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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: Good Times Good Times on October 21, 2019, 12:47:51 PM
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I took the plunge and ordered one today even though I tend to stick with Storm/Roto and have for a while.
My Friday night league this year is at a different house, older wood and a pattern that sort of blows up in the front after around game 1. I have an Idol Pearl at 4000 and it's useable for a game, but then it transitions radically fast. My Hectic died as the mileage added up and I have an older MoJave in the bag for this situation.......but I definitely need to add some diversity to the more mild end of my bag.
I've heard good things about the After Dark Pearl. I like the high RG and lower diff numbers with a mild coverstock on it (as it seems like this is the condition this ball is targeted for).
Let's get this $$
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Attaboy. Climb aboard!
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You won’t regret it....
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Is there any appreciable difference between the two After Dark pearls?
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Is there any appreciable difference between the two After Dark pearls?
Nope.
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Is there any appreciable difference between the two After Dark pearls?
Nope.
Thanks, Doom. I'm looking to get one this weekend and just wanted to be sure.
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I took the plunge and ordered one today even though I tend to stick with Storm/Roto and have for a while.
My Friday night league this year is at a different house, older wood and a pattern that sort of blows up in the front after around game 1. I have an Idol Pearl at 4000 and it's useable for a game, but then it transitions radically fast. My Hectic died as the mileage added up and I have an older MoJave in the bag for this situation.......but I definitely need to add some diversity to the more mild end of my bag.
I've heard good things about the After Dark Pearl. I like the high RG and lower diff numbers with a mild coverstock on it (as it seems like this is the condition this ball is targeted for).
Let's get this $$
Please let us know how the ADP compares to the Hectic.
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Let me get some games on it and I'll report back. I'd like to throw it for 4-6 sessions in this environment (and others if the opportunity arises) before making any statements.
Someone send a friendly PM me or bump this post if I fail to....
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More I've been looking at our line, the more I really want to take a pearl and go 5*65 and a Hybrid 2.5*50 to really complement each other on a shorter pattern. I have always been an advocate of shorter pins to control response downlane, so this may be able to keep the lane in front of me without having to use urethane.
Our low end is great.
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Our low end is great.
+1. 400 series especially. 600 (especially when had Ops but still good) and 700 are other best series imo so mid range darn solid as well.
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Our low end is great.
+1. 400 series especially. 600 (especially when had Ops but still good) and 700 are other best series imo so mid range darn solid as well.
Oh, don't I know it! I used to say Give me a bag full of Badgers and Break cores, and I'll be set!
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697 Friday night and threw the ADP all night. What a much-needed look for this place.
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697 Friday night and threw the ADP all night. What a much-needed look for this place.
S30 ftw.
So the house shot at the center in town is tough in that I have to go left to right and can't go straighter outside. Pulled out my X yesterday (which is a very slow response ball, drilled 5*65 ) and when I thought I had it straight enough thru the heads but not into the puddle, the ball would check at my foot. It's nice when I need a control ball on something with oil in the heads, but left to right on the big puddle isn't it's wheelhouse. S30 would at least allow me to get some response off the friction.
Good for you, GTx2!
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Let me get some games on it and I'll report back. I'd like to throw it for 4-6 sessions in this environment (and others if the opportunity arises) before making any statements.
Someone send a friendly PM me or bump this post if I fail to....
Got enough to compare/contrast with the hectic yet?
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Let me get some games on it and I'll report back. I'd like to throw it for 4-6 sessions in this environment (and others if the opportunity arises) before making any statements.
Someone send a friendly PM me or bump this post if I fail to....
Got enough to compare/contrast with the hectic yet?
Not entirely yet, but I have thrown it for about 6 games on older high friction/low volume wood as well as 2 games on Brunswick HPL's during the last game on high street....needing to shape it more in that situation.
It's looking more like my MoJave when it was newer as opposed to the Hectic, with a touch more tip on the back. I think the Hectic was "more" overall.
Very clean through the fronts and really blends the mid-lane well when they're starting to cook. I do want to throw the ball with more open angles to see how it reacts and to see it's versatility. On the older wood I'm more up between 1st and 2nd arrow just letting it come to.......staying up the back of it.
I enjoy throwing it. I think the versatility of it is what will make this a good tournament ball.
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I'll try to get someone to snag some vids of me throwing it in league...
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I keep telling people, S30 is the bomb. My Link used to be stupid good. Tall lopey core, with something super clean on it. Got thru the fronts like plastic, but could create some angle on the correct condition.
