Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on September 18, 2008, 04:05:51 PM
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=25&BallID=880&ReviewID=29908
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Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on September 19, 2008, 10:19:45 AM
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Hey guys just wanted to say that I got enough games on it to give a review. The link is posted below, read it and PM if you have any other questions. Also please no troll pm's, only people who have real questions or want to know anything more indepth as to lines and angles I have played.
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=25&BallID=880&ReviewID=29908
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Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
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Well thank you for the post, you do realize that this ball has been out for about 7-8 months now. The ball has been a decent seller and the feedback from bowlers has been very positive. Can we expect some feedback from you on the Break S-75 in a few months? I could not help but notice, that if this was a Track new release, your feedback would come much sooner. Sometimes way before the ball is released.
And when you say this ball has been overlooked, by who, certainly not here!!!
This along with the Break, the S75 and the Creature pearl, have done very well for us. Nothing overlooked here sir.
BTW, finally sold a Uprising. Of course I have only had one call for the ball so far!!!! Sorry no feed back avavilable.
Just in case you wanted to know
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jls, when I say this ball has been overlooked I am going off the general info I seen over the summer at trade shows, and the responce Eric thomas got fromt he ones I was at when he asked who has heard of us and our releases. The release of this ball is not in time with my review. I didnt get this ball till late in the season last year, and with us getting another shop I didnt have time to drill it up and then when I did I wasnt able to get enough games on it for a review. That is why it took so long. The last time I was able to get a review done withing a month of the release was the Temper from track. The others were delayed also. This one was delayed mostly because of when I was able to get it drilled. I do have a Creature pearl I just picked up. I havea few of these balls myself, and some others on the way. When I say they were overlooked I was also talking about the company in regards to the bigger companys. Everyday in the shop I have to tell people who 900 Global are.
Just remember the BR.com people account for a really small amount of the market, and then your market is alot different then mine. You will see a review from me on the first Break (once I get some oil to use it, lol), the s75, the creature pearl, the solid creature when I get it, and the Link. The link will be next because I should be getting one in a few days. I put a order in to Eric for it. Also remember that 900 on BR is bigger here because one of the guys who owns and works there posts on here, in the form of Phil C.
JLS I will pm you with some stuff also man. No hate from me or to you man.
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Post by: MC on September 19, 2008, 01:16:08 PM
Good review Scoot.
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Post by: fluff33 on September 19, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
Post by: fluff33 on September 19, 2008, 02:17:25 PM
Post by: MC on September 19, 2008, 04:10:38 PM
I hope that best for Global. Their customer service is outstanding.
MC
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The review looks pretty much spot on to me. I have had several people that are very knowledgeable about bowling ask me what ball it is and who makes it. I agree that is it an overlooked ball.
Good review Scoot.
MC
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I think you people at Track And Vision are wishing this ball is overlooked!!!
But the Pit Bull sees all!!!!!
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Post by: Sjf on September 19, 2008, 07:40:04 PM
Post by: nextbowler on September 19, 2008, 10:45:39 PM
K&K Bowling is the largest seller of their product in the U.S.
Post by: gebba300 on September 19, 2008, 11:25:01 PM
Post by: NJStroker on September 20, 2008, 06:24:47 AM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Scraps Z on September 20, 2008, 09:34:56 AM
I own both 900G and Track...have one of each additional on the way. No bias here...just feel its good to see as much feedback as possible ALL products.
Remember, sometimes flattery is the greatest compliment. After reading Mark's review and considering his reputation for Track, it makes the Break Pearl look even that much better.
Post by: jls on September 20, 2008, 10:03:00 AM
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I sure don't get it...it shouldn't matter how long it takes to post a review. If Mark's pro shop is more Track biased then yes, it probably will take longer for a review from another ball company. IMO so what...at least he reviewed the BP and posted his thoughts.
I own both 900G and Track...have one of each additional on the way. No bias here...just feel its good to see as much feedback as possible ALL products.
Remember, sometimes flattery is the greatest compliment. After reading Mark's review and considering his reputation for Track, it makes the Break Pearl look even that much better.
Good point, however sales are usually the best for a ball, when first released. In todays market, a ball that is 7-9 months old is starting to get past it's prime. Even though his review was good does not change the fact that it came rather late, from a "selling standpoint"
And like I said, it does seem that when they do a post on Track, it's never late and usually done way before the ball has been released. >> from a "selling standpoint" that makes more sense.
are we clear
"flat 10"
you're killing me here
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Post by: Scraps Z on September 20, 2008, 10:28:36 AM
And while you're right about review timing, Mark (I don't know him personally) appears to be a long time Track roller. So yes, if I was in his shoes, I would probably review a Track ball sooner than another manufacturers. Again...SO WHAT. He made a good review of a product for which you and others firmly believe is superior, that's wonderful and only promotes sales. If you want to criticize him b/c he's more loyal to a given brand or made some reviews you may not agree with that's your call. But why post that here? You only offer a negative vibe and that doesn't help sales at all.
