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Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« on: October 07, 2018, 12:32:59 PM »
Hey everyone, I'm looking for a ball that's similar to the Inception Pearl - Inception DCT Pearl, Tactical Ops, or Honey Badger?
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2018, 01:20:33 PM »
Hey everyone, I'm looking for a ball that's similar to the Inception Pearl - Inception DCT Pearl, Tactical Ops, or Honey Badger?

Well, the DCT isn't going to be it, as it's not going to boomerang off of the friction. Tactical Ops might be the closest we have in the line. If you're using it on house shots, HB is going to be similar in board coverage, but you will see the difference on something more challenging.
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2018, 01:28:40 PM »
You know, after thinking about it, why not a Dream On with polish? That's gonna be really close.
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2018, 01:42:36 PM »
Thanks for the input, Dr. Doom.

I'm looking to put a super condition-specific layout on a backend-y ball (something like 70 x 5 x 15). The idea here is to have a ball to go to if/when I need to open up the lane (think later in a tournament, basically). Does a Dream On have lots of built-in backend?
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2018, 02:38:13 PM »
My Dream On at 70*5*40 may be one of the fastest balls off the spot I've ever seen. My Dream (og) was actually too fast for me, but the On I can stand on it (as much as I can, anyways) and cover the lane. In fact, the more left to right I get with it, the better. That layout may be interesting to see on a HB, since it's got a lower intermediate diff and would round the corner better and not be so forward.

I don't think the Tactical would work as well as you would like. The Break core would just be too forward imo
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2018, 02:56:44 PM »
Alright, that's good to know. The HB would be bananas with a boomerang layout.

Have you thrown the Continuum? I'm not interested in this ball, but I am interested to know what the core does. If it's a quick response core, I'd be intrigued to wait for a pearl cover on that core.
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2018, 02:59:59 PM »
Alright, that's good to know. The HB would be bananas with a boomerang layout.

Have you thrown the Continuum? I'm not interested in this ball, but I am interested to know what the core does. If it's a quick response core, I'd be intrigued to wait for a pearl cover on that core.

I haven't put holes in mine yet, just changed jobs and need to get stable. But from what I've heard, it's the Dream On on steroids. At first I didn't know if I wanted one, but now I totally do.
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2018, 03:34:32 PM »
Alright, that's good to know. The HB would be bananas with a boomerang layout.

Have you thrown the Continuum? I'm not interested in this ball, but I am interested to know what the core does. If it's a quick response core, I'd be intrigued to wait for a pearl cover on that core.

I haven't put holes in mine yet, just changed jobs and need to get stable. But from what I've heard, it's the Dream On on steroids. At first I didn't know if I wanted one, but now I totally do.

Good luck on your new job! Congrats to you, and I understand it'll take a bit for you to punch holes into one.

The one Continuum I saw around here looked less than stellar. But, it's hard to judge a ball by one person with one layout.

Does the DCT Pearl have that much more aggressive a cover than the OG Inception Pearl?
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2018, 03:39:01 PM »
S74 vs S86. Yeah, it's a bit of a difference. The pearl doesn't even look like a pearl type reaction. Just really strong in the oil for a pearl.
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2018, 08:37:35 PM »
I want an EON!!!
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2018, 09:27:08 AM »
The Eon has treated me VERY well. The initial shine on it made the ball wiggly, but after a few games, the ball has become basically old faithful. I've used it on many a-house shots, and sport patterns ranging from 37' to 45' in length - it's basically a more versatile Marvel Pearl.

To the S74 vs. S86 idea - how exactly does the naming convention work (both in name, and in number)? For example, I've seen S74R, S51, S71, the Eon is like S82RX. What do these names mean? Also, for the numbers, is S60 to S70 the same different as S70 to S80?
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2018, 09:57:24 AM »
1. I can see the Marvel Pearl reference being accurate. Glad to know it looks better with the shine knocked off.

2. Each number has it's own characteristics. The letters added on at the end, I'm guessing marketing. I find there to be a bigger jump from 70 to 80 in terms of smoothness than from 60 to 70. 70 used to be STRONG, but now it's almost benchmark. I had suspected that when the Eagles came out, they tweaked the chemical makeup because it just didn't feel like the old S70. The S74 cover is now our upper mid-range cover. Gets downlane easier than the covers on the DCTs, Eon and Contiuum, with more response off the friction. You're not going to get a boomerang look from the DCTs, Eon, Contiuum, or anything else with a cover above S80. Sumo might be a bit snappy, but it's still going to dig in. When I need a ball to slow down fast, I'm using a DCT with surface, a Contiuum, a Sumo with like 2000 grit. Once I burn up a spot, then it's time to bounce off the track I've created with a HB, tactical, On, whatever.
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Re: Closest Ball to the Inception Pearl
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2018, 11:59:58 AM »
I emailed Global about the coverstock names and letters, and here are their responses:

Q1: What exactly do the numbers mean?
A1: It refers to the friction of the coverstock, stronger higher numbered covers will see friction earlier. The point here between marketing and engineering was allowing our customers to have a reference point between the shell strengths on different balls. We felt this could better be conveyed through a numeric rating system, rather than names.

Q2: Are the numbers linear?
A2: No they are not. The system has been in place since 2007, and shell technology continues to evolve every year. The testing we do today using SPECTO™ is far more detailed than we were able to do in 2007 when we opened our doors. So we are better able to gather data and read friction with a numeric system. The message is the same as far as friction and less than or greater than, they are just not linear to the absolute degree.


Q3: What do the letters at the end denote.
A3: R is for “Responsive” it was first used on the Respect Pearl when testers wanted to be able to better quantify how it read the friction. Testing showed it read the surface quicker than other coverstocks with the same hook potential. The RX is the same testers wanted to indicate a different type of roll characteristic off the friction. 
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