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I switched to global at the start of the year from storm and honestly think they are making the best league stuff right now. I don’t know how it works on sport shots cause I rarely bowl on them, but on house it’s unbelievable. If u like that ball, which u will, buy something that says badger on it somewhere....#blackball
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I might see what that Ordnance solid action is all about at some point....
Doom, is that something that will be in the product line for a while? That’s something I may look more at for the Ohio State tournament or something like Nationals/summer sport league. To compliment the Phaze II...
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Talked me into punching up my ADP for my dry house league. My Tag Cannon was too strong and it cracked so spot opened up (Hydra replacement coming woot Motiv customer service but ADP more what I need).
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I might see what that Ordnance solid action is all about at some point....
Doom, is that something that will be in the product line for a while? That’s something I may look more at for the Ohio State tournament or something like Nationals/summer sport league. To compliment the Phaze II...
Bro, I never know what they're gonna pull at what time. Since it's very benchmark, it'll probably be discoed in June lol (IM JUST KIDDING)
Ordnance solid is a Creature (or Titan if you're old school) with S70 solid on it. Probably be a bit smoother than the Phase II.
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Talked me into punching up my ADP for my dry house league. My Tag Cannon was too strong and it cracked so spot opened up (Hydra replacement coming woot Motiv customer service but ADP more what I need).
Welcome to the fold, brother Donuts! (Get a Honey Badger Urethane)
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Talked me into punching up my ADP for my dry house league. My Tag Cannon was too strong and it cracked so spot opened up (Hydra replacement coming woot Motiv customer service but ADP more what I need).
Welcome to the fold, brother Donuts! (Get a Honey Badger Urethane)
Actually have had a used Honey Badger for over a year now which I love (need plug balance hole though and get re-drilled fingertip). Have a Teal HB and Black Ops squirreled away also. Pick my spots in general but like old C300 and 900 stuff. Have too much urethane already and shot is too spotty upfront for urethane imo and won't carry for me regardless but sure will pick up another 900 ball eventually.
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I switched to global at the start of the year from storm and honestly think they are making the best league stuff right now. I don’t know how it works on sport shots cause I rarely bowl on them, but on house it’s unbelievable. If u like that ball, which u will, buy something that says badger on it somewhere....#blackball
I have been sucked back into the Storm/RG balls this past year and I'm now getting rid of them all except for the Hustles and IQ Emeralds I have. Throwing 2 handed once again, the Storm/RG stuff can get too flippy off the spot. I find the Global stuff to be smoother overall, but still angular enough. This is what I have right now:
Eon Infinite
Space Time Continuum
Eon
Money Badger Tour
Money Badger
White Hot Badger
After Dark Pearl
HB Urethane
Planning to add the 2 HB Extremes (finally get the full core in 14lbs) and the Badger Infused. Thinking of a Boost as well.
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I switched to global at the start of the year from storm and honestly think they are making the best league stuff right now. I don’t know how it works on sport shots cause I rarely bowl on them, but on house it’s unbelievable. If u like that ball, which u will, buy something that says badger on it somewhere....#blackball
I have been sucked back into the Storm/RG balls this past year and I'm now getting rid of them all except for the Hustles and IQ Emeralds I have. Throwing 2 handed once again, the Storm/RG stuff can get too flippy off the spot. I find the Global stuff to be smoother overall, but still angular enough. This is what I have right now:
Eon Infinite
Space Time Continuum
Eon
Money Badger Tour
Money Badger
White Hot Badger
After Dark Pearl
HB Urethane
Planning to add the 2 HB Extremes (finally get the full core in 14lbs) and the Badger Infused. Thinking of a Boost as well.
Boost is one of the most overlooked balls in the line. Entry level as far as price? Yeah. But those balls are SNEAKY.
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Just got green money badger for $104 off of buddies. I’m starting to develop a problem
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Just got green money badger for $104 off of buddies. I’m starting to develop a problem
I currently have 12+ balls on order. YOU have a problem? :)
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Dang no ADP for me for awhile. Took ball to drillers and we discovered a 1/4" deep at least divot in the brand new ball courtesy of bowlingball.com or Fedex (never took ball out of shipping box until got to driller). Going to warranty it but still PITA. Needed a game one ball tonight for league so Hustle Ink replacement (original cracked) I had got the drilling nod. Oh well someday. Think I might see if I can get the hybrid instead as the replacement.
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Anyone try surface on one or is it best kept polished?
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Anyone try surface on one or is it best kept polished?