Not everyone is going to jump on the 900G bandwagon right away. It took me an entire year. I wanted to see if the company was for real and how more experienced bowlers reviewed their products. I also had to find a retailer and accept the fact that I now pay full retail for a product vs internet pricing. With that said, I am glad I've bought 3 of their balls and will probably purchase more. Am I brand loyal...not like I was with Columbia for 10 years prior to their sellout. But I am getting there.
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Post by: directdrill on September 20, 2008, 10:49:19 AM
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Post by: jls on September 20, 2008, 11:43:02 AM
However with most new ball release's, sales are going to be at their strongest earlier in the release then later.
And he did post a decent review on the ball, but most of us already know that.
And I don't feel this ball is or was 'overlooked" Some pro shops may not have stocked the ball for whatever reasons. But those who did stock the ball, I would say, were glad they did.
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Post by: Scraps Z on September 20, 2008, 11:56:02 AM
It's all good...as the brand progresses they will sell more product. I look forward to the future of 900G.
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Post by: jls on September 20, 2008, 12:41:05 PM
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JLS...you make good points. I will have to say many pro shops in my area did not stock 900G products. And if they do, they need to get updated on the 900G website as retailers so folks know their options. I recently found local shops that carry 900G but are not listed on the website. They lost business b/c I would've purchased locally had I known.
It's all good...as the brand progresses they will sell more product. I look forward to the future of 900G.
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Exactly, But we have had the pleasure of dealing with these people for many many years. So for us, it was a no brainier. And we have not been disappointed. And better yet, our customer feedback on this line is excellent.
And that is what really counts the most.
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Post by: NJStroker on September 20, 2008, 02:32:43 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on September 20, 2008, 03:56:01 PM
Now yes I did review the Rising and temper quick, however if you look at my Kinetic and Kinetic Energy reviews, they took alot longer to do. I was able to do them over the summer when I was home and got the time to do so. I had both of them for months before I wrote my review. Also if my review time was so companys specific, you would think my KE review would have happen real quick because I had it drilled at the staff camp they had and then the set after they sent us them back, I shot 796. Yet I didnt do the review until some 5-7 months later.
Long post short, I review a ball after I get enough games on it. Not who makes it.
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Post by: Kid Jete on September 20, 2008, 04:44:44 PM
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The thing with this is, I dont understand why it matters when I made this review. In first post of the topic I stated "I got enough games on it to give a review." I am not the kind of person who drills a ball, throws it 3-9 games and gives it a full review. Like I said I got this ball late last year, and didnt have time to drill it. Then when I did, I didnt have time to bowl with it because of us moving into another shop in our area. That is why my post came so long to happen. In about a week I will have another review of the creature pearl. I have only had it for about a week, and well I have been able to bowl with it. My reviews come after I have a good firm grip on what I see from the ball. This take a good amount of games, and isnt something you can get from one-three sets out with a ball.
Now yes I did review the Rising and temper quick, however if you look at my Kinetic and Kinetic Energy reviews, they took alot longer to do. I was able to do them over the summer when I was home and got the time to do so. I had both of them for months before I wrote my review. Also if my review time was so companys specific, you would think my KE review would have happen real quick because I had it drilled at the staff camp they had and then the set after they sent us them back, I shot 796. Yet I didnt do the review until some 5-7 months later.
Long post short, I review a ball after I get enough games on it. Not who makes it.
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No need to expain yourself man. jls is a turd and always will be. If you don't agree with what he believe that makes you wrong and him right, period. He just looks for the bait and when you give it to him, good luck shutting him up.
Post by: NJStroker on September 20, 2008, 09:19:14 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Sjf on September 20, 2008, 09:45:46 PM
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JLS my signature should've never came up anyway ur last post made no sense at all
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Maybe it's because your sign line appears to be knocking Brunswick. At least to an outsider it may appaear that way. Maybe to you it's a joke. But to someone reading it for the first time, it looks like you don't like Brunswick.
Now as for the Break Pearl. Great ball!!!
Post by: NJStroker on September 20, 2008, 09:48:31 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Sjf on September 20, 2008, 09:57:10 PM
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yes but SLF, this isn't the brunswick forum its the 900 forum
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
I know that, but you know that there is a lot of bashing that goes on here.
