that just throw out a cheap insult, while hiding behind your computor. You never address the topic, just throw out a cheap insult, because that is all you can do, cause you know nothing.
You are what is commonly know as a computor tough guy, >>> big mouth loser hiding behind your screen!!!!!
You make me sick,
Your a loser today, yesterday and everyday in the future.
And now once exposed for what you are, you come on with the poor pitty me crap.
You fired the first shot, and when someone fires back, you get upset, like it's your right to come on here and insult people.
Some may back down from scum like, BUT NOT ME BOY
just in case you wanted to know
ok
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jls "Pit Bull" Vote for good, not evil.
Edited on 8/21/2008 3:11 PM
Post by: novawagonmaster on August 22, 2008, 06:23:08 AM
Here's your shovel. That hole you are standing in is not quite deep enough.
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
Post by: jls on August 22, 2008, 08:52:43 AM
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I really wish I had more time for you. *laughs*
Here's your shovel. That hole you are standing in is not quite deep enough.
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Jon (in Ohio)
aka: Rico Swervé~
To quote the famous words of a west coast valley doll
"whatever"
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jls "Pit Bull" Vote for good, not evil.
Post by: directdrill on August 22, 2008, 08:57:52 AM
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You gotta love this guy, I know I do!!!!!
Direct, you there??? Does this sound like I can use "Pit Bull" in my sig?
Hope so, cause I think it's cool!!!!
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Yep, I'm here JLS. Looks like you are good to go with the "pit bull" in your signature line. Not sure if you could use "Official pit bull of 900 Global", but maybe you could use "900 Global's pit bull". That sounds pretty good.
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Hook 'em Horns!
Tag Team Coaching success story.
Post by: jls on August 22, 2008, 10:03:25 AM
quote:quote:
You gotta love this guy, I know I do!!!!!
Direct, you there??? Does this sound like I can use "Pit Bull" in my sig?
Hope so, cause I think it's cool!!!!
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jls, Vote for good, not evil
Yep, I'm here JLS. Looks like you are good to go with the "pit bull" in your signature line. Not sure if you could use "Official pit bull of 900 Global", but maybe you could use "900 Global's pit bull". That sounds pretty good.
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Hook 'em Horns!
Tag Team Coaching success story.
Direct, I don't know about that. It seems that Charlest is a little upset.
So I may not be getting the "Pit Bull" tag after all.
Unless he gets his special flavor in the next new Storm release.
That would be "sour grapes"
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jls "Pit Bull" Vote for good, not evil.
Post by: mmcfarland300 on August 22, 2008, 10:11:20 AM