If you need it to read earlier, feel free to go as low as 2000 to get the reaction you want
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I'll give a couple of quick impressions. This is an old wood, high friction environment, yet still a THS......but when the heads go it can become tougher. High scoring, but pair to pair quite notable differences, especially depending on who one is on the pair with.
ADP - This is not a "piece" (s/o northface) I'm going to shape from inside. Much better look being 2nd arrow and out, firm and with a good roll playing direct but still going a little left-to-right (think 9 at arrows to about 6 at the spot, that type of line). That's this balls' wheelhouse, FOR ME. I can get it down lane in the friction and it comes off the spot hard, but again....I have to stay away from the headpin and just let it come to.
Boost Pearl - This is my go to ball when I get inside 2nd arrow and need something with some diff to turn the corner. Low mileage on this thing but it's definitely a great ball that will be in my bag a while. I think this will be a killer burn ball for something like the Journal/Nationals.
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I'll give a couple of quick impressions. This is an old wood, high friction environment, yet still a THS......but when the heads go it can become tougher. High scoring, but pair to pair quite notable differences, especially depending on who one is on the pair with.
ADP - This is not a "piece" (s/o northface) I'm going to shape from inside. Much better look being 2nd arrow and out, firm and with a good roll playing direct but still going a little left-to-right (think 9 at arrows to about 6 at the spot, that type of line). That's this balls' wheelhouse, FOR ME. I can get it down lane in the friction and it comes off the spot hard, but again....I have to stay away from the headpin and just let it come to.
Boost Pearl - This is my go to ball when I get inside 2nd arrow and need something with some diff to turn the corner. Low mileage on this thing but it's definitely a great ball that will be in my bag a while. I think this will be a killer burn ball for something like the Journal/Nationals.
Totally. ADP isn't a ball to go very left to right. It's a smooth rolling core with a weak pearl cover. The pearl will read the friction a bit harder than a solid, but that core has always worked better for me keeping it in front of me.
Now you're 100% right about the Boost. Move 4 and 2 and open the lane up after the ADP gets a bit soft.
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I'll give a couple of quick impressions. This is an old wood, high friction environment, yet still a THS......but when the heads go it can become tougher. High scoring, but pair to pair quite notable differences, especially depending on who one is on the pair with.
ADP - This is not a "piece" (s/o northface) I'm going to shape from inside. Much better look being 2nd arrow and out, firm and with a good roll playing direct but still going a little left-to-right (think 9 at arrows to about 6 at the spot, that type of line). That's this balls' wheelhouse, FOR ME. I can get it down lane in the friction and it comes off the spot hard, but again....I have to stay away from the headpin and just let it come to.
Boost Pearl - This is my go to ball when I get inside 2nd arrow and need something with some diff to turn the corner. Low mileage on this thing but it's definitely a great ball that will be in my bag a while. I think this will be a killer burn ball for something like the Journal/Nationals.
Totally. ADP isn't a ball to go very left to right. It's a smooth rolling core with a weak pearl cover. The pearl will read the friction a bit harder than a solid, but that core has always worked better for me keeping it in front of me.
Now you're 100% right about the Boost. Move 4 and 2 and open the lane up after the ADP gets a bit soft.
Absolutely. That’s precisely what I did last Friday night. Around game 2 I started to plaque the 10 on a few shots and I didn’t really want to get more left than where I was, so around frame 4 I went to the bag for the Boost, made that 4 and 2 move and I just picked up there. As the heads went and I continually moved left the ball maintained its tip all night. I believe I started with the Boost around 12 at the arrows and was approaching 20 as the night ended. Good to know this ball is versatile enough to play different zones on the lane. It’s a bit more forgiving off the hand than I would have initially expected as well....
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I'll give a couple of quick impressions. This is an old wood, high friction environment, yet still a THS......but when the heads go it can become tougher. High scoring, but pair to pair quite notable differences, especially depending on who one is on the pair with.
ADP - This is not a "piece" (s/o northface) I'm going to shape from inside. Much better look being 2nd arrow and out, firm and with a good roll playing direct but still going a little left-to-right (think 9 at arrows to about 6 at the spot, that type of line). That's this balls' wheelhouse, FOR ME. I can get it down lane in the friction and it comes off the spot hard, but again....I have to stay away from the headpin and just let it come to.
Boost Pearl - This is my go to ball when I get inside 2nd arrow and need something with some diff to turn the corner. Low mileage on this thing but it's definitely a great ball that will be in my bag a while. I think this will be a killer burn ball for something like the Journal/Nationals.
Totally. ADP isn't a ball to go very left to right. It's a smooth rolling core with a weak pearl cover. The pearl will read the friction a bit harder than a solid, but that core has always worked better for me keeping it in front of me.