Guys from one site come over and knock another site. Maybe it's the area we are in, but around here better bowlers have been using 900globals shoes for years. and they seem to know about their line of balls. Now I can understand a new bowler not being familiar with global. Heck, many are not familiar with Storm or Track either. Like I said, around here 900global is not overlooked.
There are many who like to come on and take cheap shots at Global because they don't sell online.
Post by: NJStroker on September 20, 2008, 10:00:39 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Post by: Sjf on September 20, 2008, 10:10:01 PM
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i havent taken a cheap shot at 900 ONCE, i think its a good idea actually, i use 3g shoes but no one else does around here. i'm changing my sig now anyway cuz of this stuff
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their BRUNSWICK ball.
Hey don't change your sign because of me, but may I suggest one of those smily faces. And I didn't mean you took cheap shots, What I meant was that on many sites, people from other sites come on and knock other companies.
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Post by: NJStroker on September 20, 2008, 10:14:34 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.
Post by: Sjf on September 20, 2008, 10:26:11 PM
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yes SLF i understand about that, now back to JLS, hes making references to stuff that has NO RELATION to the subject at all.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.
nistroker, I don't know, maybe he took it as if they were knocking global with that overlooked comment. To me it was a little dig at global because they don't sell online. And more and more pro shops are finding out how easy it is to deal with global. And that means some shops may be selling a little more global now then they did a year ago. And that may mean a less sales for some other brands. I believe jls said he only has had one call for the new Uprising so far this season.
Post by: Sjf on September 20, 2008, 10:28:36 PM
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Hey guys just wanted to say that I got enough games on it to give a review. The link is posted below, read it and PM if you have any other questions. Also please no troll pm's, only people who have real questions or want to know anything more indepth as to lines and angles I have played.
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=25&BallID=880&ReviewID=29908
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Well thank you for the post, you do realize that this ball has been out for about 7-8 months now. The ball has been a decent seller and the feedback from bowlers has been very positive. Can we expect some feedback from you on the Break S-75 in a few months? I could not help but notice, that if this was a Track new release, your feedback would come much sooner. Sometimes way before the ball is released.
And when you say this ball has been overlooked, by who, certainly not here!!!
This along with the Break, the S75 and the Creature pearl, have done very well for us. Nothing overlooked here sir.
BTW, finally sold a Uprising. Of course I have only had one call for the ball so far!!!! Sorry no feed back avavilable.
Just in case you wanted to know
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nistroker, sounds like he's doing ok with global. But it looks like the Uprising is not doing well.
Maybe it's the Uprising that is being overlooked.
Post by: NJStroker on September 20, 2008, 10:31:28 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.
Post by: Sjf on September 20, 2008, 10:41:04 PM
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and that has relevance where in this thread? idk how the rising came up. and how does 900 being overlooked a dig? so i guess saying that the street rod was overlooked but its really good is a dig? not at all. it doesn't have to do with not being on-line, its just saying that its not well-known and because its not the BIG 4, its not bought as much, which could be a VERY good thing in the end.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.
Well he said the Break Pearl was being overlooked, so how does that apply to this thread. It was suppposed to be a review on how he felt the ball performed on the lanes. According to you, this thread should only be about the performance of the ball. Therefore his comment about the ball being overlooked, should not have been made. And all jls did was point out that around here the ball is performing well and is not overlooked. The overlooked comment came from the poster of this thread. he brought it up, so why don't you get all over his butt about staying on topic. And you sign line clearly says flat 10 with Brunswick, so again it appears that you were also knocking a ball company. You see, some of us don't know about your private jokes.
It does not look funny to me, it looks like you don't like Brunswick and are a Track lover. Read your sign, it's all there. Got to go, cause I starting to feel that talking to you is like talking to the wall.
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Post by: NJStroker on September 20, 2008, 10:42:38 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on September 20, 2008, 11:19:36 PM
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and that has relevance where in this thread? idk how the rising came up. and how does 900 being overlooked a dig? so i guess saying that the street rod was overlooked but its really good is a dig? not at all. it doesn't have to do with not being on-line, its just saying that its not well-known and because its not the BIG 4, its not bought as much, which could be a VERY good thing in the end.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.
