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Title: BTM Aug issue
Post by: newguy on July 29, 2009, 08:13:23 AM
Just looked through the BTM August issue and on the 2009 at-a-glance page I noticed an interesting pattern. Just wondering if anyone else picked up on it.
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: Doug Sterner on July 29, 2009, 05:00:19 PM
Didn't get my issue yet but I will take a look when it arrives!!!!
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: tenpin on July 29, 2009, 05:57:39 PM
I know what it is.  There are reviews of bowling balls in there.  Do I get a prize......
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: vilecanards on July 30, 2009, 01:07:07 AM
.... a lot of 4000 abralon finishes?

Edited on 7/30/2009 1:07 AM
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: lefty50 on July 30, 2009, 03:49:56 AM
Nobody wants to call the balls particle anymore, not a single one, but I doubt that's it... I don't see anything else... Argh!
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: charlest on July 30, 2009, 08:52:13 AM
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.... a lot of 4000 abralon finishes?

Edited on 7/30/2009 1:07 AM


Yes!
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: Skip H on July 30, 2009, 02:19:14 PM
Thanks Phil.  It normally drives me nuts waiting for the next issue to show up in my mailbox but now you really have me on edge.
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: JS on July 31, 2009, 08:51:42 AM
That 11 out of the 18 High Performance balls are asymmetrical.
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: jimensminger on July 31, 2009, 12:12:09 PM
that a lot of really good looking balls come out just before league starts,..?
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: Urethane Game on July 31, 2009, 01:19:42 PM
I've looked a couple of times.  The only thing I noticed was that most of the high performance balls had similar length/backend reactions despite having different hook ratings.

I really don't think BTM's ball reviews are worth reading anymore.
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: rctc286 on July 31, 2009, 01:42:44 PM
Its not to bad, I use it more for info on balls and compare it what I have now.  So I dont get the same kinda of ball.
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: Urethane Game on August 05, 2009, 10:54:27 AM
Just curious newguy... What pattern is it that you see?
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: J_w73 on August 05, 2009, 12:29:31 PM
?????
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: BenD on August 05, 2009, 12:34:24 PM
Was anybody suprised on the review for the Clutch?
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: Raven829 on August 05, 2009, 12:42:31 PM
The only thing that stuck out at me was that they finally gave a 17 backend rating to a couple balls.  I think the max they had ever reviewed a ball for previously was 16.5 but I could certainly be wrong.

Don
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: J_w73 on August 05, 2009, 12:50:26 PM
That's not it

Rotogrip   Epic Odyssey  17.5
Hammer   No Mercy              17.5
Hammer   No Mercy Beat'n       17.5
Track   Kinetic               17.0

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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: Doug Sterner on August 05, 2009, 04:51:18 PM
I see a few things now that I have gone thru my issue...

#1...there are a lot of balls coming thru with 2000 and 4000 grit Abralon finishes

#2...I am seeing the high end balls are slated mostly for oil. The midpriced balls are more suited for medium conditions and the lower priced balls are geared mostly for lighter conditions.

#3...The Bounty Hunter is a tremendous ball on all but the lightest of oil.
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: charlest on August 05, 2009, 08:16:17 PM
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The only thing that stuck out at me was that they finally gave a 17 backend rating to a couple balls.  I think the max they had ever reviewed a ball for previously was 16.5 but I could certainly be wrong.

Don
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FOr whatever it's worth, I think the Track Kinetic & the RG Odyssey had a 17 for the backend.
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Edited on 8/5/2009 8:17 PM
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: The Bowlers Edge 2 on August 06, 2009, 06:43:28 PM
Phil must be on vacation. Seven days and no response stating what he noticed.
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: Ric Clint on August 11, 2009, 10:51:37 AM
Anybody figured out yet what Phil is talking about?


Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: newguy on August 11, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
quote:
Just looked through the BTM August issue and on the 2009 at-a-glance page I noticed an interesting pattern. Just wondering if anyone else picked up on it.


I wish I were on vacation, was doing the Trade show route. Just to let you know, I got a PM with the correct answer. SkipH knows the answer. Maybe he will tell you what he noticed.
Thanks
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: newguy on August 11, 2009, 03:03:49 PM
why the comment? but thank you anyway.
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: Urethane Game on August 11, 2009, 03:12:48 PM
Just added lefty and his 2 revs to ignore.
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: beachcomberjones on August 11, 2009, 03:13:19 PM
oh! oh wow this thread got touchy quick?!?!
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: newguy on August 11, 2009, 03:26:48 PM
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why the comment? but thank you anyway.


I've been checking in on this thread since it was posted hoping to find out the answer.  It's bad enough you don't say anything for almost two weeks, but when you finally do show up you just say somebody else knows and if we're lucky he might tell us?

In my book, that's being a class "A" asshole.


