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Geigs

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Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« on: February 12, 2019, 07:13:28 PM »
Have a faithful black ops drilled weakish, 5 1/2x 5x3. I keep it at 1000 and use it for my heavy oil, volume ball. Had good success with it at nationals, bjís in Syracuse. Well it has a ton of games now. Was thinking of putting it on my spinner and resurfacing it to oob finish and using it for mediums,  and house shot. Want to get a new, fresh black ops (great deals online for black ops around $100). Was thinking of going a little stronger with the drilling, say 4x4x2 with same 1000 surface for heavy oil just like current one. Do you think it will be too strong, I definitely donít want it to puke out. What are your experiences with the ops, break core with strong drillingís for oil? Here are my specs! Pap 5 3/8 over up 7/8. Tilt 16 degrees. Rev rate 320. Ball speed 14 mph. These specs are from the powerhouse bowler Iíd test. Appreciate your global 900 expert opinion.

 

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2019, 10:05:15 AM »
So, if I want my Black Ops to be like my Code Black, I should use the same layout?

Yep, but please break the surface, and then repolish it to your liking. (Good practice for any ball, really)
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2019, 10:24:46 AM »
So, if I want my Black Ops to be like my Code Black, I should use the same layout?

Yep, but please break the surface, and then repolish it to your liking. (Good practice for any ball, really)

Thanks for that (this) doom. That clears up an earlier question on here that I asked some time ago about surface.

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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2019, 10:40:29 AM »
So, if I want my Black Ops to be like my Code Black, I should use the same layout?

Yep, but please break the surface, and then repolish it to your liking. (Good practice for any ball, really)

Thanks for that (this) doom. That clears up an earlier question on here that I asked some time ago about surface.

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2019, 08:39:45 PM »
So I need to revise my previous statement. I talked to some fellow staffers, watched some videos, and came to a realization.

The Tactical isn't a bad ball. It's how people drilling them makes it look. Fast response drills on them look like crud, because the thing sees the friction so hard, it just goes forward. But the ones that are slower transition look like the bomb.

So don't drill your Ops with small Val angles. :)
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2019, 12:23:14 AM »
So I need to revise my previous statement. I talked to some fellow staffers, watched some videos, and came to a realization.

The Tactical isn't a bad ball. It's how people drilling them makes it look. Fast response drills on them look like crud, because the thing sees the friction so hard, it just goes forward. But the ones that are slower transition look like the bomb.

So don't drill your Ops with small Val angles. :)

Any suggested layout? Iíve redrilled mine twice now and still donít like the way it looks.

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2019, 09:25:23 AM »
So I need to revise my previous statement. I talked to some fellow staffers, watched some videos, and came to a realization.

The Tactical isn't a bad ball. It's how people drilling them makes it look. Fast response drills on them look like crud, because the thing sees the friction so hard, it just goes forward. But the ones that are slower transition look like the bomb.

So don't drill your Ops with small Val angles. :)

Any suggested layout? Iíve redrilled mine twice now and still donít like the way it looks.

What were the 2 layouts?
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2019, 09:18:29 PM »
I have drilled 2 Tacticals.  One pin over bridge just like my Code Black, was trying to copy.  Other one was pin in palm with really deep thumb hole trying to copy my old favorite the Break Pearl (Rico).  Never liked either one.  Sold the pin in palm one.  Pin over bridge one hit with Reacta Skuff and like it, but, way stronger than I wanted it to be.

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2019, 11:36:59 AM »
Doom, you were spot on.  Drilled Black Ops like Code Black, broke cover with 4,000 pad and had a very similar look to Code Black.

May have to order another for stash.

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2019, 12:31:10 PM »
I have drilled 2 Tacticals.  One pin over bridge just like my Code Black, was trying to copy.  Other one was pin in palm with really deep thumb hole trying to copy my old favorite the Break Pearl (Rico).  Never liked either one.  Sold the pin in palm one.  Pin over bridge one hit with Reacta Skuff and like it, but, way stronger than I wanted it to be.

Tactical does NOT roll like the old Break Pearl. Personally, I'd like to see S71 pearl on it, see if it doesn't get so pukey downlane.
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2019, 06:02:38 AM »
I have drilled 2 Tacticals.  One pin over bridge just like my Code Black, was trying to copy.  Other one was pin in palm with really deep thumb hole trying to copy my old favorite the Break Pearl (Rico).  Never liked either one.  Sold the pin in palm one.  Pin over bridge one hit with Reacta Skuff and like it, but, way stronger than I wanted it to be.

Tactical does NOT roll like the old Break Pearl. Personally, I'd like to see S71 pearl on it, see if it doesn't get so pukey downlane.

Another option if you want a pearl with a break core- Radicalís Conspiracy Pearl. Itís not a 900 Global, but that core has an uncanny resemblance to the break core. Drilled a Conspiracy Solid at 50*5*65 and the Conspiracy Pearl at 60*4.5*40 and itís been a great 1-2 punch!

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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2019, 08:46:18 AM »
Is the Black Ops earlier than an Inception Pearl? And possibly later than a Halo?

Perhaps...this is a good...GAP FILLER!
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2019, 10:20:41 AM »
I have drilled 2 Tacticals.  One pin over bridge just like my Code Black, was trying to copy.  Other one was pin in palm with really deep thumb hole trying to copy my old favorite the Break Pearl (Rico).  Never liked either one.  Sold the pin in palm one.  Pin over bridge one hit with Reacta Skuff and like it, but, way stronger than I wanted it to be.

Tactical does NOT roll like the old Break Pearl. Personally, I'd like to see S71 pearl on it, see if it doesn't get so pukey downlane.

Another option if you want a pearl with a break core- Radicalís Conspiracy Pearl. Itís not a 900 Global, but that core has an uncanny resemblance to the break core. Drilled a Conspiracy Solid at 50*5*65 and the Conspiracy Pearl at 60*4.5*40 and itís been a great 1-2 punch!

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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2019, 11:15:06 AM »
Is the Black Ops earlier than an Inception Pearl? And possibly later than a Halo?

Perhaps...this is a good...GAP FILLER!

Earlier? Oob? Maybe. Too close to tell. S74 pearl is more responsive downlane than S70 solid but S70 is the R2S of the Global line.
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2019, 02:08:52 PM »
Alright, that's my summer toy then :-D. Imma get one and make it 4k and be a happy camper.
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Re: Attn doom; Black ops advice.
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2019, 03:13:26 PM »
The black ops rolls best for me with that factory polish knocked off. Iíve used it at 1000 for heavy oil. Ball is so versatile. I think you will love it at 4000. Much smoother than oob.