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banjoec

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900G say it aint so
« on: September 03, 2012, 07:47:35 AM »
Is it true that 900 Global will no longer be approved for use in PBA events?
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2012, 12:17:10 PM »
Everyone would be free agents! Oh no!

Sad when even bowling ball companies don't want to spend the money on the PBA tour. No wonder they can't get sponsors.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2012, 01:57:49 PM »
From my understanding, the product registration was suppose to be temporary.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2012, 07:58:06 PM »
I don't think it will have any impact on the PBA per se, but it might hurt what limited visibility you get from the PBA. Had it been a major brand I think it would of hit home more should Ebonite International or Storm make this stand.

In the end bowling balls are sold by what is the predominant manufacturer in a particular bowling alley and the pro shop owner.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2012, 09:54:29 PM »
As a bowler I understand the decision. As a part time regional bowler that 100% of my arsenal is 900 and AMF, I am toast. Since I am over 50 I now will have to give SASBA a stronger look. I will not have to make the final decision to drop my PBA membership for a couple months, but tax reasons may be the only reason to keep it for now. Unfortunately I asked this question before converting my arsenal to all 900 equipment and was assured that they would keep the grassroots even if the dropped off tour. I also know that I seldom see anyone in the Southwest throwing their stuff but myself, so what does that tell you about justifying the expense. I also purchased two new balls just a couple weeks ago and wish I was informed then of the decision I could have saved almost $200. Luckily Dale let me know before I ordered another ball today. I will be bowling a PBA50 event this weekend and then make a decision to go to Fort Smith or not as my final event for a long while. Personally I wish all the ball companies would stand up and say no at least to the regional fees, I understand the costs associated with the Tour but regional s seem to be paid for by the centers and entry fees not a lot other than that. Have to say a bit upset at this decision, but not sure who I am upset at; 900, PBA or myself for putting all my eggs in one basket.  I do have a sponsor deal for my tournament promotions company for items I give away to participants, but not for myself. These two items are separate in my mind, but I wouldn't promote anything I don't believe in and use.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2012, 10:11:05 PM »
I wish all manufacturers would stand up to the registration fees.  This was only suppose to be temporary from what I recall but turned permanent.   There are people who constantly complain about exposure for bowling.  So when things go south (bad choice of words )lets create a way to have manufacturers' get screwed.  Why doesn't Brunswick, Ebonite, or Storm buy the PBA? Maybe all 3 join some kind of pact? There obviously is a problem to generate revenue.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2012, 09:50:50 AM »
I think it sure would be interesting if all ball companies made a stand and said screw you. Something would have to give.
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2012, 09:55:10 AM »
I never have understood the benefit manufacturers receive from the PBA, when they commit and send $125k to the PBA for full registration, other than they are supplying life support for a broken business platform. Bowling in general is declining, membership, centers closing every week, the sport needs to be revived, then worry about the PBA if it is still functional.
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2012, 10:13:30 AM »
I understand and kind of surprised that more companies haven't did the same.  The fee's are outrageous and there isn't any true value these days.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2012, 01:34:02 PM »
I totally support this idea from 900 Global.  It is sad that professional bowling has come to charging such an insane amount of money for bowlers using their products.  I hope this inspires the other companies to stand up and maybe something can be done about this.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2012, 06:03:00 PM »
I've been using 3G shoes since they were called Dynoroos. When the shoe name changed to 3G, Dynoroos were no longer registered. So I called up 900G and Eric Thomas went above and beyond to get me a new pair of 3G's at a reasonable price so I could continue to bowl regional tournaments. Now with this decision, 3G will no longer be registered. I don't blame 900G, I blame the PBA for charging such outrageous fees to support a business model that has been unprofitable, ridiculous, and out of whack for many years now. For me personally, this is the last straw in my relationship with the PBA. I refuse to be forced to wear a pair of inferior bowling shoes by a different manufacturer who chooses to pay the fee. I will no longer support the PBA until they come to their senses, do away with the registration fees, and allow all USBC approved equipment. Thank you 900G for taking a stand and doing what you feel is right. Hopefully the other manufacturers will take a stand and do the same.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2012, 08:59:33 PM »
If the players keep bowling for the limited prize funds and no voice in what is happening, would it not be better for them to drop their card and bowl amateur events with larger purses with way more events? It seems that the WS is the best option for them to make any cash and even that is limited. Can the PBA down size staff to save cash? Couldn't they rent an office @ USBC or BPAA? The same people keep running this group and nothing ever changes.
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2012, 09:29:28 PM »
I've spent the better part of two years building my arsenal from 900 global
but today i find out that they are no longer on the pba approved list.
i don't have a problem with this because if it's usbc approved you should be able to
use it.i was thinking of bowling  in a few pba regionals in the southwest region but there is no way i would rebuild my arsenal for the pba. i say stick to your guns 900 global you still have my support. went out last week and bought the look and pardon the pun looking forward to more success with 900!

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2012, 10:33:06 PM »
Darn it! You mean i have to buy new shoes and balls. Just getting used to my bullwhip and am about to buy another next week. Oh well, it doesnt affect my THS bag so im good. Kudos for someone willing to stand up to the PBA who's been pissing away money for years and im hoping that one of the bigger companies stands up and tells the PBA "NO, we are not going to pay your fees so that you can gamble our money on bad ideas that you spit ball"
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2012, 11:36:20 PM »
Here is what I find very frustrating.  Nowhere on the PBA member home page after logging in does it reference 'beginning Sept. 1 900 Global and AMF are no longer registered.  You will have a 30 day grace period'  The only thing you can identify that they are not registered is by the resource page for approved equipment.  Plus they took the offers off.   I also find it interesting that there are only 7 sponsors.  With USBC being one of them.  Are our USBC dues supporting any part of the PBA and if so how much?

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2012, 09:36:27 AM »
Maybe there needs to be a complete restructure in regards to bowling in general. Maybe the PBA needs to go away and while I am not fond of how the USBC operates, I think it would be interesting if everybody pros and league bowlers all bowled under one association. If ANY bowler wanted to compete in a tournament then go ahead and enter. This way anything approved by the USBC can be used and the PBA would not be able to strong arm the bowlers Everyone pays an entry fee kind of like the world series of poker does. That should make the prize amounts better and it might even make the sport interesting and exciting again. I am sure there are lots of reasons this cant be done and I am probably way off base but I just finished drinking a pot of coffee and felt like venting!
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