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michael.willis9

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best ball for the burn
« on: December 03, 2018, 01:55:59 PM »
Ok ok, so I was looking at getting the xmas boost, and Doom gave me some good advice.... then i started looking and saw the bubble gum boost and it looked pretty cool.  but then somebody said they've heard mixed reviews about both.

then somebody mentioned the after dark pearl is great.

Now i'm not sure which way to go?  anyone had more than one of these? or one that could give an opinion?

 

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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2018, 02:06:36 PM »
Not as familiar with Global stuff as msny if you guys, but the after dark solid is unique among dry lane balls for me.  Part is that I match up well with the tall cores,  but that surface really matches up to give me a great back end reaction without a lot if side ways movement.  Heavy roll while staying behind the ball at release.

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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2018, 03:53:11 PM »
I have an After Dark Solid as well. My only regret is I should have laid it out pin down with a weaker VAL angle/pin buffer. I've never had a lot of success with super high pin positions but this one is essentially on the center line above the bridge with a 1" pin buffer. I believe 65x5"x25 for dual angle. 

Some have compared it to the Storm Hustle Ink which I also thought was a great ball, had one before switching 16 to 15lbs. Hard to compare reaction differences as that one was pin down.

I'm eager to give the After Dark Pearl a go around. 
 
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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2018, 04:12:14 PM »
I have an After Dark Solid as well. My only regret is I should have laid it out pin down with a weaker VAL angle/pin buffer. I've never had a lot of success with super high pin positions but this one is essentially on the center line above the bridge with a 1" pin buffer. I believe 65x5"x25 for dual angle. 

Some have compared it to the Storm Hustle Ink which I also thought was a great ball, had one before switching 16 to 15lbs. Hard to compare reaction differences as that one was pin down.

I'm eager to give the After Dark Pearl a go around. 
 

With those core numbers 5*25 isn't a good idea. You need to either go stronger flaring pin placement and small angle, or lower flaring pin placement and bigger angle.
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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2018, 12:49:10 PM »
I echo a lot of the sentiments here. The Boost was stronger than advertised. My Bubblegum boost can handle a bit more oil, and hooks a lot more, than even my X2. I was surprised. It created overlap with pieces I liked more, so I wound up getting rid of my Bubble Gum boost.

I recently got an After Dark Solid with a pin-in-palm layout...that thing gets down lane very easily. I'll be getting the ADP at some point, and going with a pretty aggressive layout. These are two great pieces that no other companies really have - very mild resin with a smooth core. I'd love to see this core on a stronger cover, to be honest.
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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2018, 01:14:18 PM »
I echo a lot of the sentiments here. The Boost was stronger than advertised. My Bubblegum boost can handle a bit more oil, and hooks a lot more, than even my X2. I was surprised. It created overlap with pieces I liked more, so I wound up getting rid of my Bubble Gum boost.

I recently got an After Dark Solid with a pin-in-palm layout...that thing gets down lane very easily. I'll be getting the ADP at some point, and going with a pretty aggressive layout. These are two great pieces that no other companies really have - very mild resin with a smooth core. I'd love to see this core on a stronger cover, to be honest.

If you look at the AD core, it's basically a modified Sure thing core. Much higher RG, bit lower diff.
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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2018, 02:53:55 PM »
Not to hijack the thread, we're talking about equipment for toasty lanes... Does anyone have any experience rolling a Desert Ops (barely asymmetrical) against the After Dark Pearl. The numbers look very similar but coverstocks...
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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2018, 12:58:29 AM »
Iím about to order my after dark pearl tomorrow. I also gotta talk to my PSO about a pitch change. My thumb swelling is getting out of hand

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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2018, 09:16:52 AM »
Not to hijack the thread, we're talking about equipment for toasty lanes... Does anyone have any experience rolling a Desert Ops (barely asymmetrical) against the After Dark Pearl. The numbers look very similar but coverstocks...

S70 pearl is going to respond harder to friction than S30 anything. The reason the desert ops was made is because they tried that core with the S70 solid, and it was too touchy. The pearl at least makes it to where you get a little bounce off of the dry.
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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2018, 10:51:11 AM »
I used both of my After Darks drilled the same on our THS which has a bunch of friction starting in the midlane. Both of these balls were great all night. What I was wanting was something to not push super long and change directions quickly or something to roll midlane and go left. These two easily accomplished this need. Yes I had some recovery room due to the friction downlane however, that is not my goal when throwing these two on that shot. Where these shine is allowing me to play more direct and closer to the dry with a smoother response on the backend. I can easily play a much tighter line closer to the headpin without any overreaction on the backend. These balls will show you that you do not need to open your angles to carry and score. I'm pretty impressed for a entry level reactive. These are definitely something our line has been lacking in years past.
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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2018, 10:55:15 AM »
Not to hijack the thread, we're talking about equipment for toasty lanes... Does anyone have any experience rolling a Desert Ops (barely asymmetrical) against the After Dark Pearl. The numbers look very similar but coverstocks...

S70 pearl is going to respond harder to friction than S30 anything. The reason the desert ops was made is because they tried that core with the S70 solid, and it was too touchy. The pearl at least makes it to where you get a little bounce off of the dry.

Doom you hit the nail on the head. I agree the Desert Ops is too touchy and speed sensitive on dry lanes. While it can be a ball for this situation for some bowlers, I don't think it will work for everyone as there are better options in our line. It was definitely way more ball than I think most anticipated it would be. IMO I feel the Break Down worked better for this situation when compared to a Desert Ops.
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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2018, 01:44:59 PM »
Just ordered my AD pearl through my PSO. Iíll have it in hands Tuesday

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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2018, 02:02:31 PM »
Iamone78:  you described exactly what I wanted,  and got from my AD solid.  Most unique, and useful dry lane ball I have owned

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Re: best ball for the burn
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2018, 09:42:22 PM »
I'm thinking about grabbing both of these whenever possible. Anyone drill one with a 4 inch pin or in that realm yet?
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