Well he said the Break Pearl was being overlooked, so how does that apply to this thread. It was suppposed to be a review on how he felt the ball performed on the lanes. According to you, this thread should only be about the performance of the ball. Therefore his comment about the ball being overlooked, should not have been made. And all jls did was point out that around here the ball is performing well and is not overlooked. The overlooked comment came from the poster of this thread. he brought it up, so why don't you get all over his butt about staying on topic. And you sign line clearly says flat 10 with Brunswick, so again it appears that you were also knocking a ball company. You see, some of us don't know about your private jokes.
It does not look funny to me, it looks like you don't like Brunswick and are a Track lover. Read your sign, it's all there. Got to go, cause I starting to feel that talking to you is like talking to the wall.
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The overlooked statement was in my review, and I said it was a bad thing because this ball is awsome. With me saying it was overlooked was from the trade shows I attended. I was at both the Ace Mitchell (ohio) trade show, and the Classic corp. (Indianna) shows. When Eric Thomas there sales rep asks who here has heard of us and the rooms hands go up and then he says ok whos selling us, and the hands drop from a room of over 100 up to less then double digits that says that people are being lead to overlook the equipment. I watched the same thing happen at classic because I didnt sit in on the storm demo, or the on the ball bowling demo, I watched Eric with his 900 demo. I am in personal contact with Eric. I love there stuff, and other then one other Break pearl in our area last year, they all came from us.
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Post by: MC on September 22, 2008, 11:14:07 AM
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With so many better bowlers using 900global's shoes, I find it hard to believe that someone in the PBA has never heard of some of their balls. Around here I see plenty of them in use.
He does not use their shoes either. But I agree I was very surprised that he had never seen one.
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Post by: jls on September 22, 2008, 11:38:56 AM
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With so many better bowlers using 900global's shoes, I find it hard to believe that someone in the PBA has never heard of some of their balls. Around here I see plenty of them in use.
He does not use their shoes either. But I agree I was very surprised that he had never seen one.
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MC, for a new company that is a little over a year old, I think they are doing just fine. Sure they may not be in every pro shop. There are a few brands I don't stock anymore. And they have been around for years. And every day more and more of the other ball companies are finding out that more and more shops are starting to wake up and drink the coffee and start selling a ball that they can make a small profit on, as opposed to balls footballed online. And they don't like that!!!!!
Now I can understand Mr & Mrs every other Sat. nite mixed league, not knowing about Global. But a PBA player!!!
Overlooked, I don't think so. I have 5 Global balls on my rack. Ask me, go ahead and ask me how many "not so called overlooked" Track balls I have on the rack. That would be ONE, the Tantrum. Why, ask me why, Cause global balls are selling, and in my area, Track is not. That is why.
imo, there are two types of pro shops. Those that sell a quality product like Global, and those that choose not to.
But they are not overlooked, by people that know what they are doing!!!
Have a good day MC, and thanks for posting.
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Post by: MC on September 22, 2008, 12:35:34 PM
Not trying to beat a dead horse, but
Again, I think that they are a great company and will do/are doing just fine. The arguement of overlooked or not is completely based of where you live and bowl. Here in Central Illinois, a lot of the bowlers have no idea who Global is. I think that they will, but for now they get overlooked because no body around here carries them. Some will order them but you have to ask. FYI Track does not sell here either. Only a couple more of them than Global. Here it is basically Storm, Hammer, Brunswick, then LaneMasters and Visionary. Maybe the difference in your view and mine is pro shop view vs. a bowlers view?
No arguement intended, I think we are saying the same thing: Global is good and tbe Break Pearl is a good if not great ball, and the review was pretty accurate (even though a bit tardy
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Post by: jls on September 22, 2008, 02:10:23 PM
Like I said, two types of pro shops, those selling Global and those who choose not too.
are we clear
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Post by: jls on September 22, 2008, 02:17:17 PM
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jls,
Not trying to beat a dead horse, but
Maybe the difference in your view and mine is pro shop view vs. a bowlers view?
No arguement intended, I think we are saying the same thing: Global is good and tbe Break Pearl is a good if not great ball, and the review was pretty accurate (even though a bit tardy
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Agreed, His review was fine. I personally thought it was a little late, but he did explain that. However I don't agree with the overlooked comment. As for timing on reviews. If they come from "Joe Bowler" that is different. Not everyone buys a new ball the day they come out. However when a pro shop reviews a ball, many times it is done either before or early in the new ball's release. A customer might buy a new ball 4-6 months after it's release and post his review on it. But pro shops usually like to post early, it helps sell the ball.
MC nice to talk to you. People like Nothing, are just that, nothing.
have a good day
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Post by: NJStroker on September 22, 2008, 05:02:47 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.
Post by: jls on September 22, 2008, 06:37:27 PM
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hey jls, the reason they get the track stuff early is because the owner of the shop WORKS FOR TRACK
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.