Now you're 100% right about the Boost. Move 4 and 2 and open the lane up after the ADP gets a bit soft.
Absolutely. That’s precisely what I did last Friday night. Around game 2 I started to plaque the 10 on a few shots and I didn’t really want to get more left than where I was, so around frame 4 I went to the bag for the Boost, made that 4 and 2 move and I just picked up there. As the heads went and I continually moved left the ball maintained its tip all night. I believe I started with the Boost around 12 at the arrows and was approaching 20 as the night ended. Good to know this ball is versatile enough to play different zones on the lane. It’s a bit more forgiving off the hand than I would have initially expected as well....
I keep telling people that the Boost line is one of the most underrated lines ever.
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Liking mine (polished) a lot. I can actually use the boards outside 5 they don't think are worth oiling and strike instead of trying to avoid them because the other balls will go through the face or Brooklyn.
Is this good for when there's a normal shot? probably not. But it sure was fun the other day. ;D
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Liking mine (polished) a lot. I can actually use the boards outside 5 they don't think are worth oiling and strike instead of trying to avoid them because the other balls will go through the face or Brooklyn.
Is this good for when there's a normal shot? probably not. But it sure was fun the other day. ;D
What does "normal shot" mean?
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Liking mine (polished) a lot. I can actually use the boards outside 5 they don't think are worth oiling and strike instead of trying to avoid them because the other balls will go through the face or Brooklyn.
Is this good for when there's a normal shot? probably not. But it sure was fun the other day. ;D
What does "normal shot" mean?
One of Kegel's house shots where the pattern is shorter than 50 feet and the volume is higher than 17.5 ml and there's actually oil to the 1 board and it's not mostly dumped 3rd arrow to 3rd arrow :P
Obviously have to try it elsewhere and find out though
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I love the boost line got a pink, black solid and red charcoal pearl. I really wish they would bring back a solid version. So good
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Anyone try surface on one or is it best kept polished?
3000 worked well for me.
I love mine, except i leave 10 pins like crazy if i miss left. but thats my fault, not the ball
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I have not tried the ADP with any surface as, to me, it feels it would take away from the intended application of this ball.
I would however be interested in another boost that I could hit with a used 2000 pad (to separate it from the shiny one) to get 2 useful looks. Boost pearl is a more versatile overall...
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Boost Black/Blue Hybrid @3000 (TruCut pad).
Boost Cardinal Red Pearl @4000 (Abralon or Siaair pad)
ADP @ OOB 1500 polished. Have not found a reason (yet) to change the surface. If it ain't broke don't try to fix it!
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Finally punched up one I had squirreled away and was fairly impressed in my first practice session. Haven't been throwing the ball particularly well lately but was better today and had a fairly decent set. Ball is super weak which is exactly what I was looking for. I have it drilled weaker than my Slingshot but even so I think its cover responds to friction slower than PK17. Great control piece for going straighter.
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If I get one do I go for the better looking silver/blue pearl or the hybrid...or wait to see what's next?
I regret missing out on the solid...
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Only have experience with the purple pearl which is still available I believe. If planning on using it as a burn ball would probably go with one of the pearls but difference is not large from what I hear between any of them.
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Finally punched up one I had squirreled away and was fairly impressed in my first practice session. Haven't been throwing the ball particularly well lately but was better today and had a fairly decent set. Ball is super weak which is exactly what I was looking for. I have it drilled weaker than my Slingshot but even so I think its cover responds to friction slower than PK17. Great control piece for going straighter.
Interesting take. I have mine stronger than both Counter Attacks and the Twist.
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Yeah will have a better idea tonight after league as plan on using AD and Slingshot. Its possible house put out more oil than usual too in the one time practiced with it. AD drilled very weak also.
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I should also say that, even with polish, it is definitely not snappy on the back end. I do agree with it being a more control piece. I just have it more ball overall than the other 3 that I mentioned. Not much difference in overall hook between the After Dark Pearl and the Badger balls I have (excluding the Extremes). Just shape.
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Been using my Honey Badger OG and ADP at a fresh 2000 pad. Late in sets I get warmed up and can throw these two through the breakpoint. If I slow down they can get a little harder to keep in the pocket. At this surface they don't pick up to early and this allows me to keep it in front of me.
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More I use this ball more I like it. Kind of dream come true for those of us who like playing straighter on spotty light oil. Just letting mine lane shine and happy so far with the results. Turns just enough at the end to carry. For the record it is stronger than my Slingshot but not by a lot.