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banjoec

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900G say it aint so
« on: September 03, 2012, 07:47:35 AM »
Is it true that 900 Global will no longer be approved for use in PBA events?
« Last Edit: September 03, 2012, 07:49:49 AM by banjoec »

 

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #46 on: September 09, 2012, 05:19:43 PM »
Yes, bowling balls are bought due to the PBA all the time, they are called youth bowlers. They might not know any better, but I am willing to wager that their ball selection, at least among competitive youth bowlers, is largely determined by their favorite professional bowler.

I understand why they are doing this, but I don't see how this doesn't hurt them in the end without concerted effort by the ball manufacturers themsevles on this issue.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2012, 07:54:50 PM »
So now what will the PBA do to make up the revenue lost due to another ball company running away from the extortion bullies? Jack up the fees from the remaining ball companies? Somebody has got to pay or the top of the pyramid wont get rich. What will the PBA do???
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2012, 08:37:39 PM »
Well, there is the newcomer Lord Field, which is registered for this year. 
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2012, 08:51:16 PM »
Oh, thank the Lord......Field. I was getting worried for the top of the pyramid. I am sure the PBA big shots are wringing their greedy little hands!
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2012, 09:41:10 PM »
Yep, Lord Field eliminated the loss of fees from 900 Global.  In fact, it's revenue neutral for the PBA (if the PBA brass even knows what that means). 
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2012, 08:53:01 AM »
Yes, bowling balls are bought due to the PBA all the time, they are called youth bowlers. They might not know any better, but I am willing to wager that their ball selection, at least among competitive youth bowlers, is largely determined by their favorite professional bowler.

I understand why they are doing this, but I don't see how this doesn't hurt them in the end without concerted effort by the ball manufacturers themsevles on this issue.

Are you serious?  Youth bowlers influenced by professional bowling...Please?

The logic behind the comment could have been validated like 15-20 years ago when these stars of bowling where on ABC and everybody with a TV and rabbit ears could tune in.  I remember in the mid 80's, although I was just a kid, when moms and dads everywhere where league bowlers and they'd watch the ABC telecast as families.  Bowling was HUGE back then and you knew all the bowlers.

But really...with todays economy! Even the past 5 years, you want to sell a bowling ball, lower the overhead and bring prices down. There isn't a parent in their right mind will buy their youth bowler a $250 bowling ball just because they saw somebody on TV bowl with.

Put it on the shelf, make it look pretty and save that same customer $50-$60 dollars.  Now your selling bowling balls.

Since we are going down this path, even if it was PBA bowlers driving up sales because kids saw them using so and so's product.  Most of these kids lack adequate coaching to take full advantage of the potential that todays equipment offers.

Lower the prices and get some certified coaches to spend some time on the lanes Saturday mornings.  Have these ball companies hand out a few jersey for the coaches to wear and give them a couple balls to throw with the kids.  Now your getting product reped right if front of their eyes.  It's still a financial risk, this way more people have the chance to take advantage of what's available.

One other thought... Have these companies work out a grant program with youth associations.  Apply for equipment.  Between the 2nds and Blems and low end equipment that could be given away.  Spend your marketing dollars by putting so products in the hands of beginners for free.  That's going to say more than some guy (or girl) you catch a glimpse of while surfing through the channels waiting for the next NFL game to start.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2012, 12:39:56 PM »
It's not revenue neutral. 900 Global was paying for All Tour Competition for 900 Balls, Grassroots for AMF Balls, and Limited Footwear for 3G Shoes. Lord Field is only paying for Grassroots. Which would cancel out or neutralize only the AMF part of 900's deal. Huge loss here for the PBA, couple hundred thousand to be exact. As a PBA member/competitor and pro shop owner I generally only support those brands that support the PBA because it is how I make a living. I apparently won't be using my 3G's after this weekend which totally sucks. In my opinion the best shoes on the market. However kudos to Eric Thomas and the rest of the company on this decision.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2012, 06:01:31 PM »
Well it is official I am now an amateur again.  Just got my letter in the mail from the PBA accepting my cancellation of membership. 

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2012, 07:42:34 AM »
how does it feel to be a member of the nobody faction of bowling again? Welcome home !!
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2012, 11:40:01 AM »
Well when DV8 and Motiv registered and Lord Field to a lesser extent, the PBA gained a lot.  Enough I would say to overcome the loss of Global 900/AMF/3G.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #56 on: September 11, 2012, 12:43:02 PM »
Sure they fill some of the gap, but what difference does it make?  DV8 is still just a fancy name for Made in Mexico.  Motiv satisfies only the smallest market.  And Lord Field who/...looks like old stuff with new names to me.

Biggest looser is the PBA and not in terms of $$$.  900 Global/AMF has become a force to be reckoned with.  Given they are relatively new on the scene compared to EI and SBP...most loyals wont watch because they wont see their equipment on TV.  Less viewers, lower ratings less revenue...bye bye PBA

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #57 on: September 11, 2012, 02:17:33 PM »
Thanks Tekneek.  It is bittersweet since as stated before it getting my PBA card has been a childhood dream.  But thank you for welcoming me back.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2012, 02:21:24 PM »
sad to see, more sad to have to say it in your case,  but we of the ranks of "The oh so ordinary house hacks" welcomes you home !!
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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2012, 02:26:11 PM »
Consider it getting out before the boat goes under. It's already doing a nosedive Titanic style.

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Re: 900G say it aint so
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2012, 06:35:35 PM »
Motiv has been PBA registered for a while. DV8 is owned by Brunswick. Lord Field is the new kid on the block and isn't paying the full fee. With AMF/900 Global/3G leaving they're losing extra revenue that hasn't been made up by another company paying the extortion fee. Everybody has seen the decline of the PBA for years and it's only a matter of time/short time before it doesn't exist! It almost as good as the USBC raising the fees for the Nationals the year they go back to Reno, a place nobody wants to go!!!
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