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Equipment Boards => 900 Global => Topic started by: lsf_21 on April 21, 2009, 02:46:17 PM
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so when my link isnt hooking and my break pearl is hooking to much what should i drill?
my ideas
drill a break pearl weaker than my current one
drill a maniac weaker and polish it up
thast whats in the pro shop currently and both are on sale which would be better?
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Creature, the S40 one...either one would fit depends on which motion downlane you prefer...
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i was hoping i could drill something that was in the shop.. as both are on sale increadibly cheap at the moment.. but that is something im thinking about
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If the maniac is on sale def. go for it. Id go with a 5x4 Pin up and hit it with a 2000 or 4000 + a lil polish and it should fit nicely between the two
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thats what i was thinking.. drilling really weak with some polish
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My Maniac is 5 x 3 1/2 pin up high @3000 plus Snake oil and it hooks more than both my Break Pearls
Edited on 4/22/2009 3:19 AM
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The Ball that would be perfect is The Creature without doubt.
A weak Maniac is still pretty strong. Why not just take the ball that fits naturally in that spot (Creature) and layout your favorite pattern on it?
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I agree with srlunitac, a creature or cr pearl would be the correct move.. the maniac is a very strong ball surprisingly.. see if your shop would trade it in for a creature if their distributor has one??
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See if the AMF Code is on sale. It'll also fit the bill.
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Code will not fit inbetween the break pearl and the link, it is a fairly strong ball. It will be just as strong or stronger than the break pearl.
I say creature as well. Those balls were made to fit inbetween the Breaks and the Link
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I still think a mild drilling plus polish on the maniac will get what hes looking for.
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I don't have a Link, but when my Break Pearl is too much I usually end up stepping down to an Orbit Extreme or Night Hawk Pearl.
The Creature never did much for me. I don't have a Maniac (yet), but the Link is rated at 30 and Break Pearl at 70. The Maniac is rated at 50, so that is right in between the other two.
The only thing you have to consider is 2 are asymmetrical pearls and the Maniac is a symmetrical solid. The Maniac also has more surface, so you can always adjust up if needed.
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Second the Creature. Sure you could probably drill a Maniac weaker, but why when there is already a ball designed just for that purpose. Don't let the S40 rating fool you into thinking the ball is too weak. I can bring out the Creature on a fresh house shot and play with it all night. If the shot breaks down more, then you have your Link to go to. That would be a good 3 ball arsenal. Good luck!
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If you don't want to order anything go with the Break pearl and drill it weaker than your current one. You can also surface it up to 4000ab with some polish.
If you decide to order something try a Villain, Awakening, Creature, or Creature pearl. These should easily fit in between those balls.
The Code can work but you will need a weaker layout and surface adjustments. It's close to the Break pearl with an earlier roll.
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What you are wanting will all depend on drilling and surface. I have my break pearl drilled 5 1/2 x 45 degrees pin up with surface to 1000 grit and it hooks more than anything I've thrown. Also have a Creature drilled 5/4 and it's more than what I expected. My Maniac is drilled to be smooth and I took the surface to 2000 to cut down on the hook. Both the Maniac and Creature drilled as I have with the surfaces I have are stronger than the Link but weaker than the Break Pearl the way mine is layed out.
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ok.. maybe he has a creature sitting in the shop not really sure... we will see.. if not i might take the option of drilling the maniac really weak and polish the hell out of it
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Code will not fit inbetween the break pearl and the link, it is a fairly strong ball. It will be just as strong or stronger than the break pearl.
The Code is rated F65 and the Break Pearl is rated a F70. The Code is also solid and doesn't reserve as much energy as the Break Pearl, so The Code doesn't jump nearly as much as the BP once it hits the dry.
I have a mild control drilling on my Code and it fits very nicely under the Break Pearl. I've found my Creature Pearl to be less effective than the Code under most conditions, except fairly dry.