Very classless response. I have been on the road for 2 weeks thank you.If you don't like the game we are playing take your ball and go home. No one else seems to mind. Let SkipH post the answer and get the accolades or if you can read look it up yourself. They really don't use big words.
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: DukeHarding on August 11, 2009, 03:28:25 PM
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Just looked through the BTM August issue and on the 2009 at-a-glance page I noticed an interesting pattern. Just wondering if anyone else picked up on it.


I wish I were on vacation, was doing the Trade show route. Just to let you know, I got a PM with the correct answer. SkipH knows the answer. Maybe he will tell you what he noticed.
Thanks


What an asshole!


Nice...
Talk about being an...asshole!
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: newguy on August 11, 2009, 03:28:56 PM
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Okay, okay...I guess I went a little to far for the sensitive types.  

When I'm sitting around with my friends, we don't hesitate to call each other even more colorful names when we're giving each other a hard time.

Feel free to tell me to go outside and play hide and go fuck myself...I won't cry...I promise.


Didn't see your response before I sent mine. So whatever you said is better than what I wrote.
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: kidlost2000 on August 11, 2009, 03:52:42 PM
I'm guessing the answer is no one really reads BTM, they just look at the pics and set it aside.




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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: vilecanards on August 11, 2009, 04:38:11 PM
I am still curious as to the answer to the question also... and what happened to the original replies, anyway?

Edited on 8/11/2009 4:40 PM

Edited on 8/11/2009 4:40 PM
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: Motiv Girl on August 11, 2009, 07:28:41 PM
That in the High RG column, they are not taking all the numbers to the hundredth
only to the tenth.
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: Skip H on August 11, 2009, 10:30:18 PM
Thanks Phil for the credit but you're the guy responsible for the result.  

The answer is just that 900 Global is pouring the strongest hooking balls on the market.  In the high performance category in the "At-A-Glance" Ball comparison 900 Global pours not only the Bounty Hunter but also the Elite Red Alien and the Lane #1 Dynamo.  Those are the only High Performance balls with a hook rating of 54 or 53.  In the Mid-Price category an AMF Clutch is one of only two balls rated with a 53.  

This shouldn't come as a huge surprise with prior releases such as the original Bounty and the Mega Friction already on 900 Global's resume.

Oh, and if the Seismic Requiem were listed I understand it would be up at the top of the list as well.

Edited on 8/11/2009 11:00 PM
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: surface_solutions on August 12, 2009, 05:08:11 AM
Kudos to 900 for pouring some of the strongest balls on market today, but we have to admit what is making them even better or the underlying truth is they not only have some of the most hooking balls but some of the most versatile.

Other companies seems to be covering a broad spectrum of styles with countless numbers of balls.  Global still only has a select few and they are able to market to everyone and all kinds of styles.

What I really love is the fact that with everybody wanting to curve the ball these days the last to pro staffers are a couple of the straightest players in the game.

We should take a look at the pattern in our bowling centers in the last 18 months and see what is going on...Consistent ball reactions with high quality products, and top notch customer service to boot.

If there was ever such an award for company of the year I vote 900 Global the winner.  HANDS DOWN!
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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: leftyinsnellville on August 12, 2009, 06:57:30 AM
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Okay, okay...I guess I went a little to far for the sensitive types.  

When I'm sitting around with my friends, we don't hesitate to call each other even more colorful names when we're giving each other a hard time.

Feel free to tell me to go outside and play hide and go fuck myself...I won't cry...I promise.


Didn't see your response before I sent mine. So whatever you said is better than what I wrote.


Sorry man, I was having a bad day and acted like a jerk.  I deleted the offending posts as best I could.  It won't happen again.  My sincerest apology to you for being such a putz.

Lefty (a/k/a Steve Power)
Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: LaneHammer20 on August 12, 2009, 08:00:20 AM
Yes, I feel the same way. It seems that even though you get one of their strong oil balls, and expect to not be able to use it ever. You can still find it very usable for less oil conditions with a little lesss surface or at OOB.

And as far as performance. I have bowled with basically all companies and 900 global make the best performing and most consistent pieces I ahve thrown. They carry better in my eyes than the others, and they last longer. The only comapny i feel are in the same ball park is Legends/Lanemasters, they are bowling balls I will carry alongside my 900/AMF arsenal.

People that regret trying this comapny are missing out BIG time.




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Strongest? Yes.

Also the easiest to tone down if needed? Yes.

This stuff is easily the best I've ever thrown. Someone asked me tonight what makes the Global stuff last longer than most other balls. I thought about it for a second, threw 8 in a row and worked out that it might be because you get to throw less shots with them in a game

What amazes me, is that they don't treat midperformance balls at a second level to their high performance releases. Yes usually they are a step down overall as far as hook is concerned, but the same strong hit and consistency between each shot is there throughout the entire range, not just in the high performance stuff.



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Title: Re: BTM Aug issue
Post by: RyanRPS on August 13, 2009, 05:38:27 PM
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Oh, and if the Seismic Requiem were listed I understand it would be up at the top of the list as well.



You may get to see the Requiem reviewed in the next issue, along with the Epicenter...

Ryan