I know, I know, And that is why I took exception over that " overlooked "
comment he made. To me that was a dig. Yes he wrote a nice review, but then made it look like no one on earth ever heard of Global.
And if one should go back and read some of their reviews from last year on some Track balls, one would see, much like Kramer, "they were way off"
So please excuse me if I don't think they are the gospel according to Luke. Just ask some pro shops who still have Rising's sitting on their shelf collecting dust.
Just talked to a major dist. sales rep. The Uprising is not doing well!!!
Why, kinda sorta thinking it has a lot to do with some recommended drillings that were used on the Rising. That left a bad taste in many pro shops mouths.
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Edited on 9/23/2008 12:28 PM
Post by: NJStroker on September 22, 2008, 06:54:33 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to think that TRACK sucks. And its even funnier when im carrying with my TRACK ball and they're going flat ten with their OTHER BRANDS ball.
Post by: Sjf on September 22, 2008, 08:22:41 PM
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Personally, I don't put much belief or confidence in any of Scoot's posts, much less a review of his. He can't seem to think for himself so he piggybacks on other peoples post, saying that is what he said, which most of the time is arbitrary to his original post. I am sure he means well but his reviews are all biased and he rates them all 9.7 + most of the time. I don't think he represents Track and who ever that is on staff that he works with very well. He doesn't seem to have the knowledge or expertise to be giving the advice he has given since I started lurking on here. Hell I saw him argue with a Brunswick rep who has been on staff longer than this kid has probably been alive. Just my opinion and it may sound cruel and blunt, but I think it needed to be addressed. He just doesn't have the smarts or the qualifications to be giving out the advice or reviews he has given.
Pocketking
If i did know better, I would have thought JLS wrote this. Biased, I like that. I think you hit the hammer on the nail with that line. I think what JLS was trying to say. These guys talk up Track, yet come on and give a review here, then toss in that remark, "overlooked" to make it look like Global is not selling well, when the truth is, Track's sales in our area are slow. Global is doing just fine.
And like JLS said, they painted the Rising as the next coming of the big guy. There was much debate on the drilling and pins and top weight on the Rising. This pro shop went all out and said they would work. But many bowlers in our area were disappointed in the performance of the ball in oil, ok on the dry.
So I agree with this post. I don't put much into what they have to say either.
JLS posted that if a customer wrote a review 6-9 months later, he has no problem with that. For most customer's don't always buy the ball the first day it is released. However, pro shops usually try to post a review very early in the release of a ball. I thought it was odd to see a pro shop review a ball so late. And then of course toss in "overlooked"
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Post by: Sjf on September 22, 2008, 08:24:00 PM
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Personally, I don't put much belief or confidence in any of Scoot's posts, much less a review of his. He can't seem to think for himself so he piggybacks on other peoples post, saying that is what he said, which most of the time is arbitrary to his original post. I am sure he means well but his reviews are all biased and he rates them all 9.7 + most of the time. I don't think he represents Track and who ever that is on staff that he works with very well. He doesn't seem to have the knowledge or expertise to be giving the advice he has given since I started lurking on here. Hell I saw him argue with a Brunswick rep who has been on staff longer than this kid has probably been alive. Just my opinion and it may sound cruel and blunt, but I think it needed to be addressed. He just doesn't have the smarts or the qualifications to be giving out the advice or reviews he has given.
Pocketking, I hope your post does not get deleted. I noticed that a couple that were negative did.
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on September 23, 2008, 01:21:43 AM
To say that the word overlooked the way I said it was a dig is wrong. The fact is, I used it based off what I see in my area and in my area it is overlooked when I am talking about the overall ball sales in my area. Last year in my area, the balls that sold were Cherry vibes. Mostly becasue we have a hammer staffer who everyone knows and they ask him what they should get. Last year he said cherry vibe, so everyone he told got one. Outside of the people who got 900 stuff from our shop last year, nobody els knew about them until three of them did well after getting them. Then after that I seen one other guy get a 900 ball. If you ask me that blew because I like the 900 stuff.
As for being bias to a company. Well as a bowler I am for myself only, when someone comes into the shop and asks me for a good ball, I dont point to one ball and say here is what you want. I give them options from every company that has a ball in the price point with the look on the lane they want. For myself I am because like I said even though I work in a shop, it doesnt mean I can just grab a ball off the wall or out the back and drill it. I have still have to pay for the ball, and I have more important things to pay for then a ball. However when I get that extra money I do tend to set it aside for something.
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C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
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