As the original poster said his F30 Link wasn't hooking (note he didn't say "isn't hooking enough"), it's my feeling that the he may have trouble getting the F40 Creatures solidly into the pocket also.
It's easier and more effective to make a stronger ball weak with drilling and coverstock adjustments than it is to make a weaker ball strong doing the same.
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ok.. maybe he has a creature sitting in the shop not really sure... we will see.. if not i might take the option of drilling the maniac really weak and polish the hell out of it
You won't want to polish the hell out of a Maniac. Just take it up to 2000 or 4000. It has a very controllable and mild reaction at 2000 on conditions when my Break Pearl is struggling to stay out of the nose. Admittedly I don't have a lot of hand, but it's the same hand that's throwing the Break Pearl that's getting jumpy.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlvR2lfgzbg&feature=channel
thats my break pearl.. thats much deeper than i like to play but the angle that ball creates on the shot i have to move in.. my link is MUCH more direct but dont have a video of it
by the way the video is me taking a lot of hand out of the ball.. to see how much i put in the ball most of the time watch the rayzr video.. im somewhere between them now
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I have both the creature pearl, and the break Pearl, both drilled rico, and both oob finish, and for me the break pearl is five boards stronger than the creature pearl.
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Couldn't tame the beast that was the Maniac. Messed with surface....2000,4000...tried polish/no polish at higher grits. Ball for me was just always way stronger than s50, much closer to s70. Eventually sold it, could not fit it in....and believe me I tried.
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You won't want to polish the hell out of a Maniac. Just take it up to 2000 or 4000. It has a very controllable and mild reaction at 2000 on conditions when my Break Pearl is struggling to stay out of the nose. Admittedly I don't have a lot of hand, but it's the same hand that's throwing the Break Pearl that's getting jumpy.
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sooooooooooooo i decided to drill the maniac and i have yet to polish it up
this ball is a BEAST!!!!!!!!!!! its finally started to tame a bit with a little lane shine on it but it was more than i expected
not exactly sure how far the Pin to PAP is but its over 5 inches and close to the track well over my middle finger at box finish i believe the ball even with the pin high got into a roll when it hit the lane.. i finally got my hand up the back of it and the ball rolled AMAZINGLY and fit really close to just below my break pearl.. i played the same part of the lane jsut the break pearl went a little bit further and was more snappy so hoping when i can get to a pro shop that can polish it i will do so and report back but so far i think the balls going to be perfect
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leftyinsnellville,
As far as I was led to believe and as I look at the Code, it's a solid/pearl combination, not a "plain" solid. Many 900G and AMF balls are that way these days: Bounty, S75 Break, BreakPoint, N-Code, as well as the Code.
lsf_21 & golfnutFL,
The Maniac, as reviewed by both BTM and BJI, and as I see in the hands of a teammate, has the unusual characteristic of being an early rolling ball whether in its dull stick state or when polished. When polished, it gets more length but remains an arcing ball with a lot of control and rolly ball reaction. Seems to be one of those ultimate control balls.
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charlest,
Respectfully, I would have to place the solid Creature more in the category of "ultimate control balls" than the Maniac. IMHO the solid Creature is the perfect benchmark (i.e. control) ball that someone could cart around. I found the Maniac, in various states of wax and/or sand, to be much more condition specific.
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lsf_21 & golfnutFL,
The Maniac, as reviewed by both BTM and BJI, and as I see in the hands of a teammate, has the unusual characteristic of being an early rolling ball whether in its dull stick state or when polished. When polished, it gets more length but remains an arcing ball with a lot of control and rolly ball reaction. Seems to be one of those ultimate control balls.
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lsf_21 & golfnutFL,
The Maniac, as reviewed by both BTM and BJI, and as I see in the hands of a teammate, has the unusual characteristic of being an early rolling ball whether in its dull stick state or when polished. When polished, it gets more length but remains an arcing ball with a lot of control and rolly ball reaction. Seems to be one of those ultimate control balls.
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early rolling is an understatement for this ball... im still wanting to polish and i think the ball will be